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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 10:38 AM
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Josh Marshall: "Republicans will rue the day they took BP's side"

It Just Ain't Right

Josh Marshall

Here's a quick list of Republicans who've called President Obama's escrow account a betrayal of American principles and otherwise defended BP from Obama tyranny.

Now, having said that I think Republicans will rue the day they took BP's side so vigorously against President Obama's efforts to set up this escrow account, I would be remiss not to note my longstanding nausea at much of what goes on at this and so many other congressional hearings where members of Congress grandstand against the guy or gal sitting in the dock over the obvious and shameful wrongness of their actions, even though the member of Congress in question often wasn't even familiar with the topic at hand until a few days before or just as often was voting more or less in support of whatever shamefully wrong action they're talking about until something went wrong.

Okay, I've said it.

Needless to say, this doesn't apply in this case to the members of Congress who've been longtime critics of the oil industry and the lax regulatory environment under which it's operated.




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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 10:41 AM
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1. Oh God - I hope so. nt
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 10:42 AM
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2. They sure will - especially if Democrats frame the situation right,
strike the right tone, and take advantage of the situation.
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 11:23 AM
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12. LOL
yes, our side is so good at framing situations.
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 12:16 PM
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13. I know, I know *sigh*
:banghead:
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 10:44 AM
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3. This oil spill could be a tremendous opportunity for Democrats.
I hope they take it. It is spear aimed at the heart of the right-wing. It deflates the "small government" talk and it distracts from their other pet issues.
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 10:45 AM
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4. And Democrats will celebrate their utter stupidity and love of big oil.
I cannot believe what I heard come out of Barton's mouth on national TV.

Boner, McConnell, what say you?

:popcorn:
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 10:45 AM
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5. That all depends on the media, if they get the word out, and if
rethugs are paying attention or being willfully ignorant, as they do.

I'm hoping Josh Marshall is right.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 10:46 AM
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6. They've said so many outrageous things over the last 2-years you would think some of this would
begin to sink in with the average American if they would just pay attention.
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blueworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 10:47 AM
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7. Not least of all because of all the little oily details they don't know yet
Last nite on Anderson Cooper, one of the Lousiana parish officials said that BP owned 20% of Correxit. Cooper promised to look into it.

Let the GOP partisan obstructionists bray on...
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 10:47 AM
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8. Buchanan saying Barton courageous for calling this a slush fund.
Oi vey.
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 10:54 AM
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10. Poor republican victims. Those big bad democrats are bashing them again.
:nopity:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 12:33 PM
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15. More like fucking stupid and btw so is she. nt
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 10:53 AM
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9. Only if Democrats take down what they say, and flog them with it mercilessly
Edited on Thu Jun-17-10 10:59 AM by kenny blankenship
If they did that all together, in a concerted party strategy, they would sweep at the polls. But if they did it would be the first time in post-Reagan political history that they were willing to portray Pukes as the hirelings of malignant corporations, and the Puke pro-business "philosophy" as the enemy of the public interest.

I wouldn't advise anyone to hold their breath waiting for Democrats to take a unified stand against Republican business ideology. The Pukes have always given us the ammunition we needed, but "we" refused to use it against them, because far too often the Democratic Party hasn't differed fundamentally in outlook and philosophy from Republicans, only differing marginally in the make up of our party constituencies.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 10:54 AM
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11. How about Obama turning everything over to BP?? How's that work for us??
Edited on Thu Jun-17-10 11:07 AM by flyarm
Like the coast guard, the national guard..our Gulf beaches, the air we breathe..the Gulf itself..the marine life, the wild life ...what hypocrites we have all become!

At the cost of our once beautiful Gulf of Mexico!


how's this working for you Josh Marshall?????????

BP is the proud new leaser of 13 of those tracts.

don't miss this little ditty!

MMS has been notorious for rubber-stamping the oil industry's plans. The lease for the well that's spewing oil into the Gulf, the Macondo, was sold in March 2008. The exploration plan for that well was granted a "categorical exclusion" from the requirements of the National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA) in April 2009, paving the way for drilling to begin.

