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ram2008 Donating Member (134 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 08:16 PM
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NYT: Ford to Challenge Gillibrand against party wishes.
Edited on Tue Jan-12-10 08:20 PM by ram2008
So far the only source is Drudgereport( I do hate him) , but apparently NYT is going to headline with this tomorrow.

"NYT LEAD WEDS. Harold Ford Jr. IS challenging Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand for the Democratic nomination, against wishes of party leaders..."

Disgusting. I hope Ford destroys any chance he ever has holding an elected office.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 08:19 PM
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1. republicans in the dems primary? hmmm nt
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Jim Lane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 06:34 AM
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37. No, New York has closed primaries
The Democratic primary isn't open to registered Republicans or even to independents. You must be a registered Democrat to vote in the primary.

Furthermore, anyone who's currently registered to vote, but not as a Democrat, can't sneak into the primary by changing registration now. A change of party affiliation doesn't take effect until a general election has passed. A Republican who wanted to vote for Ford in the primary would have had to re-register as a Democrat before the November 2009 general election.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 08:20 PM
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2. Perhaps Ford and Drudge got together in the same stall at a public restroom
That's where these two creeps belong!
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 08:21 PM
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3. He's acting like a Carpetbagger...
not sure how many times he's moved to get into an election...but from my folks in NY, Gillibrand is doing a fine job, and most people see Ford as a joke, or worse, the Carpetbagger.

I believe Gillibrand will take it in the General election. For the short time she's been there, she's done a fine job.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 08:28 PM
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7. Ford is acting like some dangerous parasite, going from host to host
What takes the cake is that now Ford has flipped flopped on abortion and LGBT rights. He was against both, now he claims he is for them!
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 09:03 PM
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13. There was a time when I actually liked him, found him to be articulate
and knowledgeable. I think your description as a "parasite" is appropriate...:hi:
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 09:06 PM
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14. I plead guilty to liking Kirsten Gillibrand
Edited on Tue Jan-12-10 09:06 PM by IndianaGreen
She has actually done a lot of work in favor of LGBT rights since she came to the Senate, not just talking to gay groups behind closed doors.

I admit I donate money to her campaign. A modest contribution, to be sure, but a big symbolic one for her outspoken opposition to DADT and DOMA.

Now we got Harold Ford, like the fly in the ointment. Where is my fly swatter?
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 09:11 PM
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15. My brother is in NY...
I was just talking to him last night...he figures that Gillibrand has the election hands down...for sure, the nomination. People in NY are happy w/her...:D

An aside...I saw her a while back on C-SPAN about something or other...I was impressed w/poise and intellect...pretty good for being a junior...:woohoo:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 09:26 PM
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19. Have you heard anything about
Ford's motive's for this?

It really is bizarre when you think about it. I always knew he was a dino but this is ridiculous. Gillibrand is a New Yorker who has served New Yorkers..what has Ford done for New York?
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 09:30 PM
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20. The "motive" appears to be not much more than ego...
Up to this point, he is only looking for funding, feeling out the ground...that could change monetarily though.

If he tries, he's gonna get trounced...in all seriousness, so many NY'ers see this as a sham, he'd go home like a beaten slug...:hi:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 09:38 PM
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23. It will be my pleasure
to vote against the dinobagger. :hi:
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 09:32 PM
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21. Michael Bloomberg: (Gillibrand) was vulnerable and would undoubtedly face a challenger
This is what happens when you put people on ignore, you remain in the dark when it counts!

Here is what Michael Bloomberg said about Gillibrand: (she) was vulnerable and would undoubtedly face a challenger, whether it was Mr. Ford or someone else.

Bloomberg's former campaign manager and his pollster are advising Harold Ford.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 09:32 PM
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22. He has a book dropping a week (I think) before the primary.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 09:40 PM
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24. That ought to be a winner..
The world according to Harold Ford Jr, traveling dino.
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cooolandrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 09:24 PM
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18. Yep, he's wasting his time Gilibrand has done a lot of good in NY, can't see his objective here.
Edited on Tue Jan-12-10 09:25 PM by cooolandrew
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 08:22 PM
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4. Who's paying him to attempt fubar in New York?
Edited on Tue Jan-12-10 08:24 PM by Cha
"* Former Tennessee Rep. Harold Ford Jr. (D) noted today that he is "strongly considering running for the United States Senate" in New York. In preparation, the center-right Tennessean hopes to reinvent himself as a center-left New Yorker -- Ford voted in 2006 for a constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage, but now claims to support gay marriage."

