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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-10 08:36 AM
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Liz Fowler is the worst person in the world and why there is no PO
Hello Friends.

President Obama has betrayed us all.

The world is coming to an end.

Also, we should all vote Republican or for Ralph Nader.

because that will do a lot of good. And attacking and thinking ill of

President Obama is very rational. And constructive.

more below the fold.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2010/7/15/884431/-Liz-Fowler-is-the-worst-person-in-the-world-and-why-there-is-no-PO-
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-10 09:14 AM
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1. snarf!
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-10 10:07 AM
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2. Oh give her slack she is sucking up to her father to be sure
she gets a little more than her share of that fortune he got by his trickle down effect by giving Halliburton all those no bid contracts.
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Raine1967 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-10 10:20 AM
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3. I love that the person turned strawman into a mathematical debate -
Edited on Thu Jul-15-10 10:22 AM by Raine1967
and strawman FAILS


Ultimately I think is is probable to say that David Sirota hates all government, based on these mathematical equations.

Therefore, one can conclude that David sirota is no better than Grover Norquist. They both hate government.

K&R for a great post to a great diary. Thanks for this.

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This is as close as we can get to the conclusion of the syllogism by David Sirota.

Clearly, this is a telling indictment of the health care law itself, strongly suggesting that it was constructed by the Obama administration - as some progressives argued - as a massive taxpayer-financed giveaway to private insurers like Wellpoint.

Liz Fowler did not think that the public option could pass.
Liz Fowler worked for Well Point recently.
Therefore
a. Liz Fowler will attempt to apply and interpret the health care reform act in as corporate friendly manner as possible
b. The health care reform act makes health care in America worse than if it had not passed.
c. The Obama administration, and clearly President Obama, himself wants to do whatever he can to help corporations even if it hurts most ordinary Americans.

This syllogism is a fail. I will simply say that axioms 1 and 2 in now way necessarily imply 3a or 3b or 3c. We could put a truth table to represent the fail of the syllogism if we so desired. But it is enough to say that propositions 1 and 2 can both be true and propositions 3a and 3b and 3c can all be false.
The reason there is not a public option is not because of Liz Fowler, nor because of Max Baucus, nor is it because of President Obama. It failed because of: Joe Lieberman, Ben Nelson, Mary Landrieu, and Blanche Lincoln. We saw this when they opposed even the opt out. It failed because these Democratic Senators were willing to filibuster Democratic, popular legislation.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-10 02:11 PM
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11. Hear hear!
:hi:
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-10 10:24 AM
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4. dupe flamebait
same old attacks on Obama critics.
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spiritual_gunfighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-10 10:29 AM
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5. +1
Dont you know that the problem isnt hiring someone from Wellpoint to expedite your health care bill. The problem isnt that you have

hired someone who was instrumental in killing the public option, the only way for true reform of the system.

The problem is that you aren't falling in line and sucking it up for the Democrats and President Obama!

What do you want a President Palin?
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-10 02:12 PM
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12. +2!
;)
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Raine1967 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-10 09:32 PM
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13. Actually it wasn't.
It was a response to a strawman debate that Sirota used.

And it was quite logical.

It was not an attack at all -- unless people believe that responding to critics of the president are nothing more than attacks. If that is the case -- then it's a far more serious problem.

If people want to be critical of the president, then they should be ready for at the very least -- a little pushback.

I personally won't shut up when people like Sirota use strawman arguments-- and no one else should either.
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JTFrog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-10 10:40 AM
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6. K&R
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-10 10:43 AM
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7. at least they can discuss it over there...
I find it hard to keep track of the banned words and concepts here.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-10 01:21 PM
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8. oh noes! teh censorship!!11!!
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-10 10:11 PM
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14. LMAO...
well said :applause:

Sid
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-10 01:23 PM
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9. Oh noes an ignored booger
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newtothegame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-10 01:57 PM
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10. Obama is God. nt
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