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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 11:10 PM
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pssst...yeah you...there's a revolution starting...want to join in? it begins in you...
Edited on Wed Dec-08-10 11:24 PM by originalpckelly
Today I pledge that I am a revolutionary. I will not stop until this government is radically changed. What it will look like, I do not know. But I know one thing: I have a revolution in my mind. I know I'm free, and no one will tell me otherwise. Whatever controls my destiny lies within me, not outside. I may do everything like a normal person, but I am not normal. For I am free. I know that one day I will control my destiny within the limits of another person's freedom. I do not believe in any particular ideology, I believe in the truth. The truth has set me free. I know I own me. I know that if there are enough people like me, the tyranny that's slowly being exposed will not win, but freedom will. I pledge that I will work until my death to ensure that my brothers and sisters will reach freedom. That they will know that it starts in them. It is no different than being on the underground railroad, this in fact is even worse. At least the slaves knew they weren't free. Many out there simply don't know. I know there is an illusion going, something that looks like freedom, but really isn't. I know I'm being bought off. I'm not free because of what I can buy, I'm free because of what I buy into and what I don't. And I don't buy into "freedom" that people who live in an overt dictatorship, like China, can have.

I am free, and nothing will stop me from making sure others are free. Even imprisonment or even death. In the jail cell, I'll be the freest man alive. And dying at the gallows, I will live forever.***

I tell the people who own us: I AM FREE! I am meek, not much really, but knowing I am free makes me more powerful than a nuclear bomb.

Resist at every turn. Do not let this die down. Force the issue. Do everything you can to get in THEIR face. Shut them down in your mind and you will shut them down in the most important place. But don't just shut them down in your mind. SHUT THEM DOWN EVERYWHERE! AT EVERY TURN! SHOW THEM WHO'S REALLY BOSS!

Torture is illegal, and gravely so, but the people who ordered it are walking free.

Forget about Julian Assange. ASSUME he raped two women.

Just pay attention to the fact that they're shutting Wikileaks down. DID WIKILEAKS RAPE ANYONE? Wikileaks is more than just a website, it's an idea. It's a principle. It's something you don't even have to "believe" in. It's something you can conclude is right. You know things now that you never would have, were it not for that idea, that principle. Do you really believe you shouldn't know about something that's going on in your name?

Do NOT let this evil empire tell you what's illegal, it has no moral standing any longer. IT HAS NO LAWS. It does WHAT IT PLEASES, TO WHOM IT PLEASES, WHEN AND WHERE IT PLEASES, AND TELLS ONLY WHOM IT PLEASES!

It only uses law as a plea to your innate wish to obey authority.

IT HAS NO AUTHORITY! It's a god damned lying piece of shit. Would you trust someone who tortures? Or someone who let's torturers off the hook? IT DID BOTH!

It is the oligarchy of business interests and government interests, mostly right wing, that uses things like the media to tell us lies. That's also the "they" I use. It's not just US v. THEM. It's the free versus this massive blob of tyranny that just keeps growing and growing. Do what you want to, but the blob is rolling down your street as you read this. Fuck, it's already in your house. It is your house. And it is you, unless you stand up, even if on the inside.

I can't promise you anything but a massive reduction in our quality of life. When empires fall, the people in the empire suffer. But this empire has gone too far. If we don't stop it now, it could be permanent. An unending, permanent tyranny, that controls the entire world outside your head. And don't think this shit won't eventually end up like 1984. It will be even worse. Eventually someone will figure out how to control what's going on inside your head, not just the outward expression of it.

There might be disorganized lawlessness. There will eventually arise organized crime. Look at Russia.

This empire, however, is the biggest organized crime outfit going in history. It plays nice with other organized crime schemes. Just look at China. We sure are getting along fine and dandy with them, as far as business is concerned. They're communists, the very same people we used to fight against in this empire. How could we make friends and do business with them, if we were really about "capitalism" and "freedom"? You might ease tensions, but to go as far as we have is beyond the pale. It's only happening because China is just an oligarchy, it has no ideology and it is not communist. It's a tyranny. Just like our nation. The two countries just have different ways of skinning the same cat. They force their people into shit with a police state, and we buy our people off with shit made in their police state.

