Are You Still Convinced Obama Will Run in 2012

[rsmith6621]

....After yesterdays news conference I am convinced that he WONT....

[WI_DEM]

1. Yes, because it was no different than Clinton's day after news conference

Flashback: Bill Clinton Press Conference After 1994 Election "We Were Held Accountable Yesterday and I Accept My Share of the Responsibility"

Clinton to Republicans: "I ask them to join me in the center"...

http://www.hapblog.com/2010/11/flashback-bill-clinton-press-conference.html

[Ozymanithrax]

2. He will run. n/t

[TheWraith]

3. That's a pretty ridiculous statement, even for DU.

Of course the President is going to run for reelection.

[SunsetDreams]

4. What were the exact words that caused you to think that?

[onenote]

5. Yes.

But maybe I missed the secret, audible only to you message that indicated that he doesn't intend to run. Why don't you tell us what you heard that none of us heard?

[sharp_stick]

6. We need to be able to vote on dumbest post of the day

an entire page dedicated to such posts would preserve them for posterity. This has a real shot at the wall of fame on the dumbest post page.

[gkhouston]

29. We could call it "The Outhouse" for those posts which are truly full of shit. n/t

[Drunken Irishman]

7. Stop eating paint chips.

[FSogol]

10. +1. Exactly.

[CakeGrrl]

11. ...

:rofl:

[Dinger]

8. I Think He Will

He should.

[demosincebirth]

9. You must have skipped a chapter in your political science class

[CakeGrrl]

12. You've been HOPING he won't, so congrats for talking yourself into it!

:crazy:

[denem]

13. Nope. The Earth comes to an end on Jan 1, 2012.

He wont get the chance.

[azmouse]

14. This shit gets old real fast.

Get over it. Obama won in '08 and he will win again in '12.

[David__77]

15. Of course he will silly.

But it's inevitable there is talk like this...

[Starbucks Anarchist]

16. "Convinced" is not a synonym for "hoping."

[SunsetDreams]

21. ...

:fistbump:

[La Lioness Priyanka]

31. lol

good one

[Casandra]

17. Absolutely

I believe he will NOT run in 2012! Have believed this for the last couple of months. Ask me why, I cannot answer you specifically. It's not something he said or didn't say, just a feeling. After yesterday's press conference, then today's agreement with the rethugs, that he is going to let the rich have the tax cuts..I am more convinced than ever. The capitulating has already begun. More coming, so grab your anchors and plant them firmly. This is going to be a rough ride!

This is one of the most decent human beings, in the world of politics or any other world, that I have ever had the pleasure of being aware of...one of the real GOOD GUYS.. I love him as a person and have the utmost respect for him. I couldn't think of him more highly and couldn't imagine the world without him. He contributes to this 'lost' society by just being here and the pure simpleness of his purity of heart should speak to every one of us, as both an example and a model to look up to... but I am feeling, he just got in over his head this time. He's trying to please everyone and doesn't seem to recognize he's fallen in a pool of man eating sharks. Not only doesn't he see it, he doesn't WANT to see it... as he believes in the good of the 'sharks'. An incredible guy, but sitting in the wrong place right now. But, whatever he decides to do, run or not run, he is who he is and I'm glad he's a fellow traveler right now.He has given me and all of us the privilege to see that there are still decent politicians out there..who in their hearts are really 'trying'.

[ColesCountyDem]

18. Run, win the nomination and better than 50-50 shot at being re-elected. n/t

[JTFrog]

19. Convincing yourself doesn't impress me much.

:shrug:

[impik]

20. I hope he won't

This country deserves Bush.

[bigwillq]

22. Yes (nt)

[JoePhilly]

23. Anyone else notice the person who posted this, dropped their bomb, and left?

Talk about some weak ass crap.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

24. So are his imaginary encounters with Republicans.

[gkhouston]

28. Maybe the OP needed to pick up some fast food? n/t

[LiberalFighter]

25. I came here to unrec because the thread is totally pointless and undermining.

[BlueIris]

26. Since late 2009, I've been close to positive he won't.

Won't come anywhere near "deciding" to do it, either. I'm reserving about 7% of my energy for the possibility that TPTB will try to drag him through the election cycle, but I doubt they will make the attempt.

