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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 01:25 PM
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WH not happy about Pelosi remaining Dem leader?
A reporter traveling with the prez (didn't catch his name; think he's with USAToday) told Tim Farley on POTUS radio today that behind the scenes the WH is not happy that Pelosi wants to continue as Dem leader. He said they're not keen on hearing about "The Obama/Pelosi agenda" for the next two years.

Anyone else catch any reporting on this? Hope it's not true - imo Nancy could teach the WH a thing or two about fighting.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 01:27 PM
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1. Nancy did everything Obama asked of her...he has no cause to complain...
Get me a HCR vote...ok, now get it without a public option...ok, and now make it very anti-choice....ok.
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Janice325 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 01:28 PM
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3. If he's not happy with her, I hope she stays.
IMO, she has more guts and forcefulness than Obama. I hate saying that but it's true. He needs to get FIERCE and grow a pair.
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sally cat Donating Member (544 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 04:38 PM
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58. She could care less if he's unhappy with her.
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The Wielding Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 01:33 PM
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6. And there has been nothing wrong with the agenda that helps the American people.
God, they have no guts to stand up to RW propaganda!
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 01:55 PM
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15. You do remember it was the House that produced the Stupak amendment, right?
And yet, you're somehow able to blame that on Obama. Of course. :eyes:
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 02:36 PM
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28. They did - and it was neeed to get enough votes - partially because
there were enough nos in the progressive caucus because they wanted something more progressive. The fact is that Obama/Pelosi and Reid all did what was needed on the abortion issue to pass the bill. There was NEVER an intent to move the status quo from the Hyde amendment in this bill.
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mkultra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-10 10:11 AM
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69. i do recall that it came because of hold outs in the house
Where Pelosi was the house leader.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 02:38 PM
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30. People are quick to say crap that is unfounded. Did you see ANYTHING that said this was true?! n/t
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rfranklin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 01:28 PM
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2. As a matter of principle she should be minority leader....
The Republicans spent tens of millions (maybe more) to destroy her. That is exactly why she should stay.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 01:31 PM
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4. Sounds like another bogus MSM rumor n/t
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 02:06 PM
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21. My first thought was well.
Not enough division to make good copy - the 80 billion dollars a second India trip BS went no where - so on the way home how about a 'some people are saying' report?
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 02:08 PM
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22. Agree. WH knows they will hear about the Obama/X agenda regardless
of who it is.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 01:33 PM
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5. I read that they are happy...
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 03:11 PM
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42. +1
:hi:
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jaxx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 01:34 PM
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7. "The White House does not comment or get involved in leadership elections,"
Edited on Tue Nov-09-10 01:34 PM by jaxx
Gibbs told reporters. "But as the president has said before, he appreciates the work of the speaker and the entire House Democratic leadership team, who have been great partners in moving the country forward. He looks forward to working with them in the years to come."

To be clear, Gibbs is saying the president is not going to "get involved" in the leadership race, which is the obvious course he would take since lawmakers are serious about any White House staying out of their internal business. The last thing Obama wants to do is to start dictating to House Democrats whom they should support and look like he's strong-arming them so quickly after a tough election for the party.

But the White House can also send unofficial signals, and in private conversations with Democrats close to the White House, I have gotten the sense that is what the administration is doing by saying warm things about her and not trying to block her effort. These Democrats say that despite the anti-Pelosi feeling out there, the president is very appreciative of the heavy lifting she did for him on health care reform, the stimulus and Wall Street reform.

OLITICS" target="_blank">http://articles.cnn.com/2010-11-05/politics/obama.pelos...

edit to add link
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 01:34 PM
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8. If this is true, then the WH is stupid! It doesn't matter who's the Democratic Minority Leader...
the wingnuts will go after that person. What's so hard for the Democrats to understand?

