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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 11:39 PM
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http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/12/13/obama-giv... /

So what grade does President Obama give himself after nearly a year in office?

A good solid B-plus, he said, answering a question from Oprah Winfrey during a television special that aired on Sunday evening.

Mr. Obama said that he inherited the biggest set of challenges of any president since Franklin Delano Roosevelt, but he ticked through a list of items that he called accomplishments: stabilizing the economy, withdrawing troops from Iraq, settling on the best possible plan in Afghanistan, improving Americas image around the world and finding international consensus on disabling nuclear weapons in Iran and North Korea.

And, he said, the goal of overhauling health care is moving closer to reality.

So what would make the year better?

If I get health care signed, we tip into A-minus, Mr. Obama said.
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mikita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 11:42 PM
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1. not in my book....n/t
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 11:42 PM
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2. You gave him an A too?
We rock!

:toast:
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 11:44 PM
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3. Bwhaha! Me, too!
:toast:
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mikita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 11:45 PM
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4. so funny I forgot to laugh....
rock on
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 11:50 PM
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12. time to cut you off, DI!
:)

I wouldn't have answered such a question.

With all the new jobless people out there, families suffering horribly to feed and clothe their kids, and thousands and thousands dying needlessly because of a lack of being given proper health care does not allow a B+ in my book. More like C because of some success with what he mentioned.

And I guess he only takes off a half grade for continuing the Patriot Act, doing little on advancing rights causes for GLBT who deserve full equality, and cozying up a bit too much with the people who got us into the financial disaster to begin with. There's plenty more negatives, but I still give him a passing grade, which I'm sure will be attacked by some as being ridiculously low, I think there's a dozen more unfortunate decisions that could easily be tacked onto why it's been a bumpy year. Giving yourself a B+ though despite the mounting jobless claims knowing people are suffering is a bit of a reach...
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 12:43 AM
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53. Nice Username. eom
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 11:55 PM
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18. Yeah, I'd have given him an A- as well
You're alright! :hug:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 12:06 AM
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 08:41 AM
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73. Me either...
Solid A.
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 11:46 PM
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5. He walked into the single shittiest set of conditions since FDR. Easily a Solid B+
Edited on Sun Dec-13-09 11:47 PM by NYC_SKP
I'd score him higher.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 11:46 PM
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6. It's amazing the turn around that's
happening in our country now and thankfully I hang out with people who do appreciate what we have.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 11:57 PM
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21. yes, things are going swimmingly
CEO paychecks are higher than ever, and, the number of people filing claims for state unemployment benefits rose by 17,000 to a seasonally adjusted 474,000, while the total number of people claiming benefits of any kind topped 10 million, a sign of very sluggish hiring, the Labor Department reported.

And that's not including all the other things that are troubling (like the Patriot Act invasions, lack of progress on GLBT rights, Afghanistan War's 5 additional years or more, etc)
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rollingrock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 11:46 PM
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7. Talk about audacity
or is it hubris?
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 11:48 PM
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8. You? Or the President?
:shrug:
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rollingrock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 11:50 PM
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14. This thread
isn't about me...though, I'm sure Goldman Sachs and AIG would give him an A+.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 11:58 PM
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24. +1!
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 11:54 PM
Response to Reply #8
17. You don't need to play confused.
Unless you really are confused... ha.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 12:06 AM
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28. Pres Obama actually stated what has been accomplished..
all you have are cheap shots over the internet.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 12:06 AM
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29. Uppity?
:shrug:
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rollingrock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 01:07 AM
Response to Reply #29
66. Playing the race card?
what a cheap shot.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 08:42 AM
Response to Reply #66
74. Cheap shot -- as was your original post in this thread.
Stop whining.
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 11:48 PM
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9. A solid A from me for carrying a thousand pound sack of shit left by GWB and friends
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 11:49 PM
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10. +1! A sack of shit indeed! n/t
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 11:58 PM
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22. That's just it
He's carrying that sack of shit when he should have dumped it out.

No, Obama, you get a C- grade. I could have done what you have done so far, and done more. Except I would have troops pouring out of Iraq, none going into to Afghanistan and Cheney would be all lawyered up and sweating his balls off.

You could have easily done that and more. C- at best.
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 12:22 AM
Response to Reply #22
39. YOU could have? Then why in the hell are you posting here?
Go get some shit done!
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 12:25 AM
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41. Obama has failed
Don't blame me, he's the president. Do you disagree with what I would have done?

Why are you posting here? Just to sling shit and say you've done something?
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 12:30 AM
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45. What are you even talking about? Obama has failed at
what? Because you aren't satisfied? I don't think he's failed and if you do, go do something about it! Go figure out who you're supporting in 2012. Go run yourself since you are so capable. I don't play the argue game with people who are hell bent on pissing on any and everything Obama. You're the one slinging shit about what YOU could have accomplished. I encouraged you to get started if it's so easy. There are lots of folks here who think like you do, go talk to them.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 12:34 AM
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47. Go fly a kite
If you can't take me criticizing the president maybe you have a failure of your own faith?

You like that Cheney is still free? That many thousands of innocents around the world still live in fear of what the US military is going to do to them and their families?

You like that shit? You think that is a success? That sucks, and you know it. You aren't stupid. Don't be fooled.
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 12:38 AM
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51. Maybe in your delusional state you forgot that you responded to
my post with a list of things you could easily accomplish. I encouraged you to get started and stop wasting your time posting here if you're that powerful....now you want to argue over whether I can take your criticism of the president.

Let me help you.

I could care less about your thoughts on this subject.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 12:43 AM
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54. Ya know
We criticized bush for a lot of the same shit.

If you could care less, go fly a kite!
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lewiston Donating Member (86 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 09:08 AM
Response to Reply #47
76. Sometimes..
a little blood has to be spilled to BeFree.
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 12:33 AM
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46. How in the sweet Sam Hill can you claim he's "failed" before his first year in office is done?
And if that's not bizarre enough, you then add what YOU would have done better, I guess as President?? What in the world???
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 12:36 AM
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48. So
You like Cheney running around free, shooting off his mouth?
That our bombs could be dropping on children's heads right now as we speak and more are sure to be dropped? You think that is right?
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 12:43 AM
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52. So crazy, that it's not even funny. Unbelievable. n/t
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 12:46 AM
Response to Reply #52
56. Yeah crazy
There has been no real change from Bushco. Wars rage, and rumors of more wars go on and on. Cheney is still free. No real change. Fail.
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 12:50 AM
Response to Reply #52
58. I'll let you handle this one. Something seems a litle "off" if you kow what I'm sayin'...
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 12:52 AM
Response to Reply #58
59. Yes I do, instead of flying my kite though, I'm going to bed...LOL n/t
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 12:56 AM
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61. Sweet dreams butter cakes
And hope to hell the terrorists don't get you tonight, they's so scary we have to fight them over there so we don't have to fight them out of your bedroom.

But Cheney is still free. But he won't bother you, he's not afraid of the likes of you. Why should he be?
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 01:04 AM
Response to Reply #61
64. LOL!!
Glad I took one more peek at this thread. You've got me laughing my ass off!
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 12:53 AM
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 01:05 AM
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65. So you're nasty as well as clueless? That's good to know.
Not that this is all that unusual for you green-teabagger types.

(See what happens when you insult people for no reason? You get shit right back to you.)

And before you keep boring and inadvertently entertaining everyone in this thread with your 4th grade insults, I don't have a kite so please don't ask me to fly one. I mean, if that's the best you can do, why even bother?? Just bow out gracefully and call it a day.
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Lilyeye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 12:38 AM
Response to Reply #41
50. His failed yet he hasn't even finished year one of his term?
:banghead:

The "I told you so" crowd is loving that line.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 12:45 AM
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55. Cheney is still free
And the wars grow. That's a failure. Same as bush. Reality is a bitch, eh?
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 05:09 PM
Response to Reply #55
84. 1. Arresting CHeney is not that easy
and it's not a high priority with a bad economy.

2. Iraq is drawing down and Afghanistan is now focused, so the wars grow is ridiculous.

3. Same as bush is absurd - McWar as continuing Bush would still be pursuing Iraq and maybe even including Iran.

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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 12:57 AM
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62. That's breathtaking arrogance, that is: "I could have done what you have done so far, and done more"
Can I have some of what you're smoking?

OTOH, get out there and run for President. You show 'em.

Hekate

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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 01:02 AM
Response to Reply #62
63. Oh
So, you never criticized Bush? Hypocrisy is real ugly. Don't you think?