[gkhouston]

27. Yes, I'm convinced. n/t

[jefferson_dem]

30. Please.

Get a grip.

[besdayz]

32. a

how old are you, 12?
1st rule is never judge their intentions by the "display" they put on for others......
2nd rule is this isn't unchartered territory.......

every midterm presidency loses, (except for a 9/11 boosted Bush)....
the reason it was this big was the magnitude of economic demise..

sadly we are stuck in this paradigm since really nothing was done to fundamentally change any part of the "system".

we are probably further beholden to moneyed interests now.....

[scheming daemons]

33. What are you, 25 years old? Clinton sounded worse than that in '94... Reagan in '82.....

He's running again.


There's 0 doubt about it.

[AtomicKitten]

34. At this point in his presidency, BClinton was 10 pts behind where Pres O is now.

Obama-Biden 2012 :patriot:

[2Design]

35. no - he got what he wanted - he will go out and make more money elsewhere

he has no interest in the fight for the people or he would have done it

[shimmergal]

36. I'm not convinced he won't,

but I think there's a possibility of it.

He just doesn't seem to have the appetite for fighting -- either the Republicans or the corporations -- that it would take to turn things around.

If he just felt inept at it, he could leave it to Biden or some other high level staff to lob off the real zingers, and do the head-butting.

But he apparently isn't willing to do that either.

And it wouldn't be unprecedented in recent history. Lyndon Johnson took himself out of the running in 1968.

Of course, the situations weren't the same. Johnson really liked the rough-and-tumble of politics. Also, by that time he'd managed to get most of his Great Society agenda enacted. But he was bogged down in Vietnam, and didn't know how to get out.

[LawnLover]

45. The guy is a student of Chicago politics

and you don't think he has the apetite for fighting?

Maybe he's simply a pragmatist. Have you ever thought of that?

[Chan790]

48. If you're right and I hope you're not,

That would be worse. We don't need a pragmatist, we need a street fighter. I hope he realizes now that politically-pacifist zen pragmatism is capitulation.

I have no doubt he's running. I hope he finds some spine and checks the "pragmatism" first.

[LawnLover]

54. We need a pragmatist

I see nothing at all wrong with dealing with things sensibly and realistically. He knows the reality of Washington. He plays with the hand he's been dealt. Going into street fighter mode and working outside the system won't help him or us a bit.

[kestrel91316]

37. Of course he will. This wasn't some Donnybrook. Just a run-of-the-mill

midterm with the usual results. Though Dems taking control of CA top to bottom was a nice little bonus....

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[HipChick]

39. More of the same..

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=433&topic_id=508877&mesg_id=508877

[PurityOfEssence]

40. Yes.

Any more questions?

[DemocraticPilgrim]

41. It's his life long dream he's going to live the full dream, 2012 is a whole new arena where all take

part. His approval's higher than in the 90's at this time, he has votes that won't leave him he'd be crazy not to run and we'd be more crazy to oppose him. Sorry Nadar on democracy now the other day minorities won't stop believing, and he'd know that if he walked in their shoes. Nadar plays divide and conquer just as much as the right only Nadar's kind leaves us in the cold of a generation. Nadar has pie in the sky plan the rich save us, no organizng and that's it and helping the improve the party we got. Nadar's aim is to destroy Dems just as much as the right, only for a far less productive outcome for our side. At least when the GOP do it we push back.

[FrenchieCat]

42. Smells like Reconstruction around here.

[NYC Liberal]

43. YES. His reelection campaign is already being formed.

He is running. Period. End of story.

[dionysus]

44. *facepalm*

[krawhitham]

46. He is crazy if he does

He gets attacked from all sides, fuck that

[Arkana]

47. Then you're on crack, because I'm positive he will.

[FBaggins]

49. Of course he will. n/t

[Phx_Dem]

50. Duh.

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[polichick]

53. What about the conference convinced you that he won't run? nt