It doesn't matter if the Democrat is a Blue Dog or as conservative as Republicans. The Repukes will STILL go after that person, so why not be courageous and keep Nancy Pelosi? She has been an effective leader, much moreso than Reid or Obama!!
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 01:36 PM
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9. Links?
Edited on Tue Nov-09-10 01:36 PM by leveymg
And, what is "POTUS radio"? Hmmm . . .
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 03:09 PM
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40. Right-leaning SatRad channel, disguised as 'Impartial'.
Listened a few times, and it was Dem bashing every time, so I got the message.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 03:38 PM
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48. I've listened to The Morning Briefing and The Press Pool...
Neither one seems right-leaning - more just info about what events are taking place, without host opinion.
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 04:11 PM
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54. The regular news segments are ok.
It seems when they go looking for analysis, it seems they can find someone with a right-leaning opinion easier than a left one.

But then again, the right has those think tank guys ready to go on the air at the drop of a hat, for anyone that asks.


Just my opinion...you know what that's worth.

:P
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AndrewP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 04:24 PM
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56. Yeah, I listen to it every morning and it is rather neutral, IMO
But in fairness, I don't listen to the shows after 10 AM, so perhaps it leans one way or another during the day and I wouldn't know.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 03:36 PM
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47. On Sirius...
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 01:40 PM
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10. Hoyer would be better at compromising to the right, which seems the WH direction now
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 01:41 PM
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12. Well, then good.
Hoyer would have been a disaster.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 01:40 PM
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11. Andrea Mitchell said a 'top, top' WH official told her WH learned via tweet just like the rest of us
Edited on Tue Nov-09-10 02:05 PM by flpoljunkie
Pelosi worked very hard to pass 'Obama's agenda,' and this is the thanks she gets from the White House. I hope this is untrue, Andrea.

I am done supporting Democrats who are indistinguishable from Republicans. We need more Democrats from the 'Democratic Wing' of our party. We can effect real change in this country only if we put the people of this country before the special interests. I'm talking to you, DINO's.
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Crazy Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 02:09 PM
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23. But we're always told that liberal, progressive democrats are "unelectable"
Even after Obama proved everyone wrong and pissed the party off in the primaries running as a progressive who would help Main Street vs. Wall St., give us a public option for health care, close Gitmo and end the wars, yadda, yadda...

Obama won in a big way promising America all that and he is going to lose in a big way come 2012 for breaking those promises and/or caving in to the republicans and big business.

What's so funny is that he has played ever so nice with big business, giving them anything they wanted yet they still put all their money behind the republican candidates in the mid-terms and will do so again in 2012.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 02:23 PM
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25. We will soon see if President Obama is going to stand and fight for what's right
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Crazy Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 02:28 PM
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26. I won't be holding my breath
Spill panel: No evidence of saving $ over safety

WASHINGTON The BP oil rig explosion and spill wasn't about anyone purposely trading money for safety, investigators on a special presidential commission said Monday.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101108/ap_on_go_ot/us_gulf...
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Hawkowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 03:09 PM
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41. Been there, done that
Not gonna happen. Compromise. Equivocate. Bend Over and thank you sir may I have another!
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 09:00 PM
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62. I think that ship has sailed.
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 03:21 PM
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43. Gee...
kind of a lot like the thank you Howard Dean got for bringing victory to the Obama candidacy for president.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 03:55 PM
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52. She's suggesting that the WH and Pelosi aren't in touch? nt
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 01:44 PM
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13. a friend of a friend of mine who is a government employee said Michelle is angry with Barack

The people who fall for the lamest shit stirring rumor crack me up.
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Bobbie Jo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 01:46 PM
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14. *snort*
:rofl:
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 01:56 PM
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16. So true!
It has become beyond ludicrous lately.

