Nikki Haley: Drug test recipients of unemployment benefits

[catgirl]

Huffington Post:

If South Carolina gubernatorial candidate Nikki Haley had her way, her state's unemployed would be subjected to mandatory drug testing in order to receive unemployment benefits.

"I'm gonna push to make sure that if someone fails a drug test in this state, that we are not gonna pay benefits," Haley said at a press conference outside the S.C Department of Employment and Workforce. "That's something I'm gonna push for, I think people of this state deserve that. Personal responsibility matters and we're gonna continue to fight that fight."

Haley's proposal builds off a piece of legislation that was brought before the South Carolina Senate last year.

South Carolina's The State reports:

The idea was proposed last year during Legislative debate, but some argued denying benefits to those who fail a drug test is unconstitutional. State Sen. David Thomas, R-Greenville, proposed the department conduct a urine drug test on a random sample of 500 first-time benefit recipients, and report the findings to the General Assembly by Nov. 1.

If more than 10 percent of the random sample tested positive for drug use, then 3 percent of all new benefit recipients would have to be drug tested going forward as of Feb. 1, 2011. The legislation, which was withdrawn, would also have required lawmakers to be drug tested.

Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/10/06/nikki-haley-drug-tests_n_752235.html

[TreasonousBastard]

1. "...would also have required lawmakers to be drug tested." !!!

[dave29]

28. shocking, did you know she is owned by pharmaceutical companies?

Maybe now you do

[Bitwit1234]

2. Gee maybe Haley wouldn't pass it she sounds sorta spaced out.

[HelenWheels]

3. Who pays?

Where are the funds to pay for the testing? And if a parent fails the drug test will the state take their children away and pay for foster care?

[DrToast]

41. Don't be silly. Republicans don't worry about paying for stuff*

[WI_DEM]

4. while were at it drug test candidates for governor.

[svsu]

5. I say yes, everyone should be tested.

lawmakers included.

[dionysus]

6. fuck that noise jack.

[svsu]

7. let's let everyone do drugs then eh?

Good idea :)

[catgirl]

8. Unemployed=drug addict?

Are you serious?

[GoCubsGo]

13. Unemployed=free-loading welfare recipients.

And, freeloading welfare recipients=drug addicts. At least to imbeciles like Haley and her fellow conservative turds. Remember these are the assclowns who think people who are on unemployment want to stay at home collecting a pittance, rather than being back at their old jobs making paychecks that are many times larger, along with such benefits as health insurance. Sadly, yes, she is serious. Sweet Jeezus, I hate this state. Get me out of here, PLEASE!!!

[golfguru]

23. Nope, but unemployed are being paid by the employed

and the employees are subject to drug testing, so why not
those getting paid without jobs?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

29. That's Incorrect

It's called unemployment insurance. An unemployed person paid for it when he was working.

Now to drug testing. Unless you are a pilot, physician, or some other position where you are responsible for the safety of others I oppose drug testing. I wouldn't piss in a cup for anybody but my doctor.

[golfguru]

33. You are also incorrect.

My wife works in a doctor's office and the office in inundated with people
sent by employers for drug testing. There are truck drivers, bus drivers,
new employees of Wal-Mart and other outfits, existing employees being given
routine surprise tests, medical personnel etc.

You are also incorrect in that the "insurance" paid by the employee before
he/she lost the job, pays for all unemployment checks. If that was true why is
congress passing bills to fund unemployment checks by Billions of dollars?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

34. Exactly,

"My wife works in a doctor's office and the office in inundated with peoplurprisede
sent by employers for drug testing. There are truck drivers, bus drivers,
new employees of Wal-Mart and other outfits, existing employees being given
routine surprise tests, medical personnel etc."

Right, people have surrendered their privacy to corporate America because they need a job. I am surprised a so called progressive would support such a gross invasion of privacy. Piss in a cup to clean toilets at Wal mart....

"You are also incorrect in that the "insurance" paid by the employee before
he/she lost the job, pays for all unemployment checks. If that was true why is
congress passing bills to fund unemployment checks by Billions of dollars? "


Contrary to popular belief, unemployment insurance is not funded by individual taxpayer dollars. Rather it is funded by the employer who, pursuant to FUTA, is mandated by the IRS to pay a certain percentage of taxable wages in state and federal unemployment taxes.

http://www.suite101.com/content/how-unemployment-insurance-works-a100002

We have established that you favor mandatory drug testing for unemployment insurance recipients and Wal Mart employees. What other groups do you favor mandatory drug testing for? Medicare recipients? Social Security recipients? Veterans Benefits recipients? How about everybody?

[golfguru]

35. I understand what you are saying about employers contributing

towards a fund for writing unemployment checks.

But obviously it is not enough to cover 99 weeks of unemployment.
That is why congress has to appropriate Billions more. Which means
working tax payers are also footing the bill.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

37. Mandatory Drug Testing

Mandatory drug testing is a gross invasion of privacy and should only be sanctioned when the public safety is at stake.

[golfguru]

38. Since you are not forced to work for any employer

the employer then has the prerogative regarding drug testing.
For example workers high on intoxicants are likely to affect quality
of goods or services produced.

If one does not like the employer's drug policy, one can look for another job.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

40. What Else Does Your Employer Have To Know About You?

Religion?

Sexual orientation?

Credit history?


If a worker is performing his job poorly than there is at least a predicate for further investigation.


"If one does not like the employer's drug policy, one can look for another job."

-golfguru


In the worst economy in one hundred years.

[golfguru]

45. Please read post #44

To repeat, if the employer is smart, shrewd and savvy he will always
weigh all factors before making any decisions.

If the employer is knee jerk, stupid & ignoramus, you will be better
off looking for another job.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

46. Well

"If the employer is knee jerk, stupid & ignoramus, you will be better
off looking for another job. "

That's easier said than done when the economy is in the crapper and there are six applicants for every open job.

[Scout]

43. and if i got high once 2 weeks ago at a party....

and then i test positive, i deserve to lost my job even tho' no one has been harmed and i've done my job properly and effectively???

got it.

you do know that smart drug users know how to fool drug tests, right? there's a whole industry devoted to same. so that's a big fucking waste of taxpayer money right there, all those piss tests that don't catch anything anyway :rofl:

[golfguru]

44. If your employer is shrewd

he will evaluate your drug results versus your job performance
and if you are a productive employee he will retain your position.

If the employer is stupid, then he will fire you even with your
good performance record. In this case you really should not stay with
this employer anyway. In the long run it will turn out unprofitable for you.

[Scout]

47. so then what's the fucking point of the wasted money on the drug test? n/t

[Scout]

54. waiting ... what's the point of wasting the money on the drug test...

in view of your comment:

"he will evaluate your drug results versus your job performance
and if you are a productive employee he will retain your position."

if i'm going to be evaluated on performance anyway, as i should be, then what's the point of the drug test???

[DemocratSinceBirth]

55. To Remind You That You Are A Serf And Your Employer Is The Lord

~

[catgirl]

48. And so are smokers

And people with weak bladders. Oh, and people addicted to cell phones, computer games, Facebook, online news, etc.
Who determines what makes an employee likely to affect quality of services?

[CLANG]

19. Yes it's a FUCKING GOOD idea! Dont' be a prude.

[Scout]

42. fuckin' A! n/t

[molly77]

50. svsu

Our ex president g bush had to have his pee and poop saved when he went overseas so Enquiring minds couldn't find out what he was on. Whatever it was, it didn't work.

[Dark]

57. Here's my thing. A good 8th, at about 30 to 40 bucks (in SW Ohio) can provide

a week's worth of entertainment.

People NEED entertainment. They need recreation. Otherwise they will fall into depression.

[GoCubsGo]

11. Yep. You first, Nikki. n/t

[MrSlayer]

49. Fuck that.

Drug testing is an invasion of privacy. Workers should only be tested if they are visibly intoxicated on site.

[KansasVoter]

52. I think this is fine.

[h9socialist]

9. I'll be glad to send a stein of piss to every Republican I can!

[COLGATE4]

10. Another Rethug Teabagger speaks her 1/2 mind. nt

[GoCubsGo]

12. 1/2 mind?

You are way too generous. :-)

[Brickbat]

14. Looking forward to governors, senators and representatives getting tested, too! And candidates!

[golfguru]

24. +1000

[jenmito]

15. But she's the "new face" of the GOP! She's putting an end to the "GOP=old white man" profile!

The media LOVES her and other RWers like her. They just ignore their extreme positions. :eyes:

[Perky]

16. Why is she bringing this up to fire up her base?

Doesn't she have a comfortable lead?

