Mary Cheney’s baby is born.

[CatWoman]

Vice President Cheney’s daughter Mary gave birth today to Samuel David Cheney

Under Virginia law, Mary’s partner of 15 years, Heather Poe, “will have no legal relationship with her child. She can’t adopt as a second parent. She won’t have her name on the birth certificate.” President Bush will still not say whether or not he supports gay adoption

http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/23/mary-cheneys-baby-is-born/

[uppityperson]

1. Best of luck to Mary, Heather and Samuel.

[Kikosexy2]

45. (Rose)Mary's baby...

is born...and all Hell broke loose!! The AntiChrist is born!...Poor kid born in the house of evil...

[displacedtexan]

2. Sammy Cheney: Good name.

Works if he ever has gender issues.

I like it.

Too bad about Heather being squeezed out of her rights, though.

That sucks Dick Cheney Big Time.

[Breeze54]

3. Can they move to another state and adopt?

:shrug:

"Under Virginia law, Mary’s partner of 15 years, Heather Poe,

“will have no legal relationship with her child."

This is outrageous, even for Cheney's daughter!!

:kick: & Recommended!

[AllegroRondo]

11. I beleive they can, but would have to stay in that state

long enough to establish residency first.

[peace frog]

4. The Cheney family philosophy:

"Good for me, but not for thee."

"Now get back in the closet, you lazy Democrat scumbags!"

[Javaman]

79. Even simpler than that....

"I know you are, but what am I?"

[Marrah_G]

5. Living in Mass I find myself wondering more and more how we can still be a part of...

a country so backwards that gay adoption and marriage is even an issue. I have less and less desire to leave the northeast and travel anywhere else in the country. Honestly, the more time goes by the more I feel disconntected from the rest of the country.

Congrats to Mary Cheney and Heather Poe. I hope they wake up and start speaking out and fighting for their new family.

[Lex]

15. "I hope they wake up and start speaking out and fighting for their new family."

Me too. It pisses me off to no end that they do not.

[eleny]

6. Poor baby. Born with a silver turd in it's mouth.

I was just wondering about Mary this morning.

Since nothing has been on the tv about her. Figured she must be pretty far along. Evidently, farther along than I thought.

[Stephanie]

7. Why can't she adopt?

that's incredible!

[Lex]

12. Virginia law forbids it.

nt

[bullwinkle428]

76. KO made the state of Virginia his "Worst Person in the World" last night!

WRT to Heather Poe's lack of parental rights... :applause: for Keith!

[jgraz]

8. And what a beautiful baby he is

[BurtWorm]

18. It's got Grandpa's heart!

[Ilsa]

9. I hope the three of them are doing well.

Having a baby is a wonderful time in a couple's life.

If I was them, I think I'd try to move to a more progressive state so Heather could have some parental rights.

[BurtWorm]

10. So if Mary has inherited her father's rum ticker, or if Dick takes her quail hunting

and she winds up dead, Mary's partner of 15 years won't have an automatic right to guardianship of the child?

Why don't they move to Maryland? (Assuming MD is more liberal, of course.)

[terrya]

13. That's nice

Now I'm just giddy with joy.

I think we know the answer to the last comment.

[cboy4]

14. Do we really have to wait and hear whether Bush supports

gay adoption, before we come to the conclusion that of course he does not?

To believe Bush supports anything gay related is remarkable, in a naive way.

edit spell

[EFerrari]

16. The poor thing. n/t

[enid602]

37. At least he was born into the top 1% income bracket . . .

. . . and will not be expected to pay for grandpa's war(s).

[EFerrari]

39. Unless he gets dead when the planet is blown up.

Cheney Family Values.

[MLFerrell]

61. "...will not be expected to pay for grandpa's war(s)."

Or expected to fight in them...

[hlthe2b]

17. Hard to know what to say....

Mixed feelings for the child, for sure... Congratulations? I hope and pray the child won't grow up to be anything like his Grandfather....

[Beaverhausen]

19. Best wishes to the happy family

Hope he pees on his granddad.

[Captain Hilts]

20. Love Child, never meant to be.....nt

[Clark2008]

21. Good! Can I get her to come touch me so I can get my baby

out?

I'm 37 weeks, but I have large babies, so little miss is already nearly eight pounds. I'm tired. I want to bend again and I want to see my little girl.