It's all about power in the long run. That's all it is. We do their bidding because big brother bought us a really nice gift, and we have to be nice. It's not because we're making the free choice to do it, all of us are being coerced, BIG TIME, into it. I'm not an anarchist, quite honestly, I just said earlier I'm not into ideologies anymore. I'm into conclusions now. I'm saying this, because it's true.

You're free to quit your job, BUT will you have a place to live, car to drive, food to eat, clothes to wear, money in general to buy things? Nope. Not at all. You are a slave in this system, just a different kind of slavery. They don't whip us, no, they buy us off. When you go to the cash register and ring up, you're really paying with more than you see. You're paying with your freedom.

I'm no genius, I can't tell you all the answers, but I know one thing: YOU ARE THE ANSWER! You are what this world has been waiting for. I'm not some political leader, I will never hold political office, but I am a person who can figure basic shit out. Do you really think the answer to this problem you and I are having will not involve us somehow? How can we solve our problems without us? It would seem the most basic element of the solution. Obama said this to us all. "We are the people we've been waiting for..." or something to that effect. He was right. He may have been using that as political rhetoric, but those are words he's going to regret saying some day. If people really believe that, the government would be radically different than it is now. It would be serving the vast majority, not the vast minority. It wouldn't collude with corporations, it would regulate them. And corporations would stand up for freedom, seeing that they exist because of it. But they are neither free organizations any longer. That myth is gone.

Let the revolution begin within all of us tonight.

THE EMPIRE HAS FALLEN IN MY MIND, LET IT FALL IN YOUR'S TOO!

***The entire piece I've written is mainly about changing your mind, NOT being violent. You must realize, however, that this will not be all daisies. If this is as bad it looks, and it is, the people who own us will eventually be violent against the non-violent. You have to be willing to take a beating, if necessary. I'm about the biggest sissy out there, so if I can be willing, you can be too. Just think about all the people who've come before us and tried to change this empire. We owe it to them to stand up and be counted.
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beforeyoureyes Donating Member (289 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 11:12 PM
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1. I'm in.
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markfall Donating Member (34 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 11:33 PM
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18. Its a crazy concept, I know
but they invented these places called airports a long while ago. You see, from one of these "airports" a person could go just about anywhere else in the world, away from this jackbooted police state. Some folks will say "nah, I love this country too much and I'm not going to just let it fall". Oddly enough, those folks wouldn't really mind if large, unsorted, unfiltered ammount of government intelligence and information pertaining to this country were released without a care in the world. Its a real paradox.
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 11:16 PM
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2. I'm in...
I say fuck it. Pull the finger out of the dike and let it rip.
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Kaleva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 11:18 PM
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3. Advocating violent revolution against the US Govt. is against the rules
Edited on Wed Dec-08-10 11:22 PM by Kaleva
If you are willing to be executed for your actions, your plan of action must be much more then attending peaceful protests, getting out the vote and writing or calling your Rep & Senator.

Your comment:

"Even imprisonment or even death. In the jail cell, I'll be the freest man alive. And dying at the gallows, I will live forever."

The specific rule:

"Do not post messages that could be construed as advocating violence or military defeat against the United States, the U.S. military, US service people, or the people of the United States. "
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 11:21 PM
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4. NOT talking about violence. I just realize that people get killed sometimes in non-violent action.
Edited on Wed Dec-08-10 11:21 PM by originalpckelly
Anyone who reads my posts knows I am committed to non-violence. That is the only way to change things in the long run. That does not mean people will be violent against the non-violent.
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Kaleva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 11:28 PM
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14. Then change it to "I'll glady suffer 10 hours of community service for my actions".
Edited on Wed Dec-08-10 11:32 PM by Kaleva
Of the millions who have protested, in one fashion or another, in the past few decades, only the really bad guys got executed. Timothy McVeigh for one.
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MrMickeysMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 11:31 PM
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17. Jesus, you forgot to add...
... while saying 20 Hail Mary's... What are you, the absolution police?
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 11:35 PM
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23. Gigantic jump a lot Kelva?
Resisting a corporate empire, perhaps with protests or on the internet, that's become blowing up innocent children?

