Venezuelan State TV caught cheating the opinion

[ChangoLoa]

In the following footage, you can see two Venezuelan policemen checking a demonstrator's bag. When they empty it (different sequence) they find 5 or 6 big stones that supposedly the girl was throwing at them. This is supposed to show people how violent and fascist are the students who were demonstrating.

Problem is, the editors of VTV (canal 8, State TV) didn't notice one of the policemen saying to his partner "siémbrale unas piedras", which means "plant her some stones". In Venezuelan slang, to plant something in someone's bag means "put fake evidence in it".

Check 00:10 here. Those who speak spanish, if they put some volume, will hear "siémbrale unas piedras":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJqfnbEmnCU&feature=related

[Downwinder]

1. Cops are the same the world over. n/t

[ChangoLoa]

3. The problem is when the STATE TV is used as a tool of propaganda for the PARTY in power. nt

[Bacchus39]

2. thanks very informative, not surprising though n/t

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[ChangoLoa]

4. Unfortunately it isn't

You can see how disinformation flows from VTV to internet sites like BoRev and venezuelanalysis to DU. How many times have we heard here about the "fascist" demonstrators in Venezuela?

These people use the media exactly like their "corpofascist" enemies. It's a shame.

[EFerrari]

5. This one incident doesn't wipe out ten years of bullshit.

Cops are cops all over the world. Are you claiming these cops were colluding with Chavez? Maybe they helped him steal that oil rig, too. lol

Your claim is too large to even begin to pass the smell test.

[ChangoLoa]

7. My claim is not about cops.

It's about how the state media institutions treat the information in Venezuela. You shouldn't trust them any more than the ones you already distrust.

[EFerrari]

8. Thank you for telling me who I should "trust". Good consumers of news

don't trust any outlet, state, opposition, fake independents, real independents. We read and listen and gather up facts from as many sources as possible.

[bemildred]

9. Remember the Chavez "Earthquake" story?

A video with some voice over ...?

[ChangoLoa]

10. yes.. Russia TV? nt

[bemildred]

11. "Russia Today" I think it was.

Just mentioning that sound on a YouTube video doesn't mean much. I'm not saying the OP is false, just that I want better evidence.

[ChangoLoa]

12. It is quite clear if you get venezuelan spanish and put some volume. nt

[bemildred]

13. Well, I would certainly want it to be clear if I was adding it in. nt

[Bacchus39]

14. you're not getting it. it wasn't supposed to be in there

the State TV was wanting to show the "fascist" violent opposition, not the corrupt cops.

[bemildred]

16. All I see is a video on YouTube. nt

[ChangoLoa]

15. Chavezvision would have cut this audio, not add it in.

But they put it on air without noticing. Do you know "La Hojilla" (the razor blade) state TV show? Almost everyday, you see the govt ministers in the program, Chavez himself quite often, they announce policies, reforms but legal prosecutions to come as well. They even show sometimes recorded telephone conversations of opp politicians who were wired by the intelligence police before the judicial system starts or calls a trial. Btw, this is not an "incident" at all, it's an everyday method.

[bemildred]

17. All I see is a video on YouTube. nt

[protocol rv]

20. State TV has poor standards

I don't think it's the police, it's the state controlled TV station. They are so inept they put on the little video, and anybody could hear it, the story about the stones was fake. Maybe they need Cuban advisors in there too!

[Bacchus39]

6. they are just Chavez mouth pieces, in fact the Borev dude was the Ven Info Officer in the US

and while the police are planting rocks on young girls for politcal reasons, 34 people were murdered in Caracas this past weekend.

http://www.eluniversal.com/2010/02/01/suc_ava_estudiante-universit_01A3375613.shtml

[ChangoLoa]

18. In conclusion of today's cadena,

el Comandante-Presidente (as he's called by the VTV speaker) tells us:

"LOS QUE QUIERAN PATRIA QUE VENGAN CON NOSOTROS. LOS VENDEPATRIA QUE SE VAYAN PARA EL OTRO LADO"

[Bacchus39]

19. You are with us, or you are against us

where have I heard that before?

[Wilms]

22. George Bush said it. In a different context.

Hundreds of thousands died as a result of Bush(s) so the oligarchs didn't seek to depose him in a coup.

An idiot would be unable to recognize the threats and actual attacks LA democracy has suffered at the hands of the US.

Chavez is no idiot. That he chooses to act like one at times is likely the show he puts on to tweak his detractors.

[protocol rv]

21. Can't go to El Recreo anymore

It is getting very bad. I know anybody can tell stories about this or that robbery, but the statistics you mention are the best way to understand this problem. It is like a war in the barrios. I feel sorry for those people.