Notice a pattern?

[ProSense]

African-American Tea Party Republican Beats Strom Thurmond's Son In House Primary

Swing for the Bleachers


Black teabaggers winning GOP nomination?

[babylonsister]

1. Here's a pattern I notice. Black men are getting elected, albeit

due to the wingnuts. That toothpaste will never get swallowed back into that tube. So when a legitimate black man runs, there are no excuses for the wingnuts. Theoretically...

[ProSense]

2. The manipulation is disturbing.

It reminds me of when people use to prop women up in front of business to claim they were women-owned.

These people are tools, and it really doesn't say much about how people will vote when a legitimate black candidate is presented.

[arcadian]

4. Who are you to say that?

Black people can't be Republican? :eyes:

[ProSense]

7. JC Watts is a Republican

Michael Steele is a Republican. Obviously, there are black Republicans.

[arcadian]

8. Yes, I know there are black Republicans

Your post indicates that you think blacks can't really be Republicans, that they are some how dupes. Please explain that.

[ProSense]

9. No, my post doesn't n/t

[arcadian]

10. Yes it does.

"These people are tools, and it really doesn't say much about how people will vote when a legitimate black candidate is presented."

Just what is a "legitimate black candidate"? One that isn't a "tool"? You are saying that black people can't make decisions for themselves. If their decisions go against your particular way of thinking then these people are "tools" and somehow "illegitimate" Your words. You typed them.

[ProSense]

11. No, it doesn't, and I said no such things.

And, yes, IMO, teabagger candidates are tools.

[arcadian]

12. Of course you did. That is a direct quote.

Not only that but by calling black Republicans "tools", you equate these blacks with inanimate objects, property. Try to be a little more thoughtful in the future,

[ProSense]

13. They are tools.

Read: They are tools.

Black teabaggers = tools.

[arcadian]

14. So you think African Americans don't have the where with all to think for themselves.

That they are only "legitimate" when they are Democrats. Amazing. You know this is the 21st century right?

[ProSense]

15. Michael Steele = tool

Now, you can continue to defend them, but please don't try to lecture me on what is legitimate or what century this is.

[arcadian]

16. You already have it in your head

What is or is not a legitimate black politician. So, if Micheal Steele is a tool, who is using him and in what manner is he being used as a tool?

[ProSense]

17. "So, if Micheal Steele is a tool, who is using him "

Rahm.

[Nikki Stone1]

18. How is Rahm using Michael Steele?

And how is Michael Steele complicit in this?

[arcadian]

19. Please explain your post.

Is that suposed to be some kind of inside joke?

[ProSense]

21. No, but I stop taking the responses seriously.

Why are you defending teabaggers?

Just so you know, I thought Lynn Swann was a tool also. Sorry, if that upset you.

[Nikki Stone1]

22. So it was a joke answer?

?

[arcadian]

23. That's a pretty lame straw man

Are you even trying anymore? Face it, you are in a untenable position.

[ProSense]

24. "you are in a untenable position." Actually, no.

You are defending black teabaggers from my characterization of them as tools, which they are.

[arcadian]

25. I'm simply trying to get you to clarifiy your position of why you think blacks can't be rightwingers

I'm not defending anybody. Is it only blacks or is it other ethnic minorities which can't be members of the Republican party either? In your mind.

[ProSense]

26. Who said blacks can't be rightwingers? Ever heard of Alan Keyes?

What does that have to do with the fact that these black teabagger candidates are tools?

[arcadian]

27. You did. You said they were illegitimate.

Stop now before you dig yourself in further.

[ProSense]

28. No, I said they were tools. n/t

[elana i am]

38. hey if any gay person, black person or woman tells me

they're a repug *i'm* cettainly gonna question their intelligence. especially so if they're teabaggers, because they're either ignorant dupes or they are the asshats doing the duping.

[704wipes]

29. Really, any teabagger is a tool

Anyone so ignorant to go against his own self-interest = tool

[noamnety]

20. I remember seeing Glenn Singleton speak last year at a conference.

He mentioned in his talk that he'd been congratulated shortly after Obama won by a complete stranger (a white person) in an airport. He said he looked at the person and asked them "What makes you think I support Obama?!"

They were at a loss for words, obviously they couldn't say "because you're black."

The joke of it is that he is a huge Obama supporter, it was a huge HUGE deal for him. But he wasn't going to let that person off the hook for making that assumption, all the same.

[JohnnyBoots]

39. Anyone making under $500,000 a year shouldn't be a Republican.

If he makes over that I can see why he would run that way....

[babylonsister]

5. I hear you. They are tools, but might be opening some doors

they don't even know about yet. I can hope. The fact that black men are getting elected in SC is a miracle imo.

