The Fucking Teabaggers, the Media, Rush and Boehner, et al are all Laughing their asses off!

[FrenchieCat]

Cause while we were busy tearing each other apart,
their asses were working it.

That is all.

[Lilyeye]

1. Yup!

[treestar]

2. so is half of DU

I can hear the smugness on the horizon now

[firedupdem]

7. +1 yup...they are loving it. n/t

[Cha]

16. Let 'em yuk..

brown has two years to prove he's worthy of a Senate seat in Mass and then in 2012 we'll see how he did.

[Sanity Claws]

3. Fuck 'em all

I am just so pissed.

[Kaleva]

4. Divide and conquer.

[FrenchieCat]

9. yep....simple and straightforward.....

it ain't even chess.

They know Democrats better than we know ourselves.

[lxlxlxl]

5. agree...although they do get a free pass to run their agenda if a dem is in the WH

[firedupdem]

You got it!

Anything to bring obama down a notch or two

Stupid.

[Codeine]

13. Most of DU had the same philosophy.

The Purity Pricks honestly believe that Mass electing a Republican senator is a cry for more Progressive political action. Nuts.

[FrenchieCat]

18. It won't be till we lose our majority that they will get it.....

that things aren't simple,
and the media is all up in there....
and there aren't on our side,
sorry to say.

[rufus dog]

42. nope you are wrong

when the majority is lost they will just continue to bitch.

[treestar]

25. Can you believe those idiots?

Yeah, like when we want things to go left, we elect a Repuke!

A fucking repuke.

[high density]

6. Well they all won tonight so I guess they can have a good laugh at us

When is my party going to get its head out of its ass?

[quantass]

8. Not sure how losing a seat hurts...we never accomplished anything with 60 in the first place.

:shrug:

Maybe now the party will get off their ass and do things like reconciliation to get things done instead of looking to excuses.
If they see this and mistakenly try to go even more right then they will be finished this year...and they deserved it.
Their losing tonite i hope will make them start working for the people.

[FrenchieCat]

12. It's the psychology of it all.......

You know they are laughing, right?

They were doing their homework and strategizing,
and we were nitpicking and dissing.

[LooseWilly]

41. "and we were nitpicking and dissing." ?... You echo Rahm Emanuel now...

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2009/12/18/rahm-emanuel-dont-worry-about-the-left/

“There are no liberals left to get” in the Senate, Emanuel said in an interview, shrugging off some noise from the likes of Sen. Bernie Sanders (I., Vt.) that a few liberals might bolt over the compromises made with conservative Democrats.

...

“I don’t think the White House recognizes how much trouble they’re in,” said one former Democratic official this morning. “I think they’re miscalaculating what’s happening with progressives and the left. They feel like they’re being taken for granted.”

And that's the response that those who try to hold the White House accountable to the platform that they wrote for themselves... the policy they argued for on the campaign trail... the reaction is to "shrug off some noise from the likes of..."?

And then there's a little analysis by the Coakley campaigners
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34923900/ns/politics-capito...

Even before the first results were announced, administration officials were privately accusing Coakley of a poorly run campaign and playing down the notion that Obama or a toxic political landscape had much to do with the outcome.

Coakley's supporters, in turn, blamed that very environment, saying her lead dropped significantly after the Senate passed health care reform shortly before Christmas and after the Christmas Day attempted airliner bombing that Obama himself said showed a failure of his administration.

When I hear them saying "her lead dropped significantly after the Senate passed health care reform...", and I then look back to the previously quoted "Democratic official" saying “I think they’re miscalaculating what’s happening with progressives and the left. They feel like they’re being taken for granted.” ... well, I draw a conclusion.

You can echo Rahm and call it "nitpicking and dissing", or you can call it "miscalculation" and "being taken for granted". I guess the question is whether or not a politician is entitled to loyalty whether or not he/she takes his/her constituents for granted... or whether complaints when a constituency feels it is being taken for granted is really just "nitpicking and dissing"...

(Power to the People? or Power to the Power?)

