Uribe secretly sought negotiations with the FARC

[rabs]

alvarito's hypocrisy is a bottomless pool.

El Espectador and El Tiempo are reporting that a secret cable (released by Wikileaks) from the U.S. Embassy (Brownfield) reveals that uribito was trying to initiate a direct dialog with the guerrillas.

This was going on early this year (2010). So on the one hand, uribito was calling for the destruction of the FARC, on the other he was dealing under the table in trying to open a dialog aimed at ending the conflict.

This is a bomb shell in Colombia today.

El Espectador story in Spanish

http://www.elespectador.com/noticias/politica/articulo-239361-wikileaks-uribe-busco-secreto-el-dialogo-directo-farc

El Tiempo story

http://www.eltiempo.com/mundo/estados-unidos/uribe-busco-en-secreto-dialogo-directo-con-las-farc_8551780-4

No English version so far, expect Colombia Reports will have it later.

[Peace Patriot]

1. That ain't the half of his hypocrisy--and treachery! He lured Chavez into negotiating with the FARC

on hostage releases, then later accused Chavez of being a "terrorist lover" because he had contact with the FARC.

Uribe is Mr. Treachery, in my book. There is no depth of dishonor to which he will not stoop.

Glad he has been outed on this point at least. Hope the Colombian prosecutors get him, despite his being a very special "made man" in the U.S.A.

[rabs]

2. Colombia asks Hillary for soverign immunity for uribito

In case you missed it, posted this couple of days ago in another thread.


Colombia has asked the U.S. Department of State to grant sovereign immunity to former President Alvaro Uribe, who was recently subpoenaed in a civil case against coal giant Drummond.

The request was made on November 12, a week after the court order was delivered to Uribe by a human rights activist at Georgetown University, where the former President is a guest lecturer, and ten days before he was supposed to give testimony, but did not show up.

According to Colombian radio station La FM, Colombia's ambassador to Washington and Uribe's Defense Minister Gabriel Silva, requested the sovereign immunity on the grounds that his ex-boss had been head of state. The request is exceptional, because generally this type of immunity is granted to present heads of state, not former heads of state.

Uribe was subpoenaed on behalf of a group of victims of paramilitary violence in an area where Drummond was active. According to the victims, Uribe had direct knowledge of the alleged cooperation between the coal company and the AUC.

http://colombiareports.com/colombia-news/news/13301-colombia-us-grant-immunity-uribe.html

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The speculation in Bogota is that alvarito twisted Santos's arm to make this request. A "If I go down, you are going down with me" sort of thing.

Will be interesting to see what Hil does about it. Granting immunity to Citizen Uribe would open a Pandora's barn by setting a precedent where any thuggish ex-president facing justice in his country could ask for the same.

I have no idea what will happen re Santos/U.S. relations if Hillary does NOT grant it.

It may be, as you have often said, that uribito knows too much that could implicate or embarass the powers that be in Washington.

[Peace Patriot]

5. Yup, they don't have Paraguay any more, to shuffle their rat fascists off to, and...

...Uribe ain't safe in his own country. Maybe...Panama?

:rofl:

But I'm pretty sure he will be quite welcome in 'Mafia' Nation (capital: Miami) like other protected U.S. 'heroes' of murder and mayhem.

Little question in my mind that Hillary will give him "sovereignty"--the exiled king of Colombia--and anything else she needs to give him, to keep a lid on U.S. war crimes (and probably some other crimes like Bush Cartel drug trafficking) in Colombia.

:puke:

[naaman fletcher]

3. Wikileaks

as I predicted, the attitude towards wikileaks by certain members of the LA forum is that every cable that makes the US or one of its allies look bad is true, and every cable that makes Venezuela, Bolvia, or one of its allies look bad is just CIA misdirection.

[Bacchus39]

4. exactly, but I think they wanted more that would make the US look bad

I don't find this particular bit of information to be negative at all.

[Judi Lynn]

6. Another Wikilink, or, Winkidink:

Chávez and Uribe 'almost came to blows' at summit, says WikiLeaksLatin American unity summit in Mexico dissolved into 'banana republic' shoving match with Raúl Castro as the referee
Rory Carroll guardian.co.uk,
Thursday 2 December 2010 21.30 GMT

It was billed as the Latin American unity summit but that was before shouting, swearing and shoving turned it into "the worst expression of banana republic discourse".

Mexico hoped to create a new forum for regional co-operation at a high-powered gathering in Cancún in February. But the event unravelled when Venezuela's Hugo Chávez and Colombia's Álvaro Uribe "almost came to blows", according to a confidential US cable.

The row erupted at lunch when Uribe complained about Venezuela blocking border trade, it said. "Chávez ended a verbal and physical tirade with: 'You can go to hell. I am leaving.' Uribe responded: 'Don't be a coward and leave just to insult me from a distance.'"

~snip~
"Calderón had simply put a bunch of the worst types together in a room, expecting to outsmart them. Instead, Brazil outplayed him completely, and Venezuela outplayed Brazil."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/dec/02/chavez-uribe-summit-wikileaks

http://cache.daylife.com.nyud.net:8090/imageserve/03Du7dd7A44hu/610x.jpg

The little Teflon Presidente can ride a horse and drink coffee at the same time.
Bush Cuban "exile" Commerce Secretary Gutierrez is the guy waving to him from the ground.

http://www.bnamericas.com.nyud.net:8090/ten/images/alvaroUribe.gif

Flying to the aid of Colombia's oligarchy, again.