Nullification

[mix]

Poll question: Nullification

Incoming House Majority Leader Eric Cantor is part of a class of Republicans who say they want to change the country fundamentally -- and to that end, Cantor isn't dismissing a plan by legislators in his home state of Virgina to blow up the Constitutional system and replace it with one that would give state governments veto power over federal laws.
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/11/va-legislator-says-gop-congress-wants-to-help-him-deconstruct-the-consitution-video.php?ref=fpa

How republican.

[mmonk]

1. The Confederacy again.

[FiveGoodMen]

3. We should have let them go.

Or ground them into the dust.

Or both.

[bluestateguy]

2. .

[spanone]

4. secession?

[Toucano]

5. Let them start going...secceed - form your own Somalia, if that's what you want.

But you don't get to pick and choose which federal laws apply and which don't.

It's all or nothing.


Typo fix...

[zigzagzed]

6. Articles of Confederation

Why not just rescind the US Constitution and return to the Articles of Confederation? After all, the Tenth Amendment does not state that the states are sovereign, but Article II of the Articles of Confederation does.

[sharp_stick]

10. Oh hell

Articles of Confederation are far too Liberal for these assholes. They want to go back to the Mayflower Compact. I say we should just give ourselves back to the damned British and enforce the Magna Carta... I'm white and I own land so I'll nominate myself to the House of Lords while I enslave my Polish neighbors.

[zigzagzed]

12. But...

But would we get to wear powdered wigs?

[sharp_stick]

18. Damned right

I'll be able to start a shop that sells them and the kindling to burn the damned Protestants, or is the bloody Catholics? I can never remember who the heretics are these days.

[zigzagzed]

19. Why discriminate?

Shouldn't we just declare everyone to be heretics?

[ProgressiveProfessor]

7. You are being a bit hyperbolic

Just how far do you think the Commerce Clause will stretch at this point?

[mix]

8. It's quite elastic.

"To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with Indian Tribes."

[FBaggins]

9. Hard to say that it "blows up the Constitutional system"

Since the proposal is for a Constitutional Amendment... which is the Constitutional system.

As for whether or not it's a good idea? I don't know... it's interesting, but I don't know how much of an impact it would have. If you can get 2/3 of the state legislatures to agree on something, I can't see how you wouldn't have enough support to drive the issue at the federal level as well.

[Kennah]

11. Fascinating

There wasn't a World War One until there was a World War Two.

Makes me wonder who will be on which side of The Second American Civil War.

[mix]

16. One wonders if the first ever ended.

The Reconstruction Amendments, 13th, 14th, and 15th, were successes, but there remains much hatred and anger, particularly among southern conservatives. But this can not be reduced to a regional problem; it is the attitude and character of most among the right nationally.

It is shocking that this is being so publicly opined upon.

[Drale]

13. They can leave if they want

but they can't have any of America's land. If they don't like it they can go to Iran, they have a system that is exactly like what they want.

[Stinky The Clown]

14. This is a dangerous move if preservation of the union matters. On the other hand, who cares?

If they want to leave, this time I think we let 'em go.

[Puregonzo1188]

15. Wasn't this issue already resolved? Well before the Civil War?

[EmeraldCityGrl]

17. Given that I live in a progressive blue state

and am not feeling comfortable about the future of the country as a whole, this is a difficult question.

[zigzagzed]

20. You have a point

It's not just the right who would benefit. But would the Blue States have vetoed the Iraq War Resolution? Or the No Child Left Behind Act? Or even the PATRIOT Act?

[hayu_lol]

21. This really is not a strictly 'southern state' issue...

there are several states located in all parts of the country who will buy into this thing. Arizona for one, Idaho for another, Montana?...maybe.

If the union is ultimately broken, then glad I live on the west coast...California, Oregon, Washington which at least has the ability to protect itself and support itself.