[totodeinhere]

19. They had better get it together or it will get worse in November.

Is there anyone who does not believe that Coakley would have won if single payer had been passed?

[FrenchieCat]

22. Single payer wouldn't get passed.....

and that's the part that you don't understand.

in fact, that's the saddest part....
while you are insisting on a dream that can't happen all at once,
we step further away from it due to lack of any understanding of the true facts.

Kucinich didn't win, and yet you are acting like he did.
It makes you part of the problem.

[GOTV]

34. "Makes you part of the problem" = Dem voter supression

[totodeinhere]

37. Frenchie, with all due respect.

I admire your passion. And I share your disgust at a Coakley loss. But my question was not "can single payer pass?" The question was "would Coakley have won if single payer had passed?" Those are two different things.

I agree that single payer can't pass now with asses like Lieberman and Nelson holding the balance of power. But I'm not going to give up. Coakley just said in her concession speech "the dream lives on." I agree with that. I'm going to keep working for what I believe in. Maybe this will be a wake up call that will change some minds and maybe sometime in the near future the dynamic will change and we can get single payer. I certainly hope so or I fear that we will face more problems in November.

[wisteria]

27. That is true and that is one consulation for me. We still have the majority though.

And, Brown is going to find he has very few friends in Mass. He will be a three year wonder thats it.

[treestar]

28. Reconciliation is limited

to stuff that affects the budget.

[AlinPA]

46. A Supreme Court appointment would be hard to get approved now.

[Peacetrain]

10. And the horse they all rode in on...I agree!!

[Politicub]

11. We all hang together or hang seperately

And I completely agree with you. It is a travesty that we lost Senator Kennedy's seat to a Republican.

If there's any good that can come from tonight, it would be that we rally around a common cause.

[Top Cat]

14. All I can say is Fuck em all.... This is awful Teddy has not been gone a year

and look how Mass. treated his seat... Very sad

[FrenchieCat]

20. True.....

Romney left his mark...on Mass,
as did Bush,
and Teddy's legacy pays....
and so do we.

[treestar]

29. I'm boycotting

I know there are a lot of good dems who worked hard.

But as a state, I'm not going to set foot in it!

I don't care what history is there.

It will take me a while to get over this.

[bigwillq]

30. Good.

Mass. doesn't want you. :rofl:

[treestar]

31. True

I'm not a republican!

[bigwillq]

35. ha ha

Have to laugh at that. :rofl: Although Mass is far from being a republican state.

[krabigirl]

39. Really? prove it

[bigwillq]

40. .......

http://www.house.gov/house/MemberWWW_by_State.shtml#ma
Bad link last time
Here are the US reps
Massachusetts
Capuano, Michael E., Massachusetts, 8th
Delahunt, William, Massachusetts, 10th
Frank, Barney, Massachusetts, 4th
Lynch, Stephen F., Massachusetts, 9th
McGovern, James, Massachusetts, 3rd
Markey, Ed, Massachusetts, 7th
Neal, Richard E., Massachusetts, 2nd
Olver, John, Massachusetts, 1st
Tierney, John, Massachusetts, 6th
Tsongas, Niki, Massachusetts, 5th



State Senate
34 Democrats - 5 Republicans - 1 Vacancy
http://www.mass.gov/legis/memmenus.htm


State Reps
Affiliation Party
(Shading indicates majority caucus) Total

Democratic Republican Vacant
End of previous legislature 141 19 160 0

Begin 144 16 160 0
Latest voting share 90% 10%
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massachusetts_House_of_Representatives

[applegrove]

15. Who cares. All those people are mean & nasty Repukes. They have

to live with that. They stand for selfishness and lower taxes on the rich.

[FrenchieCat]

21. True.....

but obviously folks in Mass didn't know that with any certitude.

They like sports better than anything else, obviously.

Meanwhile, the only we do in terms of activism in here,
is argue with ourselves.

[applegrove]

32. If HCR fails then perhaps we can come together and focus on reregulating

the financial industry. I think that is something we can all get behind.

[treestar]

33. We're not going to get anything Lieberman and Snowe don't want

Thanks, Mass.

