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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-10 10:10 PM
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Republicans are never held accountable or responsible for anything til way too late!
Why don't we dog them like they are a bone?
It's like they are so bad, we overlook them,
and instead go after our own.

I just hope that in November, since they are the alternative,
they don't get back in a place where they get to exert power,
and really fuck us up, as we know that they will escape all
accountability and responsibility like always.

I don't think we've seen just how terrible, mean, thoughtless,
ruthless, discriminatory, power hungry, arrogant,
insincere, lying, lazy, superficial, greedy, and out of control
they can really be.

Worse of all, I don't want to even imagine the likes of Limbaugh, Palin
and Fox and Friends strutting around gloating. I really just don't.
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-10 10:15 PM
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1. It doesn't make any sense I agree.
There are so many issues the Democrats could have ran with, and the Republicans would be done, but I think they are working together making deals about who runs against who in elections, who would throw an election here or there, while still maintaining much of the status quo.

I would guess many people that end up running in elections throw the elections, and only got there to help the person in other party, some of that could be planned in exchange for supporting different groups.

While in the news and in speeches people tell different stories. I have seen a few politicians that it really seems they threw the election. And it would be guessed that is some pay off for some back room deals.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-10 10:18 PM
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2. Interesting premise.
So why does the media act so benevolent to the GOP point of view?
Seems like whatever the Pub talking points are, that's becomes the next day's
headline. Why is that?
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-10 10:44 PM
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3. Right wingers own the media
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Joe Bacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-10 10:56 PM
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5. Who owns the press?
Look and see who owns the Whore Press, you'll find the answer!
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-10 11:57 PM
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6. They need gridlock, and the Repubs are in a disadvantaged position.
So they trying to help them.

It is actually a good thing, it is how it works, they are trying to maintain a system, and have to strap themselves to the Repubs, and it hurts them also. They think they can get them back to enough seats to cover for many centrist Democrats. The worst thing for someone faking actually wanting to do what people want, is to be seen to have the power to be able to do it.

Then when they vote against peoples interest, they have no excuses.

Although it actually is to finish off their credibility to fix the media systems, that's my best guess on it.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 04:53 PM
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7. They want their tax breaks maintained.
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-10 10:52 PM
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4. The Reich owns the media and Democrats cut deals, looks forward, and finds "middle ground"
That leaves both the refs and the opposition looking the other way or helping escort them into the end zone.
There is no one of standing to hold them accountable. We're left to cheer or throw shit like Eagles fans but the shady, fixed game continues.

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anobserver2 Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 04:58 PM
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8. upcoming theft of 2012 election
Many reasons lead me to think that Jeb Bush is planning to steal the 2012 election.
I recently created a one-page work of art about it. The ten links on the right side are real headlines.

Here is my work of art:
http://www.thebushfamilyplaybook.blogspot.com
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anobserver2 Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 07:07 PM
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9. PS
Also - re my above post:

1) Why is no media reporting that this fake was employed at the a Tier One Research university,
which is also the home to the GW Bush Library?

2) Why is no media reporting that you can easily google this guy Kemos and find out that in 2007
he was presented by GW Bush to China in a conference at Washington DC?

3) Why is no media reporting that this fake expert was presented by a president to a foreign government?
I think that is a terrible thing that happened. We have real experts. Why does the president
need a fake expert?

4) This fake was firing people at Texas A&M. I think it is a legitimate question to ask --
was he there to purge people for political reasons, if the professor was too "liberal" for this
public university?

5) This fake resides in Kennebunkport Maine according to information publicly available
at zabasearch.com Does that mean this fake knows both GW Bush and GH Bush? In light of that,
I think it is an extremely legitimate question to ask if his fake employment at TAMU was
in preparation for a political run as Jeb's VP.

But no asks this question.

Before you know it, we will have a fake Bush presidency all over again because:
white collar crime is only prosecuted when it is committed by The Little People.

I read this morning a woman got arrested for parking in a handicap spot. But a fake stealing
$300,000 at TAMU gets to resign to 'spend more time with his family.' It's not right.

It's also not right that students there were "mentored" by this fake Navy SEAL.

Not right. Where is the rule of law in this country? Is it coming soon for this fake? I hope so.