:rofl:
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 02:00 PM
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18. I know, I heard he was spending 200 Mill a day over there on vacation in India!!11!!!nt!
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 02:33 PM
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27. Great response
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ampad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 04:12 PM
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55. Then have the nerve
to get pissed off and say that you are against constructive criticism when you call them on it. Nothing constructive about hearsay.
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rufus dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-10 02:18 AM
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66. But Barack didn't come out and immediately respond
to what your friend in the Govt said so he is doing a poor job of messaging.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 01:56 PM
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17. And this reporter was able to give names. Or is it another of these baseless rumors?
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 02:02 PM
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19. Is this like the fictional
letter fox news claims has all the blue dogs wanting her out also? The letter that nobody has seen but has been reported on ad nauseum?
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fugop Donating Member (901 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 02:05 PM
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20. I hate to quote Reagan but ...
"There they go again."

"Hmmm. Let's see. Let's make sure the left continues to get madder at Obama. Oh wait! I know! Let's start some rumors that he hates one of the more liberal fighters out there - Nancy Pelosi! If we can start a whisper campaign saying he didn't want Nancy to stay on, I bet by lunch the democratic discussion forums will be on FIRE with people screaming about how they're done with President Obama!"

Lucky for us, that kind of blatant manipulation never works on us. Right?
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Uzybone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 02:13 PM
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24. DU = unfounded rumor central
I read some of the most foolish wildest pulled right out the ass shit here.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 02:39 PM
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31. THANK YOU! n/t
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 02:37 PM
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29. Why are you people posting rumors and BS all the time damned time?!
Edited on Tue Nov-09-10 02:38 PM by vaberella
There are sometimes people need to take a bloody moment, step back and realize that some shit is just shit stirring and NOT fuckin' fact.

Edited to add: There AREN'T even any links provided with this shitty claim!
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catgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 02:43 PM
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32. Oh come on now

You know better than to post stuff like this.
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golfguru Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 02:46 PM
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33. If this is true, Pelosi will not become minority leader /nt
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BklnDem75 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 02:57 PM
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34. That's not what my cousin's baby's daddy said!
What kind of bs crap is this? Unrec
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young but wise Donating Member (760 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 03:06 PM
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37. LOL
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 03:00 PM
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35. probably bullshit to stir up things.
we should be used to this by now
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Little Star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 03:02 PM
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36. Nancy is not the one who needs to go.
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sally cat Donating Member (544 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 04:43 PM
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60. I'll bite. Who needs to go?
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 03:07 PM
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38. I don't trust reporters from USAToday.
It's been a long time since I last read the paper. And that was the reason.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 03:56 PM
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53. I don't either - that's why I asked if anyone else had heard this. nt
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 03:08 PM
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39. Deleted message
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craigmatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 03:23 PM
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44. The midterms were more Obama's fault than Pelosi's. He kept making the congressional dem stick their
out while giving little to no message or political cover. Pelosi was a good speaker but Obama clearly thought congressional dems were expendable.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 03:28 PM
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46. I agree, and would love to know what Pelosi thinks about this. nt
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 09:09 PM
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64. TOTALLY Agree
Pelosi is the one who needs to stay!
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 03:28 PM
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45. Good grief, what a bunch of babies! I was asking if anyone has heard...
...any other reporting like this. Jeez, touchy, touchy!!
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AndrewP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 04:28 PM
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57. I get the impression many here wouldn't pass a Politics 101 course
Of course it's possible that this is true. There is back room dealing, poll taking and shifting of strategy all of the time in every White House.

I heard the same report you did, but I honestly am not sure what to really make of it. It could be completely untrue. It could be someone's idea of floating a trial balloon to see what kind of reaction it gets.

It's the kind of stuff you get this time after an election. Everyone is jockeying for position.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 04:39 PM
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59. You're so right about the jockeying. I try to watch the whole game...
...all the plays are interesting, even if it's not what I'd like to see.

USA Today seems pretty right leaning these days - but I'm sure we'll be hearing more from other reporters before long, especially those on the trip with the president.
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-10 03:13 PM
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77. ...
:rofl:
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 03:44 PM
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49. I haven't heard, but I wouldn't put a lot of faith into some unsubstantiated rumor.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 09:01 PM
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63. Yeah, I'm sure the President supports the Public Option
Whoops -- wrong unsubstantiated rumor.

