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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-22-11 09:13 AM Original message |
Poll question: Will you still support President Obama if he raises the retirement age? |
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here_is_to_hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-22-11 09:19 AM Response to Original message |
1. Morning Dawgs... |
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lisa58 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-22-11 09:20 AM Response to Original message |
2. We're already raising our own retirement age... |
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barbiegeek (844 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-22-11 09:59 AM Response to Reply #2 |
9. SS is not sustainable w/ our longer life spans |
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msongs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-22-11 11:08 AM Response to Reply #9 |
14. it is completely sustainable. just cut the welfare parasite military budget by 50% nt |
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barbiegeek (844 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-22-11 11:22 AM Response to Reply #14 |
15. I know your RIGHT, the pessimist in me thinks that will never happen though |
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golfguru (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 12:45 PM Response to Reply #14 |
23. The unfunded liabilities for Medicare, Medicaid & SS are much |
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amandabeech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-11 09:53 PM Response to Reply #23 |
70. Social security can be fixed. |
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jtown1123 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-11 01:30 PM Response to Reply #9 |
52. Raise the cap. Cuts are completely UNNECESSARY. |
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Doctor_J (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-11 07:57 PM Response to Reply #9 |
69. Thanks for that Hate Radio talking point |
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Honeycombe8 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 01:50 AM Response to Reply #69 |
74. Actually, we've known for decades that this was coming. Are you younger than 30, maybe? |
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Doctor_J (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 03:13 PM Response to Reply #74 |
82. And it has worked just fine for 70 years, and will continue to |
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LongTomH (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 03:30 PM Response to Reply #9 |
84. Life expectancy in the US is not rising that much! |
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texshelters (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 03:46 PM Response to Reply #2 |
86. great point |
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dipsydoodle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-22-11 09:22 AM Response to Original message |
3. There is a degree of inevitability |
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Ozymanithrax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-22-11 09:27 AM Response to Original message |
4. Not a one issue type of person... |
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chelsea0011 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-22-11 09:32 AM Response to Original message |
5. I support raising the retirement age as long as there is still the ability to retire |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-11 01:27 PM Response to Reply #5 |
50. I "could" have worked past age 65 but all of the over 60 staff were being systematically |
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elocs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-22-11 09:42 AM Response to Original message |
6. What kind of Democratic sheep would bleatingly vote: "Yes. He knows best."? |
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earthside (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-22-11 10:04 AM Response to Reply #6 |
10. Not just about the money. |
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Supersedeas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 06:57 PM Response to Reply #10 |
41. graat point...but it appears that we are being primed for more compromise |
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great white snark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-22-11 10:56 AM Response to Reply #6 |
12. Not surprisingly, it's the only "yes" answer. nt |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 05:02 PM Response to Reply #12 |
30. Actually, Other could also be a "yes" answer. |
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golfguru (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 06:24 PM Response to Reply #6 |
37. He has a degree from Harvard |
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elocs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 07:43 PM Response to Reply #37 |
43. Well I guess we all better just shut up then and not ask questions or have doubts. |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-11 01:41 PM Response to Reply #43 |
58. well, one thing we learned from BUsh |
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Autumn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-11 12:48 PM Response to Reply #37 |
48. Didn't Bush have one from Yale? |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 01:51 AM Response to Reply #37 |
75. Bush had a Yale certificate. |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 03:17 PM Response to Reply #37 |
83. Oh man, I sure hope that's sarcasm. |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-11 01:38 PM Response to Reply #6 |
56. yeah, that option was meant to insult Obama supporters. |
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Rosa Luxemburg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-22-11 09:52 AM Response to Original message |
7. he must veto it |
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femmocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-22-11 09:58 AM Response to Original message |
8. He lost me on the tax cut for billionaires. |
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populistdriven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-22-11 10:25 AM Response to Reply #8 |
11. +1 |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 06:45 PM Response to Reply #8 |
39. Assuming you're going to get a tax cut, too, |
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quakerboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 02:17 AM Response to Reply #39 |
76. How exactly would one go about |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-11 01:43 PM Response to Reply #8 |
59. yeah, like you i wish he would have let those unemployeed go without |
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woo me with science (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 01:42 AM Response to Reply #8 |
73. He lost me on the tax cuts for the rich, defending TSA crotch searches |
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Davis_X_Machina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-22-11 11:06 AM Response to Original message |
13. He can't. Congress can. N/t |
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Autumn Colors (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-22-11 11:24 AM Response to Original message |
16. Other |
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hollowdweller (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-22-11 11:31 AM Response to Original message |
17. More people will just file for Soc Sec Disability earlier |
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The Velveteen Ocelot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-22-11 11:40 AM Response to Original message |
18. He can't raise the retirement age. Only Congress can do that. |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 11:10 AM Response to Reply #18 |
19. If he fails to veto and/or engineers such behind the scenes then he owns it. |
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jtown1123 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-11 01:36 PM Response to Reply #18 |
53. he can do a deal like the tax cut one where House &Senate Dems will fall in line |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-11 01:43 PM Response to Reply #53 |