A 23 year old kid named Adam Wheeler is now facing prosecution on 20 criminal counts and 50
years in prison for allegedly faking his way into Harvard and stealing $45,000 in financial aid money and
award money.

Does the higer education role model Alex Kemos -- who faked his way into Texas A&M with two fake advanced degrees and
a fake Navy SEAL resume paragraph of fiction who got $300,000 face anywhere near what student Wheeler is facing?
Or does Kemos just return to Kennebunkport and become a venture capitalist, as his linked in page currently shows?
Where is the justice? Just wondering.



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anobserver2 Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 08:39 PM
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10. Re New complex at NDN
More thoughts = continued from above --

6) Here is an email dialogue I just had with the reporter from St Pete times --

My initial query --

From: (anobserver2)

To: [email protected]
Date: 07/06/2010 06:51 PM
Subject: query re "Only 1,100 jobs for $1.5 billion? Florida's biotech cluster won't come cheap" By Robert Trigaux

Dear Mr. Trigaux:

Regarding your January 2010 article:
"Only 1,100 jobs for $1.5 billion? Florida's biotech cluster won't come cheap"

By Robert Trigaux, Times Business Columnist
In Print: Thursday, January 28, 2010

and specifically, what you wrote therein:


"If Jeb had not secretly and on his own pitched Scripps Research in California to open a facility in Florida … And if Jeb did not have $310 million in funds in 2003 to entice Scripps with ..."

My questions to you is this: In light of all the discussion about should tax dollars ever help media companies

(such as newspapers on the brink of financial collapse), what law allows Jeb Bush to give a media newspaper company like Scripps

$310 million in taxpayer money, as you reported? Do you think the reason he "secretly" did this "on his own" is because he knew it

was illegal? I ask you this politely, and the reason I ask is because I lived in a FL town that has a Scripps owned newspaper, and I

can tell you firsthand it will not do any investigative reporting and it constantly violates the state's deceptive acts & practices law.

In short, it is as if Jeb bought himself a newspaper, too.

What do you think?



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His response:

----------------
from [email protected]
to (anobserver2)
date Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 6:57 PM
subject Re: query re "Only 1,100 jobs for $1.5 billion? Florida's biotech cluster won't come cheap" By Robert Trigaux
mailed-by sptimes.com

Jul 6 (2 days ago)

Hi. Let me clarify. The "Scripps" in question is the Scripps Research Institute, a California-based biotech research business (came out of Stanford University). Here is the website:

http://www.scripps.edu/e_index.html

It is not related to the E.W. Scripps company that owns newspapers. As to why your newspaper lacks investigative reporting, that's another question but is certainly tied to the recession that has particularly hit newspapers.
Hope that helps.


Robert Trigaux
Business Columnist
St. Petersburg Times
727-893-8405
Venture "Inside Tampa Bay Business" blog
Visit at www.blogs.tampabay.com/venture
-----------

My response to him - 3 emails, most recent first:

from (anobserver2)
to [email protected]
date Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 7:31 PM
subject ALso - Fwd: PS - Fwd: Thanks/ Re: query re "Only 1,100 jobs for $1.5 billion? Florida's biotech cluster won't come cheap" By Robert Trigaux
mailed-by gmail.com

Jul 6 (2 days ago)


Also - if you ever want to see the kind of news the Naples Daily NEws will not report (fake public officials violating the Stolen Valor Act),
and you want to see a pattern of such conduct, in FL and TExas, see my one-page new work of art for 10 minutes here :
http://www.thebushfamilyplaybook.blogspot.com
The above link is currently posted on a texas newspaper forum, the eagle.

---------------
Begin forwarded message:

> From:
> Date: July 6, 2010 7:16:53 PM EDT
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: PS - Fwd: Thanks/ Re: query re "Only 1,100 jobs for $1.5 billion? Florida's biotech cluster won't come cheap" By Robert Trigaux
>
>
> PS Maybe Jeb took several million of the $310 million earmarked for "Scripps edu" and instead deliberately wrote a check to EW Scripps, pretending it was for the biotech lab.
> SOmething like that. A check made out to "Scripps" that was earmarked publicly for the biotech lab, but instead Jeb knew he was writing it to "Scripps" meaning EW Scripps - and he
> gave it to EW Scripps. I bet something like that happened. I really do.