[applegrove]

43. I think it would be a very unpopular move to not reregulate the financial industry and repukes would

pay for standing in the way of that. Just like they'll pay if they refuse to support another jobs bill.

[BlueStater]

17. Limbaugh should be the one in a fucking grave right now.

Fuck him to Hell.

[wisteria]

23. Don't beat yourself up. It is very hard to overcome the media and talk radio.

when they all are working on a goal together.
We need to lick our wounds-shut out the BS and get a plan together instead of waiting to put out fires all the time.

[Telly Savalas]

24. They have 41 Senate seats. Not much to laugh about if you ask me.

[ShortnFiery]

26. We earned it! Time to lick our wounds and re-group instead of blaming our opponents. eom

[Yavin4]

36. They Can All Laugh, But The Dems Are Still In The Majority By 18 Votes

Coakley was a horrible, horrible candidate who ran an awful campaign.

The overreaction and hand wringing is absurd. If the Democrats fall into panic mode because they no longer have a super majority, then they're looking for an excuse to NOT do something instead of doing something.

[AlinPA]

45. I count 16. We get Sanders =58, they get Lieberman= 42. There is a lot of

overreaction, but we are faced with losing it all on health care plus any other legislation because of no leadership in congress. If we can hold the senate in the 2010 elections, we will get a new majority leader, (since Reid is expected to lose in NV) and we can then make some progress.

[freddie mertz]

38. Try to keep it cool folks.

Yes this is bad.

Think how I feel, about my own home state.

The best we can do is try to learn from this.

As adults.

[sendero]

44. You work your way..

... and I'll work mine.

These asses needed a comeuppance. Maybe it will wake them the fuck up.

I don't give a fuck who is laughing douchebag.

[MrMickeysMom]

47. Rush could do with his ass falling off...

They understand best about tearing others apart... then cashing the check.

We, on the other hand, do nicely yelling and saying nasty words (typing them, too!), then working then, short of a riot, pushing others to act.

[stevenleser]

48. Let them. They made a big mistake here. They just dont realize it yet.

Sure, this is a big kick in the shorts, but assuming we learn what we need to learn from this, it is a huge mistake on their part. I'd rather lose one senate seat now then 11 in November.

Let them laugh. This was premature electuation. As a matter of fact, that sounds like a good title for a new article.

[secondwind]

49. SO, let's stop doing this already! Let's post ONLY stuff that REALLY MATTERS!

[FrenchieCat]

52. That would work.....

But this advice will be ignored.
Folks like to tell others what to do.

I think we need a different website for that....
one where "real" activist can actual act....
instead of rant constantly with soundbytes and boogiemen and shit.

[CreekDog]

50. Frenchie, quit fighting the last battle...you and I want Obama to succeed BUT:

the fact is he's got to change some things in order to succeed.

it's clear he and his White House did not plan for losing even one vote in the Senate, which they knew might happen with Coakley, could have happened any day with Byrd and also with Lieberman and Nelson.

and they didn't have their shit together and now one vote that most of us realized they would lose today and they had no freaking plan. i don't mean everybody agreed on a plan, i mean that it's clear the White House did not even decide what they thought would be best and prepare a message for it.

Frenchie, you aren't doing them any favors by blaming Limbaugh, or Hannity or teabaggers or whomever.

We would be in the same position if one of the good guys got hit by a bus.

This is a wake up call to Obama. Either he and his staff prepares Plan B's for close calls or they lose and when they lose we lose.

This has got to change.

Quit fighting the 2008 battle. Face what is becoming obvious to those of us who have ardently defended Obama much or most of the time --something is screwed up. Obama is smart, he needs to hear from his ardent supporters that things have got to change.

Coming from someone like you, a message to Obama that something is not cutting it will go farther than from someone who hated Obama all along.

Think about it. If you want Obama to succeed, that would be more helpful than defending him at every turn.

:hi:

[FrenchieCat]

51. This thread is simply about who won last night.....not who lost.

As for my criticizing this President,
I will as soon as the noise from everyone else's
crazy rants stop.

I'm not into pile-ons.

Sorry.