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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 09:22 AM
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Does it occur to anyone else that our last line of defense will be lost on January 3, 2011?
The Senate has long been useless. The President has demonstrated a penchant for triangulation and, now, outright work with repubicans while cutting out the Democrats. The House was all we had.

And now that is gone, too.
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 09:28 AM
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1. yep and Obama has virtually guaranteed
that the republicans will take the oval office and probably the senate in 2012.

Thanks Mr. President.
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 10:08 AM
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10. This is what concerns me. If people want Republican policies, they vote Republican,
not Republican-lite.
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 12:03 PM
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15. Obama's Republican like moves leads me to think that perhaps
he chose to run as a Democrat rather than Republican for the Senate seat was a calculation of expedience, just like this compromise tax deal. If so, he should publicly declare that he is now a Republican. (Which, of course, is a joke)
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social_critic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 11:03 AM
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13. I'm voting for Obama again
It's not that bad. Much better than Bush. And the economy should be rebounding by 2012.
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 01:16 PM
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16. At least someone here notices the "Change" we were promised.
:shrug:
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 02:37 PM
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18. So even if the President caves completely to the Reich-wing, you'll still vote for him?
It's not that bad? My long deceased Father used to say the canary that sings the loudest is the best fed.


And he wasn't talking about birds,
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Goldstein1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 09:28 AM
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2. The people get what they deserve...
Either because they collectively ask for it, or because they collectively tolerate it.
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Ninga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 09:32 AM
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3. Vote count was down dramatically here in Ohio. 40% less than in the last off-year election
which was 2006.

Ohioans are going to pay big time for their lack of interest in voting. The ones that need the most, stayed away from the polls.
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Goldstein1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 09:36 AM
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6. Yes, that's part of what I'm talking about, although
I'm beginning to sympathize with disillusioned voters. I'm also talking about resistance to ideas like boycotts.

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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 09:36 AM
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4. The Senate is a defensive body
We used it against W, and we'll use it against the GOP in the House.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 09:36 AM
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5. Apparently, the "people" have spoken...
at least those who turned out at the polls. The ones who stayed away from their polling places, though, may have spoken the loudest.

Consequences of actions and inactions, I believe.

But, hey...it could get worse in 2012, you know.
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 09:40 AM
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7. Isn't exactly the *Change We Can Believe in* that we were sold, is it?
:cry:
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 09:45 AM
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8. he has done everything they wanted him to do...
he`ll be relected in 2012 with their blessing.

our republic was gone the day he took office.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 11:03 AM
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12. yes, he's a GOP mole!!!11!!1!1! he killed america!11!1!1
Edited on Mon Dec-13-10 11:03 AM by dionysus
:eyes:
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 09:58 AM
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9. Nah. There are stacks of bills passed in the house still sitting there.
With large Dem majorities in both chambers.

The same will be true going forward, although I expect less fight out of Senate Dems.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 10:45 AM
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11. I recall 700 Bills passed the House that didn't make it through the "Dem controlled" Senate
Edited on Mon Dec-13-10 10:46 AM by leveymg
Who really controls the Senate? It's not the Democrats I know.

Same question can be asked about the "Democratic" President we elected.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 11:14 AM
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14. Stack of bills? $50's or $100's? nt
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 01:45 PM
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17. yup--and they will spend all their time working furiously to make any escape impossible
with rule changes and re-districting and trick after trick they are unashamed to perform in order to get more power. How else can a tiny minority rule without effective challenges? They have to do it that way because the people don't support the Republican agenda in any way. yet they will lie and lie about how America is "center right" What BS!!!
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suffragette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 03:29 PM
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19. I've been thinking about this quite a bit in terms of now
Especially given that we only have a short time of having a Democratic majority, yet the major item being pushed is an agreement with Republicans.
And apparently, there's little support being shown from Obama about having the Senate stay in session to try to push through other bills.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...


It feels like the Democratic House is being undercut even before changing hands to the Republicans.

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