Flashback: On Election Eve 2004, James Carville revealed Democratic strategy to his GOP wife

[zulchzulu]

It's time to fire at the head politically at James Carville for his careless theatrics on the unfortunate Deepwater Oil Spill.



He has proven to have been DIRECTLY INVOLVED in helping George Bush "win" in 2004. Why anyone with a couple brain cells left in their cranium would even trust this traitor to the Democratic Party is utterly beyond comprehension.

On page 344, Woodward describes the doings at the White House in the early morning hours of Wednesday, the day after the '04 election.

Apparently, Kerry had decided not to concede. There were 250,000 outstanding ballots in Ohio.

So Kerry decides to fight. In fact, he considers going to Ohio to camp out with his voters until there is a recount. This is the last thing the White House needs, especially after Florida 2000.

So what happened?

James Carville gets on the phone with his wife, Mary Matalin, who is at the White House with Bush.

"Carville told her he had some inside news. The Kerry campaign was going to challenge the provisional ballots in Ohio -- perhaps up to 250,000 of them. 'I don't agree with it, Carville said. I'm just telling you that's what they're talking about.'

"Matalin went to Cheney to report...You better tell the President Cheney told her."

Matalin does, advising Bush that "somebody in authority needed to get in touch with J. Kenneth Blackwell, the Republican Secretary of State in Ohio who would be in charge of any challenge to the provisional votes." An SOS goes out to Blackwell.


A very happy Blackwell in middle of photo next to Sean Hannity

The rest is history.

http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/2006/10/07/did_carville_tip_bush_off_to_k/

I could go on. Watch Howard Dean SKEWER James Carville for trying to trash him for not doing a "good job" as DNC chairman when he helped the Democrats win a lot in 2006:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qfX28_5FSc


James Carville's wife Mary Matalin (next to Cheney) helping Cheney figure out how to lie about illegal wars

So should we trust James Carville, who has helped George Bush and had a problem with the Democrats under Howard Dean's leadership that did well in 2006?

One might forget how James Carville essentially called Bill Richardson a traitor for endorsing Barack Obama:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/28/AR2008032802826.html?hpid=opinionsbox1

I welcome any sane answer from people who still actually think that James Carville, married to Dick Cheney's advisor, is on the Democratic Party's side... or is even RELEVANT.

Additionally, I'd love a reporter ask Carville about the 2004 election eve turncoat event just to see him turn into a overboiled mudpuppy on camera.

[FrenchieCat]

1. I don't care what anyone says, they make the bestest couple.....

cause they deserve each other.

Plus, I can't understand a thing he is saying half of the time,
and he looks mean like her the other half.

Mr. Puma might think some have a short memory, but I'll always remember his shoes
at the convention......that and that mean look he sports, like he don't even want to be
bothered.

But then, he's on CNN, so why should I expect anything more than something oogly to
be on that screen 24/7.

[zulchzulu]

10. I used to like Jimmy and even met him in Iowa the night Kerry won

He was an asshole then.

I was doing some video of the event in Des Moines the night Kerry won at the Hotel Fort Des Moines where the victory after-party was. I was walking around the media room with my video camera and recording the shocked media pundits and others walking around in the media room.

I walk up to James Carville and he gives me the signature smirk and asked me who the hell I was and why I was there. I essentially told him to fuck off and walked around him recording the moment. He dogged me like some drunk, which he was.

Seeing that I had enough footage and went over to the main room where Kerry and others were about to go on stage, I saw Carville essentially giving the finger and yelling at me for some reason. He was trashed.

It was one bizarre evening.

As for his commentary with his wife, it's entertaining in the same way watching a car accident in slow motion is.

[karynnj]

18. Fascinating account

I always wondered if the pundits were as shocked as they seemed.

The results weren't that surprising to me just based on what could be seen reading the Des Moines register and watching cable the last week. I have never in my life seen a more real, compelling election moment that the reunion of Rassman and Kerry in the last week before that primary. (It was almost like something more out of a Kapra movie of an earlier time than the more cynical nation we became in the 1980s and beyond.) The tracking polls in that last week moved up every day Kerry - as they are a smoothed average, it seemed clear that he was likely higher than the last data point - which had him ahead.

Yet in the run up, I really heard NO pundit suggest a Kerry win was likely. At the time, it struck me as odd - so I wondered if they were intentionally misleading because they were trying to push the others - as some people are influenced by who they think will win.
(It still stuns me that none of the pundits reacted as I did to the reunion of Kerry and Rassman)

[saltpoint]

2. James Carville and his irrationally Republican wife are the archangels of

unholy alliances in a Constitutional republic.

