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GSLevel9 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-10 02:54 PM
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Piss off the base + Census 2010 = Sarah Palin POTUS #45
I can't help but feel like the administration is making a mistake with the whole anti-left attack on the Base.

If you pour cold water on the turn out and enthusiasm some people will stay home. Combine this effect with electoral college changes and a whack-job Pub might WIN in '12.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/09/27/study-red-states-may-gain-electoral-votes-house-seats/

A new study predicts that when the dust settles from the 2010 Census, eight southern and western states will gain congressional seats largely at the expense of states in the Midwest and Northeast.
According to the unofficial study, Arizona, Georgia, Nevada, South Carolina, Utah and Washington would each gain an additional seat in Congress, while Florida and Texas would gain two and four seats, respectively.

States predicted to lose a single congressional seat are Illinois, Iowa, Louisiana, Massachusetts, Michigan, Missouri, New Jersey, and Pennsylvania, while New York and Ohio are each projected to lose two seats.


So in 2012... the game board is ALREADY at a disadvantage for the DEMS.

If you take the 2000 Bush states that totaled 271 EV's... those states in 2012 will be worth approx 278 EV's.

What this means... is that the Pubs can win with one or two less states in the WIN column.

Before you pass out ammo for the circular firing squad... think of the consequences.

Look at the 2004 electoral map. Bush got 286 EV's. In 2012 those states are worth 294.

If it's a CLOSE election... those extra EV's will be the difference.

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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-10 02:56 PM
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1. Pffft...the DLC wishes the pubs would run someone with a 25% approval rating...
Isn't this what my hero should be calling a "Strawman"?

Perhaps it would be better to use this example to clarify things to him!
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-10 02:57 PM
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2. *I* am "the base". I'm not feeling attacked. I am voting DEM.
What's the fookin' problem with people who can't do voter arithmetic?
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-10 03:06 PM
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3. Don't you worry, don't you fret. The future belongs to the progressives.

http://www.gen-we.com/sites/default/files/Greenberg%20Millennial%20Study%20Survey%20Results.pdf

A new generation is about to seize the reins of history—the Millennial generation.

Born between 1978 and 2000, the Millennials currently include 95 million young people up to 30 years of age—the biggest, most diverse, and best-educated age cohort in the history of the nation.

Self-aware and committed to generational solidarity. .Millennials do not see themselves at odds with older generations of Americans, but they do believe their generation has a unique set of experiences that set them apart.

Strongly progressive, socially tolerant, environmentally-conscious, peace-loving, and poised to lead the biggest left ward shift in recent American history.

Sober but optimistic in their assessment of the future. The Millennials worry about being the first generation in American history to be worse off than their parents—but they believe this fate can be avoided through shared effort.

Enthusiastic about the power of collective social action. Millennials don’t see government as a panacea, but they believe in its potential and want to take it back from the special interests and the power elites.

Unselfish and socially committed. The Millennials are not a “Generation Me” but rather a “Generation We.” They volunteer in record numbers and declare themselves ready to sacrifice their self-interest for the greater good.

Perhaps the most important characteristic of the Millennials is their across-the-board rejection of the country’s current leadership and dominant institutions. Whether it be Congress and the federal government, major corporations, or organized religion, these young Americans believe the large institutions that dominate modern society have comprehensively failed, placing narrow self-interests ahead of the welfare of the country as a whole. Frustrated and seeking an outlet for their innate idealism, they are eager for wholesale change. The Millennials have already begun shifting the nation’s politics. Having come of age with Washington dominated by Republicans, they leaning strongly the opposite way. Although they reject both “liberal” and “conservative” labels, they are especially scathing in their denunciation of conservatism, which they associate with hypocritical moralism, administrative incompetence, ideological rigidity, and corporate scandal.


You can thank Jon Stewart and Steve Colbert for this. The Generation We are their biggest viewers. More than any other news related shows on TV.

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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-10 03:07 PM
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4. If the democratic base wants to elect Palin who can stop them
between the GOP and progressive voters getting behind Palin or staying home the independents can not save the country by themselves.
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-10 03:31 PM
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5. seeing as you have no idea what the base actually means...
(no, it isn't the foot stamping foamy mouthed ones) I decided to stop reading after that misfactoid.
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stranger81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-10 05:39 PM
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16. Here's a hint as to who the Democratic Party base consists of:
It's NOT everyone to the right of Russ Feingold.

The Democratic base consists of folks who traditionally vote Democratic (e.g., union members, minorities, left-of-center types), not the so-called "Reagan Democrats." If you want a right-wing party, there's already one in existence you're welcome to join. Why do so many feel the need to turn this one into Repug-Lite?????
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-10 03:32 PM
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6. Concern noted. Where are you people coming from?!
It's every voting cycle the same crappy posts start taking over this board.
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-10 03:34 PM
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7. You better keep your gubbamint job.
You'll starve as a prognosticator.
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-10 03:34 PM
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8. Thanks for all the concern. It's only the "professional left" and its groupies...
who are chronically "pissed off". The rest of us know exactly what the White House is talking about. FAIL!!!!
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-10 05:06 PM
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12. AMAZING that this pattern of posts about the pissed off pro left is flooding DU
.. much to be gained by depressing the Democrats and impacting GOTV
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-10 03:36 PM
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9. Repeating again: The president and the VP are NOT attacking me. I'm working for
and voting for the Democrats! PERIOD!!

Go Governor O'Malley!!
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littlewolf Donating Member (920 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-10 05:00 PM
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10. wayyyyy to early for 2012 .... lets get thru this year first
and as said earlier .... 25% approval rating .... not likely ..... if the repubs do ...
well ... it won't be pretty ....
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impik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-10 05:03 PM
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11. Actually, it's the whining left who will crown Palin. And again, *you* don't speak for the base
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-10 05:07 PM
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13. How in hell did a little group take that mantle for themselves
they are the base of nothing
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impik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-10 05:21 PM
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14. They have big megaphone and were able to create a narrative of failure for
the most accomplished progressive president in decades, and one of the top 3 in 100 years. It's really very sad.
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-10 05:31 PM
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15. The taste for power knows no ideology apparently
.. too many are lined up with the forces that stand for betrayal of our country AND the working class .. just hope it's a loud mouth group that doesn't hold sway on election day.
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Aramchek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-10 06:08 PM
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17. Palin will never be President. That's right, never.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-10 06:11 PM
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18. She has as much chance of winning as Lindsay Lohan does of winning an Oscar.
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akbacchus_BC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 01:45 AM
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19. Who the fuck are you? Dancing with the stars?
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 02:01 AM
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20. It's not Palin or her ilk anyone should be worried about
It's the ostensibly moderate and ostensibly competent Republican that has a shot in 2012.
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smalll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 02:48 AM
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21. Well, maybe the DLC are secret Leninists --
"the worse, the better."

:shrug:
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DemocraticPilgrim Donating Member (472 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 04:17 AM
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22. At this rate I think we might get O'Donnell running anything is possible with the GOP.
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