I have seen the results of a terrorist attack, a bomb, first hand. That changes you. It was called bus 41. It came to my school. I knew that day, more so than ever, that violence is NOT the answer to our problems. It just creates more violence, creates an intractable problem, and serves to make the bad guy look good.
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Kaleva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 11:48 PM
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31. I read your note at the bottom which I think was added with an edit.
Edited on Wed Dec-08-10 11:50 PM by Kaleva
Overall, your piece is well written. On first read, I thought the rhetoric rather over the top and the only way to match that rhetoric with action was by using very violent action.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 11:55 PM
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33. I am so sorry about that. To me, it just didn't seem possible someone would see that...
but upon further reading, not understanding that I'm deeply committed to non-violence, you could think that.
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Kaleva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 12:01 AM
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34. No need to apologise. I ought to apologise.
I don't know you or your posting history here and if I had, I wouldn't have come to the conclusion I did because I would have known you weren't advocating actual violence in your OP. I should have asked questions instead of assuming.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 11:24 PM
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6. He was talking about having the will to remain true to yourself
Not physical violence.
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Blecht Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 11:26 PM
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10. -100000000
Nowhere in the OP is there any reference to violence. "Must be" my ass.

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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 11:39 PM
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25. Convoluted. MLK did nothing violent but was jailed & killed.
RFK did nothing violent but was murdered. Assange has committed no violent acts of revolution yet many call for his assassination.

Many non-violent revolutionaries have paid with incarceration and death for their actions.

This was a classic example of pretzel logic.

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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 11:42 PM
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27. That's precisely what I meant. I didn't include my explicit disapproval of violence...
when I first posted this, I always come from the non-violent mindset, so I sometimes forget to make that clear. Sorry about that. It really isn't the poster's fault. It is mine.
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 12:05 AM
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39. I understood you. Then again I've seen people jailed & killed during peaceful resistance. nt
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Kaleva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 11:53 PM
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32. Neither MLK or RFK were executed by the goverment.
Some may argue that they were but then the discussion devolves into conspiracy theories.
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 12:02 AM
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35. I don't believe the OP limited the ways he might die to being killed by the government.
But pretzel on.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 12:04 AM
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36. Yeah, it won't happen, because I'm never going to be prominent enough...
but just say it was some looney who wanted me dead for some strange reason. I'm at the point where I'm willing to risk that.
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 12:13 AM
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41. I grew up in Memphis in the 60's & my parents were civil rights activists.
There were many peaceful civil rights workers who died at the hands of reactionaries there and in other places in the South. Far more whose names we do not remember than those we do. One does not have to be prominent or well known to become a casualty when standing for truth and justice.

I'm also willing to die for the truth if need be. And we may see a time when some will die, again standing for truth and justice. I hope not but I do not shrink from telling the truth out of a fear of death. I see that same spirit in your OP and I commend you for it.
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bigmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 01:50 AM
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43. Even John Lennon and Yoko Ono noticed that people who advocate peace are often killed.
They thought they would try doing it with humor. There were mixed results.
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roody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 12:04 AM
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37. That is a stretch.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 12:05 AM
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38. No, it wasn't. That posting is MY FAULT. I was not clear enough.
That's why I had to edit my post.
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 01:55 AM
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44. So are a lot of other things that originalpckelley absolutely did not do in this thread.
Edited on Thu Dec-09-10 01:55 AM by JackRiddler
The quote describes state violence against the people, and how the writer hopes to react should it be directed against him/her. It does not in any way advocate for violence. It doesn't break any rules, and your alert makes no sense.

Your reading is false and your attempted censorship is outrageous.
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PufPuf23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 02:23 AM
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49. State violence and State terror and State propoganda against People
War is not a necessity but a pathology and the USA is the most war-like and armed nation in recorded history.

I don't like this and neither was I taught this was the Nation's goal.

WikiLeak is interesting regards to USCYBORCOM.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Cyber_Comman...