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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 03:46 PM
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50. Strange if true
Pelosi gave the White House everthing it wanted.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 03:49 PM
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51. Yes, and then got punished in the election...
If anyone deserved to retain the majority, it's Pelosi.

I guess time will tell - I'll be watching to see if this or other reporters actually files a story.
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 04:45 PM
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61. bogus, imo
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DemocraticPilgrim Donating Member (472 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-10 02:05 AM
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65. Well thankfully, it's a more progressive leaning house, so go Nancy !...
Edited on Wed Nov-10-10 02:06 AM by DemocraticPilgrim
They've always been close can't really imagine this to be true. I go with what I see with my own eyes most times.
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GOTV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-10 09:36 AM
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67. Was he encouraging the Dems to select a Republican as their leader? Bi-partisanship ya know!
It would be easier to find compromise on the tax cuts that way.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-10 03:57 PM
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79. At this point, I wouldn't even be surprised by that. nt
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Capt. America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-10 09:59 AM
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68. Perhaps he should be more concerned about getting rid of Kaine and Gibbs, those two are
doing him no favors.
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-10 11:49 AM
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70. Depends what reporter said it. If it was Ed Henry, anyone at Politico
Fox News, ABC, Liz Sidoti, or a few others, I'd disregard it until confirmed by someone who has some credibility.
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-10 11:51 AM
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71. No wonder reports make shit up, you guys believe whatever they say
even when you don't know who said it.

Maybe it's true, maybe it's not. Who the fuck knows based on "some reporter." Some reporter could be anyone from Fox News, who also reported the trip was costing $500 gazillion a day.

:eyes:
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-10 12:11 PM
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74. You need to work on reading comprehension. nt
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-10 04:22 PM
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80. Really? Who is the reporter?
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-10 05:50 PM
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84. Yeah really - your comprehension sucks. Try again. nt
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-10 10:22 AM
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86. Way to back up your argument. I bet you were never on the debating team. n/t
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-10 12:00 PM
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72. We need to let a DLCer be in charge for a change.
I can see why Obama might not like her- she is not center right like all of the rest of the country.

We need someone who can work with the far right. If the far right had gotten more of what they wanted under Pelosi, they would not have gone after us so hard. Tea Party people would have voted with us if we had someone more conservat-err, I mean centrist. But try telling this to those crazy liberals...
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-10 12:10 PM
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73. LOL nt
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-10 02:52 PM
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76. In your heart, you know I'm Right. Join us.
Edited on Wed Nov-10-10 02:53 PM by Dr Fate
Throw off your liberal chains and join us.

Arent you tired of having to defend "values" and "facts"? Dont they weigh around your neck like a millstone?

I can help.

The key is that there ARE NO values or facts that really matter. What matters is what conservatives and swing voters say they think, and whether you can say you think that too.

Free your mind, and centrism will follow. So will victory. Some day.

Join us. In your heart, you know we are Right.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-10 03:51 PM
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78. Yeah, what the hell...
Values and facts really are a heavy load - why not just go for power for power's sake!
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-10 04:46 PM
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81. Now you are learning how to talk like a WINNER!
Edited on Wed Nov-10-10 04:47 PM by Dr Fate
We proved that centrism WINS many, many years ago, back in the 90's.

It is still the winning strategy in this decade too- but we might not be able to tell for a few more years. It's all part of being patient and pragmatic.

The fact the grunge music is making a comeback is no mere coincidence. The 90's are coming back and when they do -LOOK OUT! B/c we know exaclty what strategies worked then, and we know they will work now- or soon.

This will BLINDSIDE the GOP, who have no idea that centrists do whatever they think Clinton might have done in the 90's. Plus, we all remember how they were scared to fight Clinton or take him on- the same will be true now (or really, really soon- I promise) too.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-10 04:54 PM
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82. I think you should have a show like Colbert's - only DLC. ;)
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-10 12:34 PM
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75. Unrec...nt
Sid
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hulka38 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-10 05:40 PM
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83. Because she pushed too hard for a PO
and made it look easy to do?
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