BP is the proud new leaser of 13 of those tracts.



http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=8578275&mesg_id=8578275

Obama Administration Approves 448 New Drill Leases for Gulf of Mexico
Source: Mother Jones

At his long-awaited press conference on the Gulf oil disaster last month, President Obama announced a moratorium on new oil drilling and exploration for six months. "We can't do this stuff if we don't have confidence that we can prevent crises like this from happening again," he declared. But while existing rigs may be out of commission for the near future, the administration hasn't exactly put the brakes on new oil and gas drilling ventures. In recent weeks, the government has quietly approved the sale of more than 400 new leases for vast swaths of the Gulf of Mexico. And these contracts—which mark the first step in the drilling process—were subjected to the same slapdash environmental oversight that failed to prevent the BP catastrophe.

The region was included in a plan created by the Bush administration's Department of the Interior to lease new areas of the Gulf to the oil and gas industries. But it was Obama's Interior secretary, Ken Salazar, who gave the go-ahead for the sale of Lease 213—6,800 tracts covering 36 million acres off the coasts of Louisiana, Mississippi, and Alabama in November 2009. The sale—which was held on March 17 this year in the New Orleans Superdome—attracted $1.3 billion in bids. Since then, the Department of the Interior's Minerals Management Service (MMS) has approved the sale of 448 of those tracts, 198 of them in deepwater, which is defined as more than 656 feet below the sea. BP is the proud new leaser of 13 of those tracts.

The lease sale is the first step in the oil drilling process. Companies must first obtain the right to drill the tracts before they can devise exploration plans, which must be approved by MMS.

And that's where the problem lies. MMS has been notorious for rubber-stamping the oil industry's plans. The lease for the well that's spewing oil into the Gulf, the Macondo, was sold in March 2008. The exploration plan for that well was granted a "categorical exclusion" from the requirements of the National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA) in April 2009, paving the way for drilling to begin.

Earlier, in April 2007, MMS completed a 924-page Multisale Environmental Impact Statement for the Gulf region—covering both the site of the Deepwater disaster and these new tracts leased by the government. The statement projects that an "estimated 2-3 blowouts could occur" in the central Gulf in an average year, but significantly downplays the potential impact of a large spill. Most blowouts have a "short duration, and half of blowouts lasted less than half a day," the statement says, projecting that a large spill would only "acutely threaten recreational beaches for up to 30 days." The document also states that a large spill would only have a 23 to 25 percent risk of harming the waters of western Louisiana.


more: http://motherjones.com/environment/2010/06/new-drilling...
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 12:36 PM
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16. Wrong thread..this is about asshole republicons but you
can't give Obama credit for getting all these Billions for the Gulf Coast Residents..so you'll just insert some Propaganda shit.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 12:32 PM
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14. Is haley barbour stupid?
I read that BP would be fine..these oil people don't do things like this unless they got plenty of backup.

"Gov. Haley Barbour (R-MS) has also voiced criticism -- saying that forcing BP to pay the money now would cut into their profits, thus making it more difficult to pay more down the line. "If BP is the responsible party under the law, they're to pay for everything. I do worry that this idea of making them make a huge escrow fund is going to make it less likely that they'll pay for everything. They need their capital to drill wells. They need their capital to produce income. ... But this escrow bothers me that it's going to make them less able to pay us what they owe us. And that concerns me."

I know it's wishful thinking but it would be nice if the people of the Gulf Region would have an AHA! moment and vote for who really cares about the country and it's people.

Thanks Pro Sense this is very good information.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 12:50 PM
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17. I totally agree, there is simply no justification for their betrayal of the American People's
best interests.

They've let their Republican Prime Directive of supporting corporate supremacy over the people literally drive them insane.

LBJ signed Civil Rights legislation and stated by doing so, the South had been lost for a generation, I believe the corporatist Republicans; by pulling back the curtain exposing themselves for the traitors they are, just handed the region back to good contention.

Let the greedy, dumb bastards keep yapping about poor BP.

Thanks for the thread, Prosense.
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