Role Administration
Part of U.S. Strategic Command
Garrison/HQ Fort Meade, Maryland
Nickname USCYBERCOM or CYBERCOM

Current commander General Keith B. Alexander, USA

The United States Cyber Command (USCYBERCOM) is a United States armed forces sub-unified command subordinate to United States Strategic Command. The command was officially activated May 21, 2010, at Fort Meade, Maryland<1> and reached Full Operational Capability on October 31, 2010.<2> The command is led by National Security Agency/Central Security Service Director General Keith B. Alexander.<3> The command assumes responsibility for several existing organizations. The Joint Task Force for Global Network Operations (JTF-GNO) and the Joint Functional Component Command for Network Warfare (JFCC-NW) are replaced by this new command. The Defense Information Systems Agency, where JTF-GNO now operates, provides technical assistance for network and information assurance to CYBERCOM, and is moving its headquarters to Ft. Meade.<4><5>

more at Wiki and elsewhere on the internet.

The intelligence agencies and DoD have been on the internet before CYBERCOM became active in 2010. I know personally for certain of military involvment in internet message boards in 2005 and would assume this was not a new phenomena even then.

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markfall Donating Member (34 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 11:22 PM
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5. Thats really......something.
This is a complicated issue, but all things considered, i stand on the side without Assange. The man has stated that his aim to harm our country and is currently being portrayed as some sort of moral information philanthropist. Govs have secrets. Thats a universal truth. If there is some overt corruption going on, hopefully one of the folks privy to the info will come forward. This guy just seems to want everything out there with no regard to our countries national security or lives that me affected. I have no love for the man.
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 11:25 PM
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7. Oh please,
The harm being done to our country is from the enemy within, not Assange. Don't kill the messenger.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 11:26 PM
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12. The trick here is to separate Wikileaks from Assange.
Did Wikileaks rape anyone? It's a website/idea/principle, it didn't rape anyone.
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 11:35 PM
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22. Agree and I believe Assange is innocent until
proven guilty.

Wikileaks has given me a sense of vicarious power. How many of us could have done what Assange has done?

No one knows what information he has but, it's getting a lot of play and it may wake some people up. They might even begin to ask questions and demand answers of those who rule over them.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 11:25 PM
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8. Yes, just governments do have secrets. They do not torture in secret.
Or at least I THINK that's how it's supposed to be. Sorry if it's not.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 11:30 PM
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16. I'm going to go out on a limb here.
I think a lot of the recent leaks are counterproductive. The war leaks were one thing, but the diplomatic cables? Those have nothing to do with crimes; most are simply diplomats speaking frankly to each other. Diplomatic cables are confidential for a reason; many leaders around the world will say to us in private what they cannot say to their own people in public (take China's stance on North Korea). The only possible change releasing such documents could create in the world is making it more difficult for other countries to speak truthfully to our diplomats. I'm a fan of finding diplomatic solutions to the world's problems. I don't see why we should be cheering actions that make diplomacy harder.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 11:38 PM
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24. Our government knows that Saudi Arabia's highest people support terrorism.
We know that from those cables. How is that not important to the public debate?

Or the part where Turkey is supporting al-Qaeda in Iraq?

We know that from the cables as well.
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 01:57 AM
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45. You don't seem to have read very much about what's been revealed in the cables...
Edited on Thu Dec-09-10 02:07 AM by JackRiddler
You should do so before repeating the corporate punditry's untrue talking points about how inconsequential the documents are.

Crime, corruption, acts of war, cover-ups and strong-arming other states into accepting bad policy are all over the documents so far released, and 250,000 cables are still on the way. Also, there's been much confirmation in documents of many things that were known but unprovable:

Spying on UN officials by diplomats, in violation of treaty law; Shell's control of the Nigerian government, as stated by a Shell executive; Australian senator at center of recent government change was a US informant; US bombings in Yemen that Yemeni govt falsely claims as its own; outrageous accusation by Yemen that a downed US spy drone was actually Iranian, which is a miniature Gulf of Tonkin incident; Iraqi accusations of Saudi finance for terror and destabilization; US strong-arming Spain and Germany not to investigate the kidnapping and torture of their own citizens; US writing Swedish copyright policy in secret, because it's unpopular with the people; US determination that Honduras had a military coup d'etat kept secret; etc. etc.

All this will prove to be only scratching the surface.
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MrMickeysMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 11:34 PM
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21. That's what they said about Daniel Elsberg..
Edited on Wed Dec-08-10 11:36 PM by MrMickeysMom
If you're old enough to know, and if not... read some history.

