Canada Catholics 'ordain' women

[lovuian]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6697271.stm

An ordination ceremony that openly defies Roman Catholic doctrine has taken place in Toronto.

Five women and a married man, all Roman Catholics, have been ordained as priests and deacons by a female Catholic bishop.

However, the Vatican says it will not recognise either the ordinations or the group carrying them out.

The ordination ceremony was held at a Protestant church on the outskirts of Toronto known for its liberal views.

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[SoCalDem]

1. The Catholic church is having a problem finding young men who want to

be priests.. Not many these days would want that life.. and we all know the church let a lot of creeeeeepy guys in ..

This sounds like a great idea to tme :)

[Maru Kitteh]

2. Female Roman Catholic Bishop is as

Orangatan Birthday Engineer Supervisor. Obviously, she's going to hell for leading men. The RCC has a tradition thousands of years old of squashing, killing and denying women of faith in scripture and the flesh.

[cgrindley]

3. This is why religion is so stupid

so when a person is faced by the fact that his or her religion is inherently misogynistic or homophobic or irrational... instead of simply walking away from it and saying: "what the hell was I thinking? why did I waste so much of my life believing in horseshit?" they instead try to change that religion inspite of its thousands of years of tradition, fifteen hundred years of direct written theory, or reasonably clear "holy" texts.

[Chulanowa]

4. Because it must change.

Change will never happen, if the people with the ideas abandon ship. leaving because you disagree only strengthens the parts you disagree with, because you're not there to voice your dissent any longer.

Religion isn't going away. If it were going to go away, it would have vanished several thousand years ago. Since it's going to stay, it needs all the people it can get to turn it into as positive a force as possible. This will not be accomplished by people saying "aw fuck it" and tossing in the towel.

[progressoid]

8. Really? Don't tell Luther, Calvin, et. al.

But on a larger scale, a compelling argument can be made that leaving the church weakens it and opens new doors for the individual and society. Imagine if the millions of Catholics (or Baptists, Muslims, Mormons, etc.) who disagree with their church decided to stop attending church.

Oh, wait a minute, that's pretty much how it is in France. The church is irrelevant; just a piece of history. Go to Mass in France and you'll find a handful of old ladies rubbing their beads. thinking it's still 1950, while the majority of the country enjoys their emotional and spiritual freedom.

[Clark2008]

5. The Church doesn't want you to know this, but it's always

ordained, at least, married men as priests in times of need.

For example, if there was a small village that wanted to start a church, but all the "worthy" candidates were already married, it would ordain them as priests rather than force them to divorce (since that's a bigger no-no). Many a married priest have dotted the landscape of the smaller towns in Europe for centuries.

I don't have a link for this - it's just something I knew growing up Catholic.

[FloridaJudy]

7. I always thought that they appointed "deacons"

If there weren't enough priests to go around. Deacons could be female and/or married. I think they were allowed to do anything a priest could, short of holding mass and granting absolution.

I suspect that in Europe (where people tend to be a little more flexible about sin) many an ordained priest had a "housekeeper" whose duties included more than cooking and cleaning. If the guy was a decent priest in all other respects, his parishioners probably shrugged and said "Oh well. He's only human. At least the alter boys are safe..."

I'm not Catholic - or even Christian for that matter - but people seem to find ways around the rules when it comes to matters of faith. Look at all the rich "fundamentalists" who seem to have forgotten Jesus' advice regarding accumulating wealth.

[SemperEadem]

6. The Canadian Catholic Church

'bout time they followed step with the Anglican church. It's about time the American Catholic church separated itself from Rome, too. Rome is no longer necesssary for validation--hasn't been since 1558.

[lovuian]

9. Peter was married as well as other apostles & Woman

were apostles too Paul acknowledges them in the bible

this isn't the Christianity of Christ
this is a Roman Rule

the Celtic Christian Church had women such as St Bridgid as a major Bishop

then Rome came in and changed everything to male dominated then the Inquisition which burned Joan of Arc at the stake for being a witch and now she is a saint after 100's of years

Catholic Charities help the poor and do help many people

just that Rome just doesn't want to wake up Male domination is over...

[ck4829]

10. K&R