60. i guess they better stand up and act before that happens then eh? |
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Red State Rebel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 12:26 PM Response to Original message |
20. I'm almost 54, the countdown is on! I don't want it messed with. |
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bmbmd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 05:08 PM Response to Reply #20 |
35. Just turned 56 |
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golfguru (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 06:27 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. Retire early |
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HeroTwins (195 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 12:38 PM Response to Original message |
21. Hey Dawgs, take a gander at the NY Times. Obama's not cutting Social Security. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 12:40 PM Response to Reply #21 |
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HeroTwins (195 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 01:00 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. I don't know why, but that struck me as hilarious. |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 01:06 PM Response to Reply #22 |
27. i thoughtt hey served that kindof pie... |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 05:03 PM Response to Reply #21 |
31. "Push poll" wouldn't have an other option. n/t. |
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jtown1123 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-11 01:37 PM Response to Reply #21 |
54. Obama has never said he is against cuts. What article are you referring to? |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 12:49 PM Response to Original message |
24. Will you still support President Obama... |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 05:07 PM Response to Reply #24 |
34. Did he start a commission on making puppy and kitten jamalya? |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 05:57 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. Well, neither the Jambalaya commission nor the defect commission... |
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quakerboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 02:21 AM Response to Reply #36 |
77. And yet the people that the president appointed to lead |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 01:05 PM Response to Original message |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 05:06 PM Response to Reply #26 |
33. Yes, it does... |
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FormerDittoHead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 01:31 PM Response to Original message |
28. If Palin is running 2012 he could abolish Social Security and I'd still support him. |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-11 01:45 PM Response to Reply #28 |
61. yup, not supporting Obama IS support for Palin |
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Unvanguard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 01:38 PM Response to Original message |
29. In the sense of "vote for, and encourage others to vote for", of course. |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 05:05 PM Response to Original message |
32. Haha... |
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Donald Ian Rankin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 06:50 PM Response to Original message |
40. ...now there's a stupidly loaded set of poll answers. |
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silverweb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 02:52 AM Response to Reply #40 |
78. +100 |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 07:11 PM Response to Original message |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 07:58 PM Response to Original message |
44. If, for example, he raises it by 2 years starting in the year 2075, yes. n/t |
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jtown1123 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-11 01:37 PM Response to Reply #44 |
55. So basically you are screwing over my generation. Nice. |
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namahage (678 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-11 07:24 PM Response to Reply #55 |
66. How old are you? |
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quiller4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-11 01:54 AM Response to Original message |
45. Yes. I support a gradual increase in the full retirement age |
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jtown1123 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-11 01:39 PM Response to Reply #45 |
57. Where are the jobs for seniors? How on earth do you expect |
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RoadRage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-11 06:28 PM Response to Original message |
46. I'm 30 years old.... |
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JoePhilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-11 01:21 PM Response to Reply #46 |
49. I felt the same back in the 80s when the raised the age. |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-11 01:29 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. geez, I hope your 401k doesn't suffer in the meantime... |
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JoePhilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-11 01:55 PM Response to Reply #51 |
62. Thanks ... mine is doing quite well ... and .. |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-11 02:10 PM Response to Reply #62 |
63. I agree. I am retired, and while I have growth in my investments, I am not buying |
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JoePhilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-11 05:57 PM Response to Reply #63 |
64. Years ago, I helped my mother take her pension and set it up ... |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-11 07:52 PM Response to Reply #64 |
68. Of course not, but what is the alternative if they don't have a pension or investments? |
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JoePhilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 02:53 PM Response to Reply #68 |
80. I think that those who are young, regardless of income, need to ... |
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RoadRage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 03:44 PM Response to Reply #80 |
85. Yup.. this is exactly what I am doing.. |
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JoePhilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 04:23 PM Response to Reply #85 |
89. So true ... |
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Jennicut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 08:45 AM Response to Reply #46 |
79. I am 35 and my husband and I and really most in my generation don't expect it to be around for us. |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-11 06:38 PM Response to Original message |
47. Other: Moot point, he is not going to do it n/t |
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baldguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-11 07:10 PM Response to Original message |
65. What should be raised is the payroll deduction cap. |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-11 07:37 PM Response to Original message |
67. What do you mean "still"? |
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Teaser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-11 09:59 PM Response to Reply #67 |
71. boring |
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burrowowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-11 11:36 PM Response to Original message |
72. Support |
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impik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 03:12 PM Response to Original message |
81. This pathetic thread is still here? |
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thelordofhell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 03:50 PM Response to Original message |
87. Other......as in |
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rko_24550 (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 04:02 PM Response to Original message |
88. NO |
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