Then, realize the cah-cah stains all around your remark, "The man has stated that his aim to harm our country" (I'm guessing you meant "his aim was to harm", which is utter bullshite.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 12:15 AM
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42. He's stated that his aim is to harm our country? Did he really state that? Ours
isn't the only country whose secrets he's spilling. I think people from all over the world are sending him info from their countries, right?

Yes, governments have secrets. That was my first response, too -- it's just how it is and how it's always been done. Then I realized I'd become too complacent and accepting and in that acceptance and complacency our government was harboring secrets that they didn't want exposed because in some cases they were illegal, involved assassinations, involved manipulation of the masses. They've abused their power under the secrecy umbrella and I think it's time to let it all out and make them deal with what they've done. I'm sorry that legitimate confidential information has been compromised, but they betrayed the trust they were given.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 11:26 PM
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9. And tomorrow morning, you'll drink some coffee, go to work, maybe eat a sandwich.
Vive le revolution!
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 11:33 PM
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19. If you know someone is buying you off, the gift doesn't have the same impact.
"Hi Bob, I'm giving you this sweet car, but you have to sell whatever might be in your head to me. It's just selling out yourself, man. Not like you're you're using your morals anyway, right? Not in this country at least."

The argument given by the goods being given to us by the empire will be totally different. It will look false and shallow, like it is. It's going to be a tasty cup of coffee, aside from that nasty taste of tyranny that comes with it.

Even if you act just exactly like a normal person on the outside, something's brewing on the inside. You're whole outlook will be different.
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WHEN CRABS ROAR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 11:26 PM
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11. It fell in my mind long ago.
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tcaudilllg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 11:28 PM
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13. Here here!
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cottonseed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 11:29 PM
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15. Wow. Mom forgets to send the rent money and now this?
Edited on Wed Dec-08-10 11:32 PM by cottonseed
I actually had times when I felt this way 10 or more years ago. I've grown since then and I've gained what I think is called perspective. Good luck with the revolution. I heard those can be nasty dirty things. I hope the new leadership you install is something better then what we have now.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 11:41 PM
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26. No, actually, I'm sitting pretty. At least for me, which isn't saying much.
I have every reason to just let this pass by and do nothing. Materially, I'm doing quite well at the current time. I was actually thinking about this while I was buying groceries today. We have so much, and yet we have absolutely nothing that matters.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 11:34 PM
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20. I like your spirit.
I think there is movement starting as the full truth about the awful power of this empire to reach around the globe and shut down an award-winning news organization dawns on people. Not that we didn't know our own media was controlled by them.

But we thought it was more of a benign control, like 'this is how we do things here, if you want the perks and the salary, just read your lines and you have a great job'. But now we know that they would imprison, smear, maybe even kill any journalist who dared to expose the lies and the corruption. And the world knows it also.

Nothing in the released documents exposed the corruption, the totalitarian nature of this government more than their reaction to a news organization daring to do what journalists are supposed to do.

This will go down in history as one of the darkest periods in the demise of this democracy. The day they shut down a prize-winning news organization, or tried to.

You are not alone at all. ARound the world people are rallying to the cause, and the cause is 'A Free Press'.

If they were smart, they would have gone after the criminals in our government exposed in the leaks, the liars, the torturers, but instead, they protected the torturers, and a curtain has been lifted and the world sees that the world's once great democracy is dead and in its place is a brutal, torturing, murderous government whose mask has finally been removed.
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 11:45 PM
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28. +1000 nt
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 11:47 PM
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30. I agree, +1000...
It's just so plain to those of us who look. If you look, you can't help but find it out.
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 11:46 PM
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29. K & R nt
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 12:12 AM
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40. Goodnight, sweet dreams. And work on that revolution in your mind.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 01:59 AM
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46. I'm in ... but back tomorrow to actually read --
Edited on Thu Dec-09-10 02:00 AM by defendandprotect
and that's provided there is no recommendation for any violence!!

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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 02:00 AM
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47. When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty


"He was Edmond Dants...
and he was my father.
And my mother...
my brother...
my friend.
He was you...
and me.

He was all of us."





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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 02:01 AM
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48. A jail cell with invisible bars
just an illusion. Excellent I'm in.
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 02:31 AM
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50. Here's your "terrorist" badge.
They gave it to lots of us some time ago with the passing of the AETA. Most of what you're saying follows that. Good luck. Keep ya head down, eh?
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