Good luck to Mary, Heather and Samuel.

Now... BRING ON HANNAH-BETH, PLEASE!!!

:hi:

[Ilsa]

22. Some of the comments from the site:

Poor little baby! the Dick as a grandfather… what a load to carry through life!

It’s too bad Mary’s partner did not have the baby - then Dick and Lynn would have no grandparent rights either.

Ah, fresh blood for Darth Cheney’s external baboon heart…

I heard the child already has a deferment from the war some Republican President will get us into in 18 years (After 8 years of Hillary and 8 years of Obama). :-)

[dweller]

23. some heartfelt advice to the proud parents ...

NEVER EVER LEAVE THE CHILD ALONE WITH THE GRANDFATHER !

yes, you know which one i'm speaking of... otherwise, congrats.

dp

[democrat2thecore]

28. In all fairness - Cheney has been alright with Mary

As much as I HATE Dick Cheney (not too strong a word for that guy), he has made it pretty clear he supports his daughter, believes she and her partner should have equal rights under the law and, by all accounts, have welcomed Heather into the family with open arms. A crook and bastard in every other respect, but I think it's good for the whole family that the grandfather, in this instance, will PROBABLY treat Samuel David like every other one of his grandchildren. This is the first - and last time - I will ever write anything close to positive about Dick Cheney.

[dweller]

30. sorry, but

this isn't about Mary.

dp

[democrat2thecore]

31. Sorry, but check the thread title --nt

[dweller]

35. yep, says 'baby' ... n/t

dp

[democrat2thecore]

41. Why cause trouble with this?

I was merely stating a response to the post that she should keep the baby away from the grandfather. I simply pointed out that the family is a lot more accepting than most. A lot of people don't realize this. That has EVERYTHING to do with the baby. By the way, using your own policing standards of CatWoman's thread, you brought the grandfather into it - it's not about him either. Or wasn't, until you brought it up. One standard, dweller.

Also, a lot of women would disagree with you that childbirth is only about the baby. We wish Mary well. Samuel's birth to MARY very much makes her part of the story. Babies aren't dropped into a dish, grow and handed to the mother when they are "ready." Mary carried that child for nine months. She and Heather are celebrating this day and Mary is to be wished all the best and congratulations on the healthy birth of her new son.

To carry on an argument with this sub-thread would be just more of what's going on too much lately at DU. Eat our own. I don't get it.

[dweller]

72. what, pray tell, trouble

am i causing with this? I posted my opinion and advice concerning the baby AS IF the parents would ever read it. I don't harbor any fantasy that they might. It had to do with the baby, imo, its well-being.
Half-tongue-in-cheek, half dead serious.

If you want to stand up and laud that warmonger's magnanimous attitude, please do so on your own and not presuppose that he will treat the child 'like every other one of his grandchildren' when it's barely a day old, and berate me for voicing my opinion here otherwise. If anyone has stepped into the shoes of the thread police, you led the way.

My point concerned the baby: you brought up Mary Cheney/Dickhead's relationship.
I returned to my point 'this is not about Mary' and you want me to 'check the thread title'? :freak:
Nice dig at my reading comprehension.

If, and when, i see any one of the present maladministration applying an open and free policy concerning anyone OUTSIDE their own, ie, to the hundred thousands of other gay and lesbian couples denied rights, then i'll perhaps be more open in my graciousness towards them.

"Also, a lot of women would disagree with you that childbirth is only about the baby."

I did not propose anything of the sort. Don't put words in my mouth.

"We wish Mary well. Samuel's birth to MARY very much makes her part of the story."

I also sent regards to both parents.

"Babies aren't dropped into a dish, grow and handed to the mother when they are "ready." Mary carried that child for nine months."

save me the biology lesson: I have 2 daughters, was there for more than 9 months, I attended the births, I cut the cords and I handed them both to their mother, and I had complete custody of them both when their mom and i divorced.

"To carry on an argument with this sub-thread would be just more of what's going on too much lately at DU.

heh, you first.

