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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-09-09 02:00 PM
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Poll question: Health Care Bill (compromise version) or No Bill?
Given what you know now about the compromise version of the health care bill, would you support its passage or would you rather no health care bill pass at all?
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phleshdef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-09-09 02:01 PM
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1. Anyone who would trash the bill approves of pre-existing condition and gender discrimination.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-10-09 06:01 AM
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10. I'm trashing it bcause it institutionalized age discrimination
So stop with the fucking bullshit about abolishing pre-existing conditions. AGE is a pre-existing condition, and if you are over 50 and not old enough for Medicare, you are totally fucked.
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-09-09 02:04 PM
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2. Compromising always sucks, but I'll take it over the alternative.
This is going to be SOP whenever we're dealing with recalcitrant, obstructionist republicans.
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-09-09 02:07 PM
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3. If I was in congress I'd vote for the thing
Edited on Wed Dec-09-09 02:08 PM by Kurt_and_Hunter
But I can still bitch about the outcome
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SIMPLYB1980 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-09-09 02:19 PM
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4. Pass that thing and improve on it later.
imo
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-09-09 03:04 PM
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5. How can no one be answering "don't know" when we don't even know
what is in the compromise version yet?
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DrToast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-09-09 03:18 PM
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6. Not enough is known about the compromise bill to answer this
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-09-09 10:51 PM
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7. I stand with Anthony Weiner and Howard Dean - PASS THE BILL!
It sounds like a HUGE step forward.
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Jeff In Milwaukee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-10-09 08:52 AM
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13. This is VERY complicated....
That being said, if Howard Dean and Rep. Weiner (and Rep. Frank) say it's a good bill, I trust their judgment on the matter.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-10-09 12:30 PM
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14. Yes indeed. I have family that will benefit greatly from the medicare
changes, for starters.:hi:
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-09-09 10:57 PM
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8. If I was among the 24 million Americans not covered by bill, or the millions mandated to buy into
the for-profit system, I would be voting the bill down.

The devil is in the details, and the House has to reconcile to Senate version.
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-09-09 11:42 PM
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9. Killing the bill would be a complete disaster.
If you want a repeat of '94, that's how you get it. You'll pretty much prove that the Democrats can't get anything done at all.

The current compromise is not great, but still has lots of good stuff in it like the Medicare buy-in, the expansion of Medicaid, subsidies for moderate incomes for health insurance, the ban on pre-existing conditions clauses & rescission, caps on out-of-pocket costs, etc. fucking etc.

We need this bill, even if it doesn't give us everything we want.
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-10-09 06:25 AM
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11. Pass it - it's better than nothing, and we can build on it or change it
-as we have done with Medicare- when we have more votes.

I don't think congress has done very well by us, but I didn't really expect much from them, and it might turn out better than I imagined.It may actually help a lot of people, which is the point for me, anyway, not scoring "progressive points".

I just can't stand to see them congratulating themselves for the wonderful work they did.

mark
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VMI Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-10-09 07:55 AM
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12. I own lots of UNH.
So I say pass the bill.
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