Baby steps. Always baby steps.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

30. Actually, it reminds me of the Republicans who propped Clarence Thomas up as if he

is the equivalent of Thurgood Marshall. It reminds me of how Republicans propped up Ward Connerly when they needed a Negro to be against affirmative action. It reminds me of how Republicans propped up J.C. Watts when they needed a Negro to be against welfare. It reminds me of how Republicans propped up Alan Keyes when they needed a Negro to lend a voice to the so-called Moral Majority. It reminds of when Republicans propped up Armstrong Williams when they needed a Negro to be against public education and education unions. It reminds me of the Republicans who propped up Mike Steele when they needed a Negro to be the counter to President Obama.

Now they need Negroes willing to justify the Tea Baggers and help Republicans divert claims of racism. And it's disgusting!!! :puke::puke::puke:

[arcadian]

31. "Negro" Really?

You are really using that term?

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

32. Do you not understand that I'm being facetious? I'm a black woman! Come on, now.

If you can't detect sarcasm and context, then I can't help you.

ProSense knows what I mean.

[arcadian]

33. Interesting

How does Prosense know what you mean? So you clearly think blacks can't be Republicans, that they are nothing but "tools". Why is that?

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

34. Of course, blacks can be Republicans. We are not a monolith. If you go behind my words

and think critically, I'm targeting specific black Republicans who tend to be used by the party establishment when they need a black person to push their agenda.

Honestly, do you not understand my argument? Or, are you being willfully ignorant?

And when I say that ProSense will understand what I mean, based on prior conversations on similar issues, I think he/she knows that I am being facetious when I use the word "Negro," and I'm sure that it is not debatable that the black conservatives/Republicans that I name are being used to push the general conservative political agenda.

Note: I just saw "Thurgood" at the Kennedy Center, a monologue from actor Lawrence Fishburne, and it was brilliant!! One of the lines which I'll never forget is his admonition that being black doesn't automatically mean that we all think and act alike. When LBJ propositioned Thurgood to consider becoming the first black American judge to serve on the U.S. Supreme Court, Thurgood responded by telling LBJ to choose him because he is qualified--and perhaps MORE qualified than those already serving on the bench.

When Pappy Bush was in the process of nominating Clarence Thomas, those close to Thurgood recoiled in discontent. Why would Bush appoint Clarence knowing that he's not really qualified? Knowing that he doesn't really have the the qualifications even close to that of Thurgood to serve as his successor? To them, Clarence was appointed--not because he was that qualified to serve--but because he could push a conservative agenda...and it helped that he was black.

That was my point of my initial post. There are a good number of conservative blacks--God bless them--who are willing to do the bidding of the Republican party, even if by doing so, they do a disservice to society at large. Case in point: Clarence was chosen to submit a majority opinion in the Citizens United court case that now renders corporations individuals. Oftentimes, Republicans choose black conservatives who are even MORE conservative than they are because they can count on them to push their agenda.

Don't act as if you don't know what my initial post was getting at. You're smarter than that.

[Number23]

35. Check this out and let me know your thoughts

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=258x10299

[goclark]

43. "Justice" Thomas is a Teabagger by marriage

"Mikie Steele is not hated by Teabaggers ~ if so, he would not still be there.

Condi was left alone to do whatever her Boss told her to do -- they never complained one bit and her "boyfriend" was a married man and the President of the United States.

Funny how the so called "Republicans" use those two and others like Colin to try to fake us out. Make American liberals think they like Black people.

The Rethugs don't have a problem with my people when they are doing what they need to get done. And sadly there are some of my people who sell their souls to the Evil Doers.

There are some in every race that will sell their souls.

[skipos]

3. Clayton Bigsby* was a success for the Klan

So why not?



*character from Chappelle's Show

[TheDebbieDee]

6. "White Power!"

Lol!

[boppers]

36. Teabaggers aren't just about race, they're about smashing the system.

They're kind of like primitive social anarchists with less threatening tactics and silly signs and hats.

Thus, they'll align with anybody and everybody who has reactionary, "destroy the government" arguments. Race is a sideline.

[vaberella]

37. Do you think it's a way to de-legitimize Black men's influence in politics?

In effect making them worthless for candidacy at the same time trying to sell a Black face to the Republican party that is slowly disintegrating to nonsense.

[kjackson227]

40. I'm not sure how to take this. Is this a good or bad thing?

[Bluenorthwest]

41. What is the nature of the pattern as you notice it?

Shouldn't statements posed as questions at least be complete sentences?

[jenmito]

42. Tim Scott, Black teabagger in SC, just won his election. He was backed by Sarah Palin...

and I really believe if we didn't have Obama as our Dem. president, not only would Palin not have supported this guy, but Michael Steele would never have been chosen to be head of the RNC. There ARE a very small number of minorities in the Repub. party, but they wouldn't have the support they now have. And I believe they're going against their own interests (agreeing with people like Rush who says racist things all the time). Just look how the leaders of the Repub. party talk about OBAMA "favoring" Black people, saying he was only elected because of his race. Yet they pretend people like Tim Scott and Michael Steele AREN'T? :eyes: