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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 12:32 PM
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Extortion?
Once you agree with the extortionist, he owns you. He will not stop. Things will not get better. They will get worse. You have to stand up to these criminals. Or you will pay a much higher price in the future. We should have separated the unemployment benefits from the taxcuts and fought like hell every day until we got help for these people. It would have been a PR nightmare for the Republicans.

But it appears the Democrats are about to submit to the requests of the extortionists. We are paying a deep price for this decision.
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VMI Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 12:35 PM
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1. Weak leadership from the top.
It is like a cancer.
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WiffenPoof Donating Member (676 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 12:43 PM
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2. We Should Have....
approached this and held strong WEEKS AGO.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 12:45 PM
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3. Did you join DU today for any reason other than to trash Democrats?
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WiffenPoof Donating Member (676 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 01:21 PM
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8. Oh...No I didn't.
I'm 57 years old....a lifelong Dem. I thought it was okay to voice dissatisfaction. Is that not allowed here? I don't mean to offend you.

-PLA
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 02:17 PM
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10. Don't worry
While it is considered somewhat bad form to immediately trash the administration right after signing up, the old rules certainly don't appear to apply these days. It seems trashing the President has become the favorite activity of many DUers. I'll welcome you.
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WiffenPoof Donating Member (676 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 03:34 PM
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11. Thanks....
I'll lay low for a while.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 12:46 PM
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4. Extortion? Senators have power.
that is legitimate. It is not criminal for them to vote the way they choose to vote.

Exaggeration, thy name is DU. Over the top Drama, again. Why can't it just be what it is? Bargaining in Congress as usual. That must happen. 100 Senators and 435 Representatives are human beings, with power, and they will never unite to do the "right" thing according to any particular US citizen member of a message board.

Obama probably wants to do it your way. Guess what if you read Article I, II and III of the Constitution you learn that the President never, and is not intended to, get all he wants.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 12:48 PM
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5. You don't want to call it extortion.
You are the one in denial.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 01:41 PM
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9. extortion has a precise definition
Senators are not committing extortion by not voting the way you want them to vote, or even the way the President does not want them to vote. Exaggeration pure and simple.
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allmylove Donating Member (19 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 12:49 PM
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6. There was no reason to link the two
My guess is that a calculation was made to save face and that linking them makes it easier for us to swallow.
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Raine1967 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 12:56 PM
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7. This is very similar to what the Bush administration said about Saddam
He didn't want to negotiate with the Enemy either. And here we are still in Iraq.

Just something to think about.

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