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BluegrassDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 03:07 AM
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President Obama is gonna be tough to beat in 2012
Just sayin'
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 03:11 AM
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1. YEP. I'm glad I don't have to debate him.
spend the day picking my ass up off the floor every 35 seconds.
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LeftyAndProud60 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 03:29 AM
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4.  NT.
Edited on Sat Jan-30-10 03:30 AM by LeftyAndProud60
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LeftyAndProud60 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 03:22 AM
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2. Not if unemployment is over 10%. Just sayin. NT
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 03:26 AM
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 03:31 AM
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5. Oh no!
You must be from the Democratic wing of the Democratic party.
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 03:33 AM
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6. .
Edited on Sat Jan-30-10 03:34 AM by avaistheone1
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 03:34 AM
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7. . Just sayin'.
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LeftyAndProud60 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 03:35 AM
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8. Huh? NT
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 03:38 AM
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11. I was just agreeing with you.
Just saying~ or trying to say you are sounding like a good traditional Democrat.

That's a good thing. imo
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LeftyAndProud60 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 03:41 AM
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12. I definitely like the Obama I saw today, but he's still not going to get these people to work w/ him
unless things start to change for the better and he begins to get credit for it. I'm glad to see him focus on jobs. We have got to get the unemployment rates down.
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 10:42 AM
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18. Unemployment wont be 10% next year much less in 2012....
.... now, it might be 8% next year .... and it might be 6 or 7 in 2012 .... but one of the biggest weapons the President has in fixing the economy is time.
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 01:08 PM
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22. not everyone believes that
Edited on Sat Jan-30-10 01:09 PM by paulk
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aqLMEUObhysc&pos=2


Jan. 30 (Bloomberg) -- New York University Professor Nouriel Roubini, who anticipated the financial crisis, called the fourth quarter surge in U.S. economic growth “very dismal and poor” because it relied on temporary factors.

Roubini said more than half of the 5.7 percent expansion reported yesterday by the government was related to a replenishing of inventories and that consumption depended on monetary and fiscal stimulus. As these forces ebb, growth will slow to just 1.5 percent in the second half of 2010, he said.

“The headline number will look large and big, but actually when you dissect it, it’s very dismal and poor,” Roubini told Bloomberg Television in an interview at the World Economic Forum’s annual meeting in Davos, Switzerland. “I think we are in trouble.”

Roubini said while the world’s largest economy won’t relapse into recession, unemployment will rise from the current 10 percent, posing social and political challenges.

“It’s going to feel like a recession even if technically we’re not going to be in a recession,” he said.


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And he's been more right about this than the Obama administration, who's stimulus plan was supposed to keep unemployment below 8% last year.


ed for sp

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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 01:43 PM
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23. And what does Mr Roubini have to say...
..... about the proposed hiring tax incentives?
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 03:32 PM
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24. since he suggested such a thing back in November
Edited on Sat Jan-30-10 03:33 PM by paulk
he probably thinks it's a step in the right direction
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brooklynite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 10:57 AM
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19. Um what about the Liberal Challenger everyone was going to vote a month ago?
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 12:47 PM
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20. Like a Republican President would do anything about that?
There's no way unemployment will be that high still in 3 years. Unless the negative nellies manage to keep everyone feeling down and scared, and that'll be hard to keep up for three years. Be happy with your Brown victory.
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 03:35 AM
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9. Not if we are still engaged in wars in the Middle East - just saying.
THAT includes if we still have mercenary contractors there at $1 million dollars a head.

I think that will be a guaranteed losing proposition for Obama.
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 03:35 AM
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10. Things won't look then like they do now, for better or worse. That's a given. nt
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 05:37 AM
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13. No matter how mad I get about some of his choices
I've never even considered that we should put anyone up against him in 2012 and really, any Republican who decides to go up against him wants to commit political suicide, which means that it will be Palin and that is just gonna be too fun to watch. She's outclassed by a turnip so someone as erudite as Obama will wipe it up.
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 05:59 AM
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14. This can't be disputed. But will he have accomplished anything...
.... of significance?
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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 07:13 AM
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15. Only if he can get the GOP out of the way somehow. He hasn't been able to yet.
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Broke In Jersey Donating Member (247 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 07:33 AM
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16. I KNOW B-Rock will win in 2012
Although I have no idea what he makeup will be in Congress after that election (combined with the unknown 2010).
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Kltpzyxm Donating Member (135 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 07:49 AM
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17. That's true
Hard to beat someone who's going to get a ton of Wall St $$$$$$

Banksters of the world, unite!
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 12:50 PM
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21. That SCOTUS ruling could means 10's of billions for the republican candidate and that
worries me.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 11:39 PM
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25. Especially if "You Betcha" runs for Pres. I can't wait.
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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 10:42 AM
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26. Almost all incumbent Presidents are. nt
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liberalpragmatist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 05:02 PM
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27. Yeah, only once since 1896 has a party held the WH for just one consecutive term
That was Jimmy Carter from 1977-1981. Otherwise, the US public typically gives the incumbent party the White House for at least two terms.

That isn't to say Obama can't lose reelection. Nor is it to say that his presidency could be drastically changed by this year's midterms. If Republicans retake both houses or even just one house, Obama becomes Clinton-redux. He can win reelection, but it'll be on the back of a (better) economy and the lack of a strong Republican opponent. And yes, if the unemployment rate stays at 10% and people are angry, Obama *could* lose even against a weak opponent like Romney.

Still, I think whatever happens in 2010 - and certainly I'm hoping Republicans don't capture either house - Obama is probably favored for reelection in 2012.

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