To hell with both of them.

[Political Tiger]

3. James Carville is a kinder, gentler Dick Morris. n/t

[Sebastian Doyle]

13. If Mary Matalin was the only available alternative

I'd probably go with a prostitute's toes too.

[rury]

21. And don't forget that Dick Morris once

worked for Bill Clinton until he got caught sucking a prostitute's toes.

[tabatha]

4. Never!

[Cha]

5. I can just hear them plotting..

"I think I'll go on tv and rage on Obama to get his ass down here"`..too bad he didn't have any facts on hand.

[depakid]

6. I'm cutting Carville a lot of slack since this is despoiling his home turf

Otherwise, I agree that Carville is a tool- he couldn't care less about most anything except "the game" and making money from it.

[karynnj]

19. Home or not - it doesn't justify his outbursts

You know if Bill Clinton was in the White House, he would not be saying these things.

[bluestateguy]

7. It should be clear to all of us now

Carville doesn't think that any Democrat who is not named Clinton should ever be president.

[rury]

20. Carville WANTED Bush to "win" in 2004

because he did not want an incumbent Democratic President John Kerry to be in Hillary Clinton's way in 2008.
His devotion to the Clinton brand trumps his party loyalty, his concern for the nation and the welfare of its people.
He still cannot accept that President Barack Obama beat the vaunted Clinton machine and is now governing the nation and leading the Democrats.
I prefer that Carville and his ilk sit down and be quiet.

[w4rma]

8. Clinton brought a lot of traitors and backstabbers into Democratic politics, didn't he? (nt)

[nevergiveup]

9. There have only been a half dozen times in the past 45 years

that I wanted to be a Republican and each of those times was while listening to and watching James Carville.

[Cha]

11. Here's a vid of matalin on drilling before the tragic accident..

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x468916

[Jennicut]

12. Don't forget his actions in Bolivia, his calling Bill Richardson a "Judas".

It goes on and on. Screw James Carville. Donna Brazille I can take seriously. She seems a decent person. Carville is pretty disgusting.

[zulchzulu]

15. I added a link about the Richardson story n/t

[Jennicut]

16. Thanks!

[JaneQPublic]

14. He never should have taken that waste can off his head.

[zulchzulu]

17. If you unrec this, have the courage to tell us why we should hide the truth

I doubt anyone who unrec's this has a drop of courage in their blood to tell us why we should trust Carville/Matalin/Cheney/BP/Bush policies and turncoat tactics.

Perhaps I expect too much from filthy cowards.

[patrice]

22. Didn't he also wear a rather conspicuous pair of Pumas out and about during the

Florida delegate struggle in 2008?

[Political Tiger]

24. And he did the same thing at the Democratic Convention in Denver

Left-wing talking head and former Bill Clinton campaign strategist James Carville was spotted wearing Puma sneakers off camera while he told CNN on Monday evening that he was unimpressed with the convention, saying, "If this party has a message, it's done a hell of a job hiding it tonight, I promise you that." Known for being sporty yet fashionable, Pumas are of course also associated with supporters of Hillary Clinton who do not support Barack Obama (Party Unity My Ass).

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/08/27/carville-wears-pumas-off_n_121782.html

[CTLawGuy]

26. how could Carville be credibly described as

"left wing"?

[patrice]

27. Check out the crude body-language too, this guy IS a piece of work & we're supposed to think he's

all noble and such because he's distressed about Louisiana.

:rofl:

If it was my state, he'd be saying "Oh well, shit happens. Forget about it and move on."

[patrice]

23. I'm kind of moderate about most things, but I hate! that guy. Pure sleaze.

[rufus dog]

25. F him and the horse he rode in on!

If anyone posts a Carville comment, Pro or Con, then he/she should reevaluate their mental health. He is a fucking moronic tool with one agenda, sucking up to his wife so he ugly ass can get some.

Sorry for being so blunt, but putting any weight behind what James says is friggen asinine.

[Odin2005]

28. Typical "Southern Democrat" DINO!

[Kingofalldems]

29. K and R to counter the freeper un-reccers

[SemiCharmedQuark]

30. I like Bill Hader's James Carville

[WI_DEM]

31. I haven't trusted the man for years. Nothing but a political opportunist who can't speak clearly.

[WeDidIt]

32. His Right High and Mightiness, Lord Regus Douchenozzle Carville. n/t