* The White House is making it clear that it's opposed to Ford's possible primary campaign against appointed Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D)."

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/

After he loses then will he go back to being a far right dino in Tennessee? The saga continues.
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ram2008 Donating Member (134 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 08:25 PM
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6. bloomberg.
I think Ford knows he can't win and will act as a spoiler. It will be a brutal primary, and when he loses I can see Ford pulling a Lieberman and running as an Independent siphoning votes from Gillibrand. Bloomberg has tons and tons of cash to spend on this, he will do everything he can to make the seat turn red.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 08:29 PM
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8. Michael Bloomberg is the man behind Harold Ford's challenge to Kirsten Gillibrand
Bloomberg's campaign manager and pollster are both working for Ford.
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alsame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 08:32 PM
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10. I don't think he'll take too many votes away from Gillibrand. It's pretty
obvious he's carpetbagging and 'trying to re-invent himself'.

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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 08:33 PM
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11. Are you sure? Because I don't
see bloomberg doing this.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 09:15 PM
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16. Putting people on ignore sometimes results in a lack of information
Luckily we have lots of lurkers that read DU. They are the ones that benefit from reading the good information posted in DU, without having to get involved in the ugliness.

I posted this info twice before:

Michael Bloomberg is the man behind Harold Ford's challenge to Kirsten Gillibrand

Why wouldn't the head of DLC lie in bed with a billionaire moderate Republican like Bloomberg. DLC and Rockefeller Republicans share the same neoliberal ideology, so why not?

From NY Times:

The New York political world reacted swiftly and strongly to the possibility of Harold Ford Jr.’s candidacy for the United States Senate, with top Senate leaders trying to squash the bid and close advisers to Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg meeting with Mr. Ford on Thursday to plot strategy for a campaign.

<snip>

Senator Harry Reid of Nevada, the Democratic majority leader, called Mr. Bloomberg, and expressed concern about the reports of a possible Ford bid for the Senate, and asked if the mayor or his top political aides were behind the effort.

Mr. Bloomberg, speaking on his cellphone on a drive to an event, reassured Mr. Reid that he was not personally involved in the effort to promote a Ford candidacy, according to a senior Democratic official and an aide to the mayor. But Mr. Bloomberg also told Senator Reid that Ms. Gillibrand, with whom he has at times clashed, was vulnerable and would undoubtedly face a challenger, whether it was Mr. Ford or someone else.

But around the same time that Mr. Bloomberg was distancing himself from the Ford effort, two of his top campaign strategists met with Mr. Ford, 39, for lunch at the Harvard Club in Manhattan. Bradley Tusk, who managed Mr. Bloomberg successful mayoral re-election campaign, and Doug Schoen, the mayor’s pollster, provided a detailed portrait of the city’s political landscape to Mr. Ford, a former Tennessee representative, and described to him what a challenge to Ms. Gillibrand would involve. The senator, appointed by Gov. David A. Paterson last year, has never run statewide, but is considered a prodigious fund-raiser.

Mr. Tusk confirmed the meeting. Mr. Ford declined to be interviewed.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/08/nyregion/08ford.html?hp
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 08:25 PM
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5. Well this will be fun

After watching that SOB on TV now I get to see him humiliate himself.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 08:30 PM
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9. What a joke
More proof that man's capacity for pointless foolishness knows no bounds.

I will crawl over broken glass to vote against this asshole.
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michaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 08:35 PM
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12. I won't be voting for him! n/t
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 09:19 PM
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17. Michael Bloomberg is the man behind Harold Ford's challenge to Kirsten Gillibrand
I posted this NY Times story previously. It is worth the read.

Michael Bloomberg is the man behind Harold Ford's challenge to Kirsten Gillibrand

Why wouldn't the head of DLC lie in bed with a billionaire moderate Republican like Bloomberg. DLC and Rockefeller Republicans share the same neoliberal ideology, so why not?

From NY Times:

The New York political world reacted swiftly and strongly to the possibility of Harold Ford Jr.’s candidacy for the United States Senate, with top Senate leaders trying to squash the bid and close advisers to Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg meeting with Mr. Ford on Thursday to plot strategy for a campaign.

