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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 04:08 PM
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Obama proposes increased defense spending
http://wsws.org/articles/2011/jan2011/defe-j11.shtml


Obama proposes increased defense spending
By Tom Eley
11 January 2011


Last week US Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates unveiled a multiyear military budget proposal that would increase spending in 2011 by 1 percent, to $553 billion, and that would outstrip inflation each year until 2015 and 2016, when it would ostensibly be held flat.

Presented in the media as “frugal” and an “austerity” budget, the proposal would actually maintain military spending in real terms at all-time post-World War II highs.

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Nor did Gates’ plan include a separate $120 billion request to fund the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq for another year that will bring the overall defense budget to $773 billion. The “contingency funding” request, reported by Politico, was made in a closed-door meeting with top Congressional leaders last week. The new figure is more than double the amount projected by the Obama administration last year, when it estimated that only $50 billion would be needed.

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Among other spending increases, the budget proposal would expand the deployment of unmanned remote-controlled drones that have inflicted heavy civilian casualties in the Afghanistan-Pakistan border region, modernize the Army’s tanks, and provide new ships and jets for the Navy.

Read more...http://wsws.org/articles/2011/jan2011/defe-j11.shtml

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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 04:20 PM
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3. I guess 547,600,000,000 just couldn't cut it. What's a man of the people to do?
Edited on Tue Jan-11-11 04:21 PM by valerief
:grr:
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 04:21 PM
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4. shrug -- nothing to be done about it at this point.
he is what he is.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 04:44 PM
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5. Ridiculous spin
Edited on Tue Jan-11-11 04:46 PM by ProSense
How does one take a 1 percent increase that is actually less than the projection in a massive budget and claim that it's significant?

Presented in the media as “frugal” and an “austerity” budget, the proposal would actually maintain military spending in real terms at all-time post-World War II highs.


Yeah, it's not like it matters that the country is involved in two wars that need to be drawn down. Anyone think moving out of Iraq by the end of the year and initiating withdrawal from Afghanistan aren't going to come at a cost?

There are cuts being made to the defense budget, but none will be more significant than the cuts that come with ending the wars.


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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 04:47 PM
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6. Based on the title, you would think it was going up 10, 20 or 30%
1% ... really?
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 04:51 PM
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7. linked to World Socialist Website
that explains a lot
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 02:13 AM
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20. We won't be out of Iraq at the end of the year...
and will never leave Afghanistan.
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Union Scribe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 04:53 AM
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21. Aww, that's cute.
"Wars cost money! I mean, uh, ending them costs money!" Lol.
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stevenleser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 08:19 AM
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25. Yep, wsws.org makes hyperbole into an art form.
When you parse their articles that are critical of Democrats, you realize pretty quickly in almost all cases that there is no 'there' there.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 04:55 PM
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8. WSWS? Hahaha.... Reads more like an Onion piece.
Anyway, I'll wait for Pravda, Venezuela Analysis, and Iran's Press TV to chime in before jumping to any conclusions.
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 04:58 PM
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9. What's wrong with WSWS?
It's a great left-leaning website.

I think there are a lot of informative articles there touching on topics the MSM won't discuss.
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 05:07 PM
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10. How is Obama proposing the increase on Defense spending
a subject from the left leaning site when as you know majority on the left DO NOT want an
increase in defense spending.

Keywords are (left-leaning) does not mean they are the left, they could be right middle of the
left too.
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 05:38 PM
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12. I'm not sure what you're trying to say.
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 05:43 PM
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13. I'm saying it not a good idea
it's not something the left wants, increasing defense spending is something the left is against.
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 05:53 PM
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14. I agree
Increasing defense spending or even maintaining current defense spending is really stupid.

We need to spend our money wisely rather than waste it on the military and pointless wars in foreign lands that most Americans can't even pronounce.
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stevenleser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 08:15 AM
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24. A lot and this article is a good example of how much is wrong with them.
Edited on Wed Jan-12-11 08:16 AM by stevenleser
They are to the left what Free Republic is to the right.

They make a big deal about increases in defense spending, then you read the details and realise they are full of crap. It's at best a minute increase that they say is more than inflation, but a 1% increase is not one that I would put out there as "more than inflation". Inflation usually is 2-3% per year. If this increase in spending actually outpaces inflation, it will only be because we are in a stagnant economy. Even then, it will "outpace" inflation by the smallest of margins.

They have taken what is a non-event and a non-story and have sensationalized it to try to make it seem like important news.

Everyone who read this article is now dumber for the experience.

Unrec.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 05:22 PM
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11. The Military-Industrial-Fascist Complex need their blood money. Fuck them.
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 07:45 PM
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15. Mr. President, how many wrong decisions can a leader make in
six months?
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 10:13 PM
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16. It's so comforting to know we have no pressing domestic issues to spend that money on. Rec'd. n/t
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 11:35 PM
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17. It's amazing how the politicians in Washington are unwilling to cut our astronomical defense budget
But cuts to social services and programs are always on the table.
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tomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 06:32 AM
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22. i, for one, wish they would stop calling it defense....
.....when it is clearly offense. one ought to call a thing by it's right name.
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Ter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 01:26 AM
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18. Rand Paul is better on this issue than Obama
Wow.
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 02:12 AM
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19. of course...
I wonder what will happen to social services :sarcasm:
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trayNTP Donating Member (108 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 07:40 AM
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23. As expected
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