Do you think Cheney still free is a success? A++? gawd...
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 02:27 AM
Response to Reply #63
68. How is criticizing Baby Caligula a problem for you? How is it hypocritical to recognize that Obama
... IS NOT EFFING BUSH?

You and all your bitter little friends... Bitter, bitter, bitter.

Hekate
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 09:09 AM
Response to Reply #68
77. he's not bush, but
he's not exactly rocking the ole bush boat is he?
I don't see bush, cheney, rumsfeld, rice, gonzales, or any of the other war criminals sweating bullets or anything--in fact, they feel free (cheney especially) to comment on and criticize Obama's policies with impunity. They know his administration will not only never do anything about their massive crimes, it will actually make it easier for them to commit them in the future. That to me is epic fail.
I also do not appreciate the way Obama has NOT resisted "health insurance" companies or neglected their bottom line, or the bottom line of the banksters and NOT advanced in any way, shape, or form a single-payer policy. For those efforts I give him a C-

yeah, I'm bitter, because I was stupid enough to believe a fork-tongued politician with a slogan about "change" who now appears to be one of the foxes robbing my henhouse. I'm bitter because I can't afford health insurance and whatever sack of shit I'm handed as my mandated, obligatory "insurance policy" isn't going to do shit other than further deplete my bank account and make all Obama's CEO friends even richer.
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 12:50 AM
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57. My feelings exactly. I think the Prez is giving an accurate self-assessment ...
He errs a bit on the side of modesty, imo, but he is right to enumerate his accomplishments -- especially since his former friends on the left are so quick to publicly dismiss and diss the reality of those accomplishments.

Hekate

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Undercurrent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 11:49 PM
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11. I disagree with the President.
I give him an A.
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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 11:50 PM
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13. Well, good for you, Mr. President. You're satisfied with the job you've done so far.
That tells me something I've been wondering about: You are accomplishing pretty much what you wanted to accomplish up to now. You're not all that frustrated, you aren't in agony, you don't feel you've really let anyone important to you down. Must be a good feeling. I'm sure you sleep well at night. Merry Christmas, sir. Sweet dreams.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 11:52 PM
Response to Reply #13
15. it was a bit of a shock to see him give such a high grade to himself... he was better off just
saying they've done some very good things, but he shouldn't even begin to grade himself, especially when so much is left undone.
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 11:58 PM
Response to Reply #15
23. This was Oprah. It's a TV show. Some call it entertainment.
This is a non-issue.

Maybe he should have deflected the question, maybe not.

It's just Oprah.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 11:59 PM
Response to Reply #23
26. Anything the President of the United States appears on, it is important what he says
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 12:15 AM
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35. And should he be honest, or should he agree with you?
He's entitled to be frank and honest and if he thinks he's worked his ass off and deserves a B+, who are we to expect a different answer?
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 11:52 PM
Response to Reply #13
16. Honestly, what the hell would you have expected him to say?
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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 12:06 AM
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30. "I give myself a B for effort and a C for performance, for as long as hardworking Americans go
without homes, jobs, and healthcare. I will never be satisfied with my performance while unemployment is at 10%. As long as America can do better, I can do better."

The focus of his answer should not be on himself!

I'd trust in him so much more if I thought he "got it." Self-satisfaction should never be acknowleged publicly. It's tacky and tone deaf for anyone over 12 years old. It won't endear you to anyone. Self-deprecation is infinitely more appealing.

This is not a big deal, but it does give us an insight into his thinking.

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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 12:09 AM
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33. It may give us an insight into his thinking, but it tells us nothing about his self-assessment
If he'd given himself an A, he'd have looked like an asshole. If he'd given himself less than a B, he'd have been committing political suicide.

Whatever he thinks about his job performance so far, he gave the best answer he could have given.


The mistake is in reading his answer as an indication of how he thinks he's doing.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 12:11 AM
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34. Did you even watch it? Pres Obama was plenty self deprecating.
He knows this isn't about him..it's what's been accomplished by all the people who have been working to turn around the mess that the last administration left.
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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 12:24 AM
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40. I never watch Oprah anymore. Well, good for him, giving credit to the people
around him. That sounds more his style. I never before saw him toot his own horn that.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 11:57 PM
Response to Reply #13
20. Sweet dreams
Edited on Sun Dec-13-09 11:59 PM by HughMoran
It must've been in dreams where you thought he said he'd accomplish any more than he has in 1 year.
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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 12:18 AM
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36. "Attempted" would make me very happy. I give lots of credit for effort.
Stop trying to tell people to lower their expectations. You can't make anyone like something they don't like.