<snip>

Senator Harry Reid of Nevada, the Democratic majority leader, called Mr. Bloomberg, and expressed concern about the reports of a possible Ford bid for the Senate, and asked if the mayor or his top political aides were behind the effort.

Mr. Bloomberg, speaking on his cellphone on a drive to an event, reassured Mr. Reid that he was not personally involved in the effort to promote a Ford candidacy, according to a senior Democratic official and an aide to the mayor. But Mr. Bloomberg also told Senator Reid that Ms. Gillibrand, with whom he has at times clashed, was vulnerable and would undoubtedly face a challenger, whether it was Mr. Ford or someone else.

But around the same time that Mr. Bloomberg was distancing himself from the Ford effort, two of his top campaign strategists met with Mr. Ford, 39, for lunch at the Harvard Club in Manhattan. Bradley Tusk, who managed Mr. Bloomberg successful mayoral re-election campaign, and Doug Schoen, the mayor’s pollster, provided a detailed portrait of the city’s political landscape to Mr. Ford, a former Tennessee representative, and described to him what a challenge to Ms. Gillibrand would involve. The senator, appointed by Gov. David A. Paterson last year, has never run statewide, but is considered a prodigious fund-raiser.

Mr. Tusk confirmed the meeting. Mr. Ford declined to be interviewed.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/08/nyregion/08ford.html?hp
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whistler162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 10:05 PM
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25. Harold "Edsel" Ford as popular as his namesake was.
Edited on Tue Jan-12-10 10:07 PM by whistler162
Hillary was one thing, didn't vote for her either time. But, Harold "Edsel" Ford over a native New Yorker and a decent Senator.
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thatsrightimirish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 10:45 PM
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26. a win for everyone
he won't be on nbc all the time and he will lose
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mgcgulfcoast Donating Member (202 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 11:03 PM
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27. Ford is a fool
what is this idiot doing? does he want to split the party in new york? is new york a place everyone goes to be senator? stay out of new york ford!!
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 11:11 PM
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28. One of the dem consultants doesn't think Gillibrand can win.
McMahon I think.

I don't like that Schumer is pulling the strings for Gillibrand.
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davidpdx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 03:47 AM
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29. I think people should show up at his events with signs
"Go home Gerald"

(no, that wasn't a typo)
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SanchoPanza Donating Member (410 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 06:17 AM
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30. He has a book coming out next September.
http://www.amazon.com/More-Davids-Than-Goliaths-Political/dp/0307408388/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1263380914&sr=8-1">It comes out a week before the primary is scheduled.

Nothing says free publicity like campaigning for U.S. Senate on someone else's dime.
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CTLawGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 07:21 AM
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31. Harold Ford,
the guy who managed to lose in the Democratic year of '06? I wouldn't lose any sleep if I were Gillibrand.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 08:08 AM
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32. His tentative slogan: “Harold Ford: nobody’s man but ours.”
Ford is a vice chairman at Merrill Lynch, (now Bank of America.)
He called for a major reduction in the corporate tax rate and a payroll tax holiday to encourage hiring.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/13/nyregion/13ford.html?hp
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CTLawGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 06:14 PM
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36. oh man
what a liberal guy he is?
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euphoria12leo Donating Member (511 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 08:09 AM
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33. Harold Ford was on MSNBC awhile back
and said he left alot of his friends at FOX. Who, I'm not sure he didn't say. He made the comment after Jesse Jackson got caught with an open mic on Fox bashing Obama. If he has friends at Fixed news that tells me all I need to know about Ford. Not to mention he's not going to win anything in NY.

:thumbsdown:
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WonderGrunion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 03:29 PM
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34. Ford is a borderline Repuke so Drudge is probably a good source here.
Gillibrand is a good Democrat and she looks like she could win. We really don't need a primary challenge from this schmuck.
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Lord Helmet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 03:32 PM
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35. Can't stand Ford. He's a huge douche.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 09:20 AM
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38. Eww. I guess because he couldn't win in a red state he has to come up north and bother NY.
I like Gillibrand, she has been a pleasant surprise. I hope Dems in NY turn their noses at this pathetic excuse for a human being. There is nothing worse then a desperate to be elected politician.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 10:18 AM
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39. BRING....IT....ON.....
I look forward to him being eviscerated by the NYC Democrats and finished off by the rest of us.
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