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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-03-10 02:01 PM
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Thank you, President Obama, for saying this today to Senate Democrats. It so needed to be said.
Middle class Americans, Obama said, "are more and more vulnerable, and they have been for the last decade, treading water. And if our response ends up being, you know, because we don't want to -- we don't want to stir things up here, we're just going to do the same thing that was being done before, then I don't know what differentiates us from the other guys. And I don't know why people would say, boy, we really want to make sure that those Democrats are in Washington fighting for us."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/03/obama-calls-out-conservat_n_447697.html

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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-03-10 02:03 PM
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1. Yes. The Dems need to differentiate. Now, why doesn't Lincoln and
the rest of the conservadems get that?
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-03-10 02:21 PM
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2. Is it that they don't get it or that they're grandstanding for votes?
Either way is bad, IMO, since the result is just to perpetuate the stupidity of the conservadems in their states. And if they get it and aren't trying to educate their constituencies, then they're just lazy and stupid. That's unforgiveable.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 06:20 AM
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10. Blanche is grandstanding for votes and she's getting her ass kicked
Edited on Thu Feb-04-10 06:23 AM by Hippo_Tron
Part of the problem, IMO, is that she hasn't given people enough reason to vote for her because she's too busy running to the middle. As I've just said on the other thread the state voted 60/40 for McCain and a lot of that is understandable. But becoming a Republican isn't going to win you an election in a red state if you have a D next to your name. Even if your voting record is impeccably conservative, your opponent will just run ads with you and Nancy Pelosi and you won't win.

What you have to do is find issues on which you differ with the Republicans that will be popular and make the race about those issues. Lincoln hasn't done that. Furthermore she's not particularly personable it seems.

We actually saw Scott Brown do this pretty effectively in the last campaign. Coakley (when she finally showed up) tried to make the race about abortion and emergency contraception because she knew those were losing issues in a liberal state for even a pro-choice Republican. Brown made it about terrorism and fiscal discipline, issues that you can sell to a lot of independent voters in a big state. He stated very explicitly that he was pro-choice but then tried to divert attention to something else because if the debate remained about abortion for long enough people would've remembered that he belongs to the anti-choice party.
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-03-10 02:24 PM
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3. I wish he had made that point to his financial advisors (Summers, Geitner)
when they were dumping buckets of cash all over the Wall Street pigs.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-03-10 04:11 PM
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5. Amen!
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 01:26 PM
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14. Not just Summers & Geithner.


The DLC New Team
Liberal Democrats Need NOT Apply

(Screen Capped from the DLC Website)
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Hawkowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-03-10 03:03 PM
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4. Yay!!
Maybe the President is finding his true voice? I'm almost beginning to hope again.
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-03-10 04:14 PM
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6. Reading this made me think of Chris Dodd.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-03-10 04:16 PM
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7. He said this in response to Blanche Lincoln's question. Too many of our Dems don't seem to get it.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-03-10 04:45 PM
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8. Ironic. Obama sounds like DU posters who've been trashing him
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 06:13 AM
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9. He needs to take his own advice. nt
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ProgressOnTheMove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 06:58 AM
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11. Yes, it was a brilliant moment and I enjoyed the Q&A way more than the republican one...
Edited on Thu Feb-04-10 07:01 AM by ProgressOnTheMove
His answers really addressed what a Democrat should be and really gave the Senators food for thought. I loved Pres. Obama's response to Bayh when he said why should folks rust on the deficit, answer we previously left behind a surplus and it's a misperception Dem's are not fiscally responsible, when they are.
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DisgustedInMN Donating Member (956 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 08:12 AM
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12. We'll see where it goes...
.. won't we? Since being advised by so many brilliant "centrists" around here, that I have been "expecting too much" and wanting the POTUS "to wave a magic wand to make thing happen," I've adopted a wait till he delivers BEFORE singing his praises, thank you very much. Talk's cheap.

"Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me."
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Blue Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 11:00 AM
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13. As loathsome as the GOP is
The blue-dog and GOP-lite Democrats deserve their share of ire lately.

:mad:
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 06:02 AM
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21. The GOP is expected to be loathesome and worthless
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LatteLibertine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 01:50 PM
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15. I don't know how anyone
who isn't a member of the most wealthy 1-10 could vote GOP.

On another note, I wish Rahm would use his brash personality to "persuade" Democrats who are balking on health care reform instead of calling Liberal supporters of President Obama who helped to put him in the White House, "F'n retards". No, I don't expect to get the ones in extremely conservative states.
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Raineyb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 02:01 PM
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16. People have been saying this forever. It's too bad the party has to wait
until it gets its ass handed to it to actually pay attention.
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grahamhgreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 02:12 PM
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17. Weak. What does it mean?
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 02:25 PM
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18. Dems must gut it up and act. Previous paragraph gives a bit more context.
"If the price of certainty is essentially for us to adopt the exact same proposals that were in place for eight years leading up to the biggest economic crisis since the Great Depression -- we don't tinker with health care, let the insurance companies do what they want, we don't put in place any insurance reforms, we don't mess with the banks, let them keep on doing what they're doing now because we don't want to stir up Wall Street -- the result is going to be the same," he said. "I don't know why we would expect a different outcome pursuing the exact same policy that got us into this fix in the first place."
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 05:57 AM
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20. I see plenty of proposals from the last 8 years continuing
war
drug war
for profit health insurance
fat cat bailouts
tourture
gitmo
war
gay rights

the more things change the more they stay the same..
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 11:30 PM
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19. Kick
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