I must have a better opinion of our president than some other people. I happen to think Obama has tremendous abilities and has much more to offer. So, yes, I have great expectations of him. I think he's worthy of them.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 12:08 AM
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32. No, if you saw it he wasn't satisfied at all.
But, he did list what has been accomplished.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 11:57 PM
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19. i give him an A
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 11:59 PM
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25. I'd say about a B minus.
Pretty close though.

I'd have said B+ without the escalation.
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debbierlus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 12:08 AM
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31. Delusional. F.
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 12:20 AM
Response to Reply #31
37. You gave him that grade prior to the inauguration...... your F means
nothing.
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 02:30 AM
Response to Reply #31
69. Bitter, bitter, bitter.
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 09:13 AM
Response to Reply #31
78. apparently believing cheap campaign slogans & realizing they were lies makes us "bitter"
Edited on Mon Dec-14-09 09:13 AM by ima_sinnic
well, yes it does. Some have lower standards than others, I guess, and are easily fooled by such gimmicks and don't really expect anything out of them.
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 09:14 AM
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79. PONY!!!!
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 01:34 PM
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82. You are delusional nt
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 12:21 AM
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38. Stupid question.
Oh, wait. Oprah. Never mind.
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 12:27 AM
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42. The fact that he isn't Bush automatically gives him some points in my
book, but I'd say, overall, he's what school kids would call an "easy grader."

I'd break it down this way:

Leadership on health care.......D

Diplomacy...............................B

Afghanistan Policy..................C- (only because he did what he said he was going to do)

Assistance for the Poor and Middle Class............D

Jobs Creation/Economic Stimulus........................C-

It would be interesting to hear his reasons for giving himself a B+. He must be inhabiting an alternate universe from the one I'm living in.





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pecwae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 05:40 AM
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70. Your grading is quite good.
And it's more accurate than what the President gave himself.
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BP2 Donating Member (406 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 12:27 AM
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43. No, he gets an "INCOMPLETE" until
he actually passes Health Care Reform. No more freebies until the assignment is actually turned in!

Once Barack passes it, he gets an A-.

If and when he get a REAL public option in there, then an A.

We'll talk about extra credit after the State of the Union with Amnesty and finishing Cap and Trade.
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Ninten12 Donating Member (61 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 12:29 AM
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44. Those "Advisors" Have To Go!
I admire Barack because he actually wanted the job of cleaning up after Dubya but the people around him are not progressives!


http://www.thepetitionsite.com/15/president-obama-needs...
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 12:37 AM
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49. I guess Bush really skewed the curve.
I give him an A+ for energy, but on actual policy, I think he is coming up short of passing.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 01:17 AM
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JTFrog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 06:34 AM
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71. Can't stand Dick or his daughter, but that's out of line. n/t
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Algorem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 08:15 AM
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72. B
for Buttmunch
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 08:45 AM
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75. My favorite neighbor, and good friend
has been out of work for 2 years. Yesterday they found out no one will work with them to help keep their home, so now he is jobless, thank God his wife still works, and soon they will have to find another place to live.

The people behind me, also friends, we foreclosed on two months ago.

I have to give the President a C at best right now and I feel I'm being generous.
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 09:19 AM
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80. Did people REALLY expect us to be experiencnig job GROWTH by NOW?
I was never under the impression that we'd be growing jobs faster than losing them by now. But to go from 700,000 jobs lost in January to 11,000 in November, is better than *I* expected.

One of us (either me or y'all) had some unrealistic expectations.
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 12:19 PM
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81. The Obama admin expected under 8% unemployment now
Around 7.75% dipping from a peak in the last quarter. This certainly implies job growth was expected.


But yeah, jobs lost was a phenomenal decline. There were some massive gains in some countries (Australia and Canada)
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 04:36 PM
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83. I give him a A. When he signs a HRC bill, he'll move to A+.
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 05:24 PM
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85. The grades in this thread are not performance grades, they are popularity grades.
I am unaware of any standard objective method for applying a letter grade to a President.

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