------------
> Begin forwarded message:
>
>> From:
>> Date: July 6, 2010 7:12:07 PM EDT
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Thanks/ Re: query re "Only 1,100 jobs for $1.5 billion? Florida's biotech cluster won't come cheap" By Robert Trigaux
>>
>> Mr. Trigaux, I appreciate your speedy reply here and your information.
>> But I am still wondering if somehow there is some connection, or maybe there exists a financial connection not apparent because:
>>
>> Just as you mentioned, at a time when the recession hit newspaper hard, the Scripps owned Naples Daily News did the unthinkable:
>> it built an enormous, and I mean enormous, new printing and office complex for itself, costing millions and millions of dollars.
>>
>> Now, the Naples Daily News does not sell that many newspapers to begin with. How in the world it not only avoided the recession that hit every other
>> newspaper AND, on TOP of that, pulled out millions of dollars out of a hat to build this enormous new complex, remains a mystery to me.
>>
>> That's why I still think there is some connection or some other connection not known between Scripps and Jeb.
>>
>> Thanks again.
>>
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anobserver2 Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 08:43 PM
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11. Also see this thread on this matter
Also see this thread and all comments. People who care about the military can be very
sensible when the Stolen Valor Act is violated:

<http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/2549256/posts>
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anobserver2 Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 08:46 PM
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12. Eagle newspaper link to my art
Most all my comments on the Eagle and the link to my art is posted on this thread at the Eagle newspaper:
<http://www.theeagle.com/am/Loftin-details-the-betrayal-by-Kemos>
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 09:06 PM
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13. The refusal to restore accountability under the rule of law to pre-Bush norms
Edited on Thu Jul-08-10 09:06 PM by depakid
was this administration's single biggest mistake- and it's coming back to haunt everyone on issue after issue.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 10:30 PM
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14. The biggest mistake is for folks to believe that somehow
an administration who can't get a judge to agree on a drilling monatorium or an immigration issue, wasn't going to succeed in rectifying all that's wrong in this country. Like Lakeoff, some theories are just that, and sound excellent when left untested to any great measure. I've noticed that you are always there to tell everyone else what the problems are with this administration, yet you seem to have little ire for those who actually committed the crimes you speak of.

And it seems like a merrygoround, that you never tire in coming up with criticism day after day after day, while leaving the Republicans quite alone to do their schtick....them and their bought media. I don't know why you think your pile-on is helping anyone other the Republicans, because it isn't.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 10:42 PM
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15. Corruption is a pervasive deal- whether it's violations of the rules of judicial conduct
public employees on the take (whatever happened to those SEC insiders who knew about Madoff & Stanford?) or corporate criminals who walk away without being prosecuted.

Creates a culture where people think: business as usual and anything goes-

Next round of Republicans, banksters, and torturers will now be even bolder than the last.
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anobserver2 Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 12:02 AM
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16. Fake degree scandal roils Pakistani politics
Re my above posts - see this recent article from AP, as it sounds like
we are no better than Pakistan when it comes to fake degrees (only we pay more
in America) --

<http://www.statesman.com/news/nation/fake-degree-scandal-roils-pakistani-politics-776255.html?cxtype=rss_default-homepage-overlay_50318>Fake degree scandal roils Pakistani politics

ISLAMABAD — Scores of Pakistani lawmakers may lose their seats for allegedly lying about their academic credentials, a growing scandal that adds to the woes of the U.S.-backed leadership as it struggles with Islamist militancy and a weak economy.

What began as accusations against a handful of lawmakers has mushroomed into formal legal challenges against up to 160 elected officials — more than 10 percent of the country's federal and provincial legislators. Many are said to have claimed fake degrees to meet a previous requirement for holding office.

The Supreme Court has ordered the Elections Commission to vet the credentials of nearly all of the some 1,100 federal and provincial lawmakers. If enough lawmakers are found ineligible, there are rumblings that a midterm election may be needed.

The scandal has drawn some frustrated reactions from lawmakers besieged by an aggressive media.

"A degree is a degree! Whether fake or genuine, it's a degree! It makes no difference!" Baluchistan province chief minister Nawab Aslam Raisani, who claims a master's in political science, shouted at a gaggle of reporters Tuesday...
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