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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 12:56 PM
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Dole leads Clinton in March 1995 TIME poll...
Edited on Fri Jul-16-10 12:56 PM by Drunken Irishman
Remember, TIME recently had Palin getting her butt kicked by Obama (a 20-plus spread).

But this poll is interesting.

Interesting because while it was still a year out from the election - Clinton was not entirely unpopular and still losing.



  1. Clinton's job rating stands at 50% approve and 45% disapprove.
  2. Forty-seven percent approve of Clinton's handling of the economy, the same as in January.
  3. In head-to head match-ups, the poll finds Dole would best Clinton 52% to 44% among all registered voters


We know how that election turned out.

At 50% approval, Clinton was losing a hypothetical race to Dole by eight points. Just puts things into perspective, eh?

It seems, even with average approval numbers, Pres. Obama either bests or barely loses in some of these hypothetical polls.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 12:59 PM
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1. True, but it's July and mid-term.
Obama's not up this year.
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 01:03 PM
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4. Only two presidents since Nixon have had a +50% approval rating in Oct. of a mid-term in 1st term...
Edited on Fri Jul-16-10 01:03 PM by Drunken Irishman
And they were both Bushes.

The rest didn't.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 01:05 PM
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5. I'm pretty confident that no one on the R. side can compete with Obama...
...for the presidency. My real concern is losing the majority in the House or the near super-majority in the Senate.
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 01:07 PM
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7. We'll probably lose a super-majority, but I'm coming around to us keeping the House.
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 01:01 PM
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2. Dole was a much stronger candidate than Moosilini. nt
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 01:03 PM
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3. You mean Newt Gingrich won't win in 2012?!
What really makes me laugh is how all over the place these polls are. PPP shows Gingrich leading the pack but Gallup shows Palin leading among Repubs. Who knows? Did anyone think Obama was going to be the nominee a few years before 2008?
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 01:06 PM
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6. Also, I believe this fits into what I've thought for a while now...
The ideal other candidate looks better early on, even if the president is somewhat liked.

That doesn't always stick, though.

In 1983, Mondale was besting Reagan.

Sometimes that doesn't happen (1991, Bush led all Democrats), but it is a common theme. Incumbent presidents don't really get the incumbent bounce until the campaign starts.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-17-10 01:21 AM
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11. It's like I've been saying--the strongest candidate the Republicans have right now
is named Generic Republican.

Once "Generic Republican" gets replaced with ACTUAL Republicans, they start running into trouble.
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 01:13 PM
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8. ''Bob Dole likes this poll.'' - Bob Dole (R-Boner Pill) nt
Edited on Fri Jul-16-10 01:15 PM by Guy Whitey Corngood
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Ter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 03:04 PM
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9. Dole was the most sane Republican nominee in decades
He would have been better than both Bushes, and McCain. Hmm, had he won in 1996, and if he was re-elected in 2000, maybe no wars? I think he would have kept the Clinton line, tough on Iraq, maybe air strike if they get out of line, but no wars.
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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 09:06 PM
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10. interesting
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Ross K Donating Member (288 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-17-10 01:24 AM
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12. 27 months and three weeks
Speak to me not of polls.
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