Eat our own. I don't get it."

eventually, you may. It might take some self-reflection though. But don't bother, you're needed here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x953734#954125

have a nice day.
dp

[Madspirit]

43. Umm...check thread title...n/t

[Madspirit]

44. You're right

...but that just pisses me, a lesbian, off more. So what if he's nice to his daughter while watching the rest of us get screwed.
Lee

[democrat2thecore]

50. Good point!

I don't blame you one bit, Lee. I would feel the same way and agree with you completely. While I can't say I feel it like you can - I can certainly stand in solidarity and I do!! Keep up the fight for justice.

[Madspirit]

52. At Least the Baby

At least the baby will be treated well and that is important.
Lee

[SoCalDem]

66. Huh? That's why she was not "allowed" on the stage with them

and why her dear ole daddy bristles every time her name is mentioned?

[alstephenson]

24. I can't wait to see what they have to say about this in Freeperland! eom

[Arkansas Granny]

27. I looked a little while ago and either they don't know about it yet

or they are ignoring it. Most of them were none too happy to hear about her pregnancy, however.

[CatWoman]

33. bwahahahahahaha

I don't wish "the best" for Samuel.... "The best" is an abstract, feel-good catch phrase.
I wish Samuel a father.
**********************************************************

Which do you think he will wish for someday - useless words of encouragement, or an actual dad?
*******************************************************************

Very sad circumstance. Poor kid.
**************************************************************
“So who’s dad? “
Turk E. Baster


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1838643/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1838644/posts

[Arkansas Granny]

36. Well, they deleted the picture of the turkey baster already.

[Arkansas Granny]

47. And now they've pulled the thread!

[SpiralHawk]

60. Typical republicon CENSORSHIP

They don't want Americans to see the flag-covered caskets coming back from Iraq,
and so they dishonor our soldiers who gave the ultimate sacrifice by hiding them from public view.

They they hide Mary Cheney's baby, afraid their typical republicon hypocricy will show.

Censorship and propaganda -- never the plain truth -- that's the republicon way.

[Arkansas Granny]

73. They have another thread up now, and while some are wishing

them well, there are a lot of comments that are definitely not pretty. I don't which is worse, their ignorance or their hateful comments.

[Madspirit]

46. Repugs

When I used to lurk at Ann Coulter's, (I am making a website making fun of her but I never could keep my mouth shut and so got booted...of course), they simply NEVER mention Mary Cheney. NOT EVER. It's like she doesn't exist.
Lee

[Jack Rabbit]

25. Congratulations to Mary and Heather

!!

[Arkansas Granny]

26. Best wishes for the entire family. I found some very interesting

statistics the other day while posting on another thread here.

The Effects of Marriage, Civil Union, and Domestic Partnership Laws on the Health and Well-being of Children

<snip>

Specific Census 2000 findings include:

Same-gender couples live in 99.3% of all US counties.

Same-gender couples are raising children in at least 96% of all US counties.

Nearly one quarter of all same-gender couples are raising children.

Nationwide, 34.3% of lesbian couples are raising children, and 22.3% of gay male couples are raising children (compared with 45.6% of married heterosexual and 43.1% of unmarried heterosexual couples raising children).

Vermont has the largest aggregation of same gender-couples (1% of all households) followed by California, Washington, Massachusetts, and Oregon.

Regionally, the South has the highest percentage of same-gender couples who are parents; 36.1% of lesbian couples and 23.9% of gay couples in the South are raising children.

The second highest percentage is seen in the Midwest, where 34.7% of lesbian couples and 22.9% of gay couples are parenting children.

In the West, 33.1% of lesbian couples and 21.1% of gay couples are parents.

In the Northeast, 32.6% of lesbian couples and 21.7% of gay couples are raising children.

The states with the highest percentages of lesbian couples raising children are Mississippi (43.8%), South Dakota and Utah (42.3% each), and Texas (40.9%).

The states with the highest percentages of gay male couples raising children are Alaska (36%), South Dakota (33%), Mississippi (31%), and Idaho and Utah (30% each).

Six percent of same-gender couples are raising children who have been adopted compared with 5.1% of heterosexual married couples and 2.6% of unmarried heterosexual couples.

Eight percent of same-gender parents are raising children with special health care needs, compared with 8.3% of heterosexual unmarried parents and 5.8% of heterosexual married parents.

Of same-gender partners raising children, 41.1% have been together for 5 years or longer, whereas 19.9% of heterosexual unmarried couples have stayed together for that duration.

