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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-28-10 11:39 PM
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Poll question: Do You Think Samuel Alito SHould Apologize For His Inappropriate Behavior
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-28-10 11:48 PM
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1. What would that accomplish except...
to seal the fate of any poor bloke with a case before the court that Alito deems at all to be a likely liberal or whose case which might benefit social justice..? He's already shown himself to be an arrogant vindictive biased-as-hell asshole.
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timeforpeace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 07:03 PM
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39. Plus most analyses agree that he was right and Obama, well, not so right.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-28-10 11:51 PM
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2. Never would happen tho.
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housewolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-28-10 11:52 PM
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3. No. I don't agree with him but I don't think he did anything he needs to apologize for
I think his opinion is wrong, but he has a right to his opinion. He didn't yell it out or cause a disruption. I think he has a right to make a comment to himself or whoever was sitting near him. I'll guarantee you he didn't know that the camera happened to be focused on where he was sitting at that moment (and I'd guess that this incident makes it even more unlikely that we'll see cameras in the Supreme Court in my lifetime!). I'm neither a fan nor a supporter of him, I disagree with most of his decisions, but I don't think he did anything wrong.

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cherokeeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-28-10 11:57 PM
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5. Imagine the day when cameras can read minds, and put little thought bubbles above peoples' heads...
DU will literally explode the first time someone on the left side of the chamber has a thought bubble that says "bullshit" when a Dem President is giving his SOTU address.

Re Alito: No apology necessary. You said exactly what I was thinking... "He didn't yell it out or cause a disruption."
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WillParkinson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 12:22 AM
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6. Sadly I agree with you...
100%.
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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-28-10 11:56 PM
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4. Apologize to whom?
He knows what his ethical obligations are and obviously couldn't care less. The less judges say in public the better, and some insincere public apology would accomplish nothing.
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 01:04 AM
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7. He should resign immediately!
I can dream can't I
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 01:22 AM
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8. No (nt)
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Parker CA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 01:29 AM
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9. Nope. It would be forced and would carry no real meaning. Just BS. Let him rot in displeasure.
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DFLforever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 01:29 AM
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10. No. His decision not his comment is the real offense imo.
An apology won't rectify that.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 03:26 AM
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11. For silently expressing an opinion?
What police state do the "yes" voters want to live in?
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Ter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 04:26 AM
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12. No
And neither should Obama for calling them out.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 04:31 AM
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13. He could recuse himself for any cases involving the new president and laws he signs.
Edited on Fri Jan-29-10 04:34 AM by TexasObserver
I think I like that better.

No Alito on any case involving the executive branch, or any law the president signs.

A judge must avoid even the appearance of impropriety. The Justice Department should move to have Alito recuse himself for any case involving the executive branch post January 20, 2009, on the grounds that he called the president a "liar."
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 12:47 PM
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 02:39 PM
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24. You need to leave this discussion to those who understand it.
Edited on Fri Jan-29-10 02:40 PM by TexasObserver
The Supreme Court DOES have to follow ethical rules, of which you are clearly clueless. One such rule is that a judge may not sit on a case in which he has a conflict, or one in which he has bias against a party. Because the president is the executive, because his agencies and his AG appear in the Supreme Court, because the laws he signs come before the court, it is highly inappropriate for a sitting justice to act like he's on Sean Hannity's show as a GOP hack. He should recuse himself from any case in which his personal animus toward a litigant could interfere with either his judgment or could create the appearance of impropriety.

It is common practice for attorneys for parties to move for judges to recuse themselves. If you knew ANYTHING about this topic, you'd know that judges on the Supreme Court do recuse themselves from certain decisions, particularly where they have history with any of the parties.

The fact that Alito could not control himself, and that he responded verbally and identifiably to the president's statement with "that's not true," means he doesn't possess the requisite judicial temperment to sit on the court on any matter.

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 02:46 PM
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 02:57 PM
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28. Like you would know the standard or understand it.
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 04:42 AM
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14. hell no. i can't believe the overreaction. nt
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lib_wit_it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 05:37 AM
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15. No, but a few good comedians should mock how it would be demanded if the parties were reversed.
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TexasProgresive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 07:26 AM
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16. Yes, and apoligize for being an extremely biased justice
Resigning would be good, too.
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Politicub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 07:36 AM
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17. His conduct is unbecoming of a justice on the SOTU - he should resign
Edited on Fri Jan-29-10 07:37 AM by Politicub
immediately.
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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 08:02 AM
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19. You are kidding, right? n/t
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Politicub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 10:33 AM
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21. Nope - you're kidding about being an appologist for Alito, right?
You must be using sarcasm, no?
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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 04:26 PM
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32. No, no sarcasm
and not thinking that muttering under one's breath makes for an impeachable offense does not make me an apologist. Just rational.

Incidentaly, I had tears in my eyes when Alito was confirmed in spite of Kerry's abnd Kennedy's brave attempt to filibuster him.
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Politicub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 08:37 AM
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40. Enjoy your time defending the miserable, nasty fuck Alito
I have better things to do than be his apologist or debate with them.
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Ter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 04:45 PM
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33. He's untouchable and he knows it
He could have given the finger and no one could do anything.
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 07:50 AM
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18. I'll accept his resignation in lieu of an apology. n/t
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 02:51 PM
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26. I'd rather he resign for being an activist judge
he's totally screwn American democracy.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 10:06 AM
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20. I'll give him a pass if he apologizes for his vote on campaign finance.
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 11:00 AM
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22. No, he should apologize for wasting a seat on the Supreme Court.
There was plenty of ammunition during his confirmation hearings, that he was a corrupt piece of shit judge back then.

If anything, Congress owes us an apology for confirming him. And Scalia. And Roberts. And Thomas. I'll give Kennedy a pass. He votes right on occasion.
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ellie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 02:53 PM
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27. Yes, he is a disgrace
and he should resign. Let's make that a meme.
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 04:18 PM
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30. Yes.
He should be held to the highest standard given he is a Supreme Court Justice.
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cleveramerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 04:20 PM
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31. Of course he disagreed
even if he sat stonefaced we all would know.
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secondwind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 05:06 PM
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34. No. He was just very un-Supreme Court Justice-like. His behavior was inappropriate.
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 06:27 PM
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35. I think he should resign
on the grounds that he was nominated by someone who had no legitimate authority to do so. Same with Opie Roberts (who wasn't remotely qualified to judge a fucking junior high beauty pageant.)
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 06:32 PM
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36. He revealed IGNORANCE and should RETIRE
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harkadog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 06:42 PM
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37. Tempest in a teapot.
Edited on Fri Jan-29-10 07:17 PM by harkadog
If a camera had not been aimed at him no one at the SOTU or in the U.S. would even known what he had done. If cameras had been focused on the hundreds of others in that room god knows the type of shit we would have seen. (I am not even counting the pictures of Cabinet members sleeping). BTW how come no one is complaining about the House member who shouted "Do Something" at Senate members during the SOTU. I think that was inappropriate. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704878904575031530489220388.html
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 06:46 PM
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38. No
There's not much there other than good television.
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 08:47 AM
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41. No...
for a couple of reasons...First, he showed himself to be a jughead; Second, it's his opinion, (albeit one that affects the nation); Third, and most importantly, it would open a door that would give the notion PO should apologize to the SCotUS for the precedent of using the Presidential Platform for calling them out.
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DailyGrind51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 11:01 AM
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42. I would prefer that he apologize for his rulings!
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