[GoCubsGo]

27. Nope.

She's only up by about 4 pts. at present.

[Arkana]

17. Thank God I live in Massachusetts and we have a good chance of reelecting our Democratic governor.

[CLANG]

18. So your are completely down on you luck and she's going

to make you give up something that gives you a little comfort? How fucking compassionate! Then let's invade elected officials homes after work and test them for alcohol. Dumb mfers!:grr:

[GoCubsGo]

21. Well...

Being on unemployment is humiliating, thanks to her ilk, who liken recipients to "lazy welfare cheats." Not to mention all the idiotic hoops one must jump through to get it. She just wants to humiliate the unemployed even more by adding yet another humiliating hoop to jump through. That, and she probably figures it will discourage people from applying for unemployment in the first place. Remember, Haley comes from the party where a substantial number of those running for Congress want to force a woman to bear her rapist's child. I think they get their jollies on making people suffer.

[maxsolomon]

20. not far enough!

1. Ankle-braclet monitoring to make sure the unemployed don't go to a park or fishing until they find a job.
2. CCTV monitoring in every room in a unemployed person's house to make sure they don't jack masturbate or commit sodomy till they find a job.

only then can we assure that our tax dollars aren't being wasted!

meanwhile, our military is the biggest welfare program in the history of the planet.

[molly77]

51. You are so right

2.2 trillion lost from DOD prior to 9/11. Did anybody ever go look for it?

[county worker]

22. Get A Job!

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[tledford]

25. Nikki needs to stop eating those blue mushrooms. eom

[dave29]

26. Someone go look for Lab Companies that underwrite her campaign

post haste

I got charged 2k for a urine drug screen. These guys are unbelievable assholes.

[krispos42]

30. Sure... as long as all elected officials are held to the same standard n/t

[and-justice-for-all]

31. I am not opposed to it.....

People in office should be made to take a piss test as well.

[wisteria]

32. I didn't realize that drug use among the unemployed was such a huge problem.

Really? What is she really suggesting? That the unemployed are on drugs, and this is why they are not finding work? So she thinks it sounds like a great idea to spend big money-tax payer money- to randomly drug test the unemployed. The attacks and accusations by the right against the unemployed is getting shocking. Instead of attacking the problem, they are attacking the victims.

[GoCubsGo]

39. Not only that, she wants to create more unemployed

Part of her platform is shrinking state government, and laying off workers. As for what she's suggesting, this is more of the "collecting unemployment makes people lazy" meme. Just more humiliation to discourage the unemployed from collecting it.

[Blue_Tires]

58. the 'unemployed' is the 'cadillac driving welfare queen' of the 1980s

i.e., codewords for "lazy, drugged out, ten-kids-in-the-house" racial minorities...Because the typical southern repub honestly believes that 99.9 percent of the unemployment list is made up of this type...

[treestar]

63. Really!! and what about the deficit?

I guess now it's not a problem??

[muffin1]

36. Ah, yes...

doncha just love those "small government' folks? Funny how they are alright with the government in your bedroom, bladder and womb.

:evilfrown:

[karynnj]

53. How cruel and humiliating

She obviously doesn't get that many, who have worked their entire adult lives already have the pain and sometimes a sense of shame (though they shouldn't) or failure because they are unemployed. Adding a drug test - when there is absolutely no cause to think they are on drugs is despicable.

[ZombieHorde]

56. How does she suggest we pay for such a program? nt

[renegade000]

59. With all the excess personal responsibility this initiative will generate

I hear the exchange rate between personal responsibility and actual money is pretty good these days...

[ZombieHorde]

60. Funny. nt

[renegade000]

61. In seriousness though,

I did have the exact same question as you. I am skeptical that the percentage of people who would fail the drug test would be enough to provide any savings after the costs of running this program. Plus, you might as well pay for rehab programs for the people who fail if you're truly concerned that they're just sitting around all day, not contributing to society. Maybe you could even employ some of the people who didn't fail the test for this...

[treestar]

62. These Republicans are so obsessed with controlling others

And unemployment is insurance you've paid into.

The criminal laws against drugs are enough. Geez, these people are always looking for new methods of punishment for others.

[IggleDoer]

64. What do the repubs want to do with those who test positive?

Throw them on the street or get them care to clean up their act. I suspect the former. Repubs are not interested in helping society, just corporations. They just want to quit paying people.