More here:

http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/cgi/content/full/118/1/349

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

29. So where is the photo of the proud Mamas? I think that Heather is in a terrible position

and if I were her, would insist upon moving to another state where she can acquire parental rights.

[Horse with no Name]

32. What is frightfully sad

Is that Dickless Cheney has rights to the child that it's own mother does not have.
If Heather and Mary split, you can rest assured she will never see that child again.
Very sad. Not a situation I would ever want to be in nor would I wish on anyone else.

[CatWoman]

34. pic of the proud grandparents

[Parche]

42. Pic

What is that ugly thing on the left?? She forgot her broomstick :rofl: :rofl: :hi:
OH MEOW

[CatWoman]

48. LOL

A cat tree!!!!

:hi:

[SoCalDem]

67. Don't you be dissin' the Green Hornet n/t

[orleans]

38. to hell with mary cheney. she's a horrible, wicked person. n/t

[entanglement]

40. Just curious, but who's the biological dad?

n/t

[CatWoman]

49. I don't think that info has ever been devulged

:shrug:

[SheWhoMustBeObeyed]

57. Probably never will be. The moms may not even know his name.

A couple I know have had two children by artificial insemination. They know a lot about him, like his health and scholastic histories (and his race - important to them that the kids carry the racial characteristics of both moms) but they don't know his identity. The clinic knows, though. I'm sure tons of privacy agreements ensure that it won't be revealed.

[enid602]

58. Believe me . . .

YOU DON'T WANT TO KNOW!!!!!!!!!!

[Sequoia]

51. Well, that's mean...her partner not being a part of the family.

Maybe Mary's partner should've had the baby instead.

[AzDar]

53. ..Born of a jackal on the plains of Megiddo, in the town of Jezreel..

he shall bear the number of the Beast: 1-20-2001...
:rofl:

[jasmeel]

54. ICK! I feel sorry for that child but I'm sure it'll be a hypocritical

douche like it's family.

[grace0418]

55. Well, it's good for him that his grandpa won't make him suffer the same fate that

so many other children of gay parents suffer. He'll be just fine. Too bad for everyone else.

[The Doctor.]

56. Hmph... today's my son's birthday. Great.

Sorry all, but fuck Mary Cheney.

She's the figurehead of acceptance of second-class citizenship by homosexuals.

I wish the child luck. With a mother like her he'll need it.

[Ilsa]

59. The screenshot on the website has the funniest crawler...

something about convicted murderer Charles Manson. How odd that this specific name came up under Cheney's picture.

[Geek_Girl]

62. I'm happy for the Cheneys

Children are a wonderful blessing. And it's great that Dick Cheney supports his daughter.

However I can't help but think about the fundie's that support republicans like Cheney and vote for them exclusively on anti-gay issues.

[kskiska]

63. This baby will be the only grandchild to carry the Cheney name

The other grandchildren bear the surname of their fathers.

[CatWoman]

64. great observation, Kathy!!

:hi:

[kskiska]

71. I guess Mary's the son he never had.

It's doubtful he'll get to know his grandpa.

:hi: Hi Cat!!!

[knitter4democracy]

65. Dang. I forgot to make the sweater I had planned.

Rainbow colors, of course. ;)

Maybe some booties?

[SoCalDem]

68. Here's one you could copy..it's even blue

[knitter4democracy]

75. What an adorable sweater!

I have some hand-dyed machine wash wool that I was thinking of using in all rainbow colors. :)

[Octafish]

69. Is THIS the story?

Sharks Virgin Birth Stuns Scientists

[BeHereNow]

70. TOO funny- come to think of it, there IS a resemblence to the Cheney baby.

Bwahahah.
BHN

[tammywammy]

74. Congrats to the Cheney's.

I pray the mothers are doing well with their new additon.

[BlueIris]

77. She gets points for an adorable name.

I hope mothers and baby are doing fine.

[Maru Kitteh]

78. Oh look! It's a glass-half-full freeper ............

To: ansel12
According to the very latest studies, lesbians have significantly fewer abortions than heterosexual women. So, that should count for something.



70 posted on 05/23/2007 3:19:31 PM PDT by durasell (!)
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Um, yeah. I wonder why! Brain surgeon.