LOL this place cracks me up

[Egnever]

Oh the horror! We lost a mid term! As if that has not happened in nearly every midterm in presidential history.

Its cause Obama is finished! RIIIIGHT cause clinton was done when he lost his midterm too right?


The white house surrenders! The pukes are in control!


LOL the chicken little crap here today is comical.

We still have the presidency and the senate. The house does not control all of washington. What happened yesterday despite what the media tells you is normal. It has happened time and time again and if anything this will give the pukes the rope they need to hang themselves once again. Its easy to take potshots from the sidelines now they actually have to do something besides say no. No matter what they do they still have to get their crap past the senate and the president.

IMHO as in the past we now have two years of being able to point out how the Pukes got nothing or if they actually do come up with something how amazingly horrible that something is.

The fact that so many who where here last week screaming how they can vote for anyone they want or not vote at all are now here today crying like stuck pigs cause we lost a mid term is freaking hilarious!

What a mess this place has become.

[tabatha]

1. And Ed is a mess, too.

[Andy823]

2. Amen to that! K&R

Couldn't have said it better myself, thanks!

[HopeHoops]

3. Troll alert.

[dionysus]

9. .

:rofl:

[stray cat]

13. LOL!

[WilliamPitt]

68. (facepalm)

[Egnever]

71. What a long strange trip its been

[WilliamPitt]

76. Series!!11!1!1!!1!!!!!

:rofl:

[leftstreet]

4. unRec

'crying like stuck pigs'

:eyes:

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[Subdivisions]

6. Who the fuck are you?!? You don't even have 20,000 posts yet! n/t

[Egnever]

17. Will try do to more navel gazing here

To rectify that. My apologies.

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[alcibiades_mystery]

7. For reals

:thumbsup:

[quinnox]

8. uh huh, and when the Senate folds like a cheap suit to the GOP

House, whatcha say then Willis? You know its gonna happen.

[Egnever]

11. Well according to you its been happening since Obama got elected

So I really cant take your opinion seriously.

[Kurovski]

10. You make excellent points, and...

there are always lessons ro be learned at each election, Elections are supposed to also be "job evaluations."

Desperation can color responses, not always in a rational way, but emotion is...emotion.

[Scurrilous]

12. + 1

:thumbsup:

[gratuitous]

14. Your concern is duly noted

Thank you for your input.

[Egnever]

18. My pleasure

GOBAMA!

[Renew Deal]

15. lol

I love the WH surrenders bit. :rofl:

[DevonRex]

16. I've waited a long time for this site to actually support Democrats.

Now I realize it never will.

[Egnever]

19. Nope it jumped the shark here quite a while ago.

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[Individualist]

21. DLC bloviation cracks me up.

"It reminds me of a string of wet sponges; it reminds me of tattered washing on the line; it reminds me of stale bean soup, of college yells, of dogs barking idiotically through endless nights. It is so bad that a sort of grandeur creeps into it. It drags itself out of the dark abysm of pish, and crawls insanely up the topmost pinnacle of posh. It is rumble and bumble. It is flap and doodle. It is balder and dash." H. L. Mencken

[joeybee12]

22. Lol, it cracks me up when people like you love to lose elections you should be winning

easily.

[jgraz]

27. Amazing, isn't it

I mean, we all knew the "sensible center" had no clue they were about to lose the election for us. What I didn't anticipate was how much joy it would give them to see the Dems get their asses kicked.

[Egnever]

29. Your revisionist history is hilarious

We knew we would lose this election months ago and as stated above it has happened time and again in midterms since we started having them.

Asses kicked would have been losing both the house and the senate. All that happened is the house readjusted the gains we wouldn't even have had had the previous admin not been so shockingly bad.

But don't let me stop you from your pity party.

[jgraz]

30. I'm just glad you're getting such a rush from this loss.

If your view prevails, you're gonna LOVE 2012.

[Egnever]

35. Well again since you have been right about so very little in all the years i have seen you post

I'll give your thoughts the attention they merit.


Thanks for continuing to kick my laughing at you thread :)

[jgraz]

38. Good point. I think we've given you all the attention your little cry for help deserves.

I'm gonna go back to the adults' table now. :hi:

[Egnever]

41. Awww your insults are wounding me to the core

Dont you mean you are going back to your Obama bashing?

[apocalypsehow]

62. +1

[RaleighNCDUer]

75. Nope.

We knew we would lose seats. That is expected at midterms. Flipping the house is another matter entirely, and THAT was not a foregone conclusion except for those who have been promoting it for the past six months - you know, the Republicans.

If you have also been saying it...

[onenote]

78. really? Anyone who has been fearful that we'd lose the house is secretly a repub?

I'll mention that to the Democratic staffers -- folks who have put more hours and money into Democratic campaigns than you ever will -- who months ago were privately discussing the very real chance we'd lose the house, based simply on the fact that we'd picked up over 50 seats from the repubs in the past four years and thus had a huge base of vulnerable incumbents in districts that historically had elected repubs and where voting out an incumbent was clearly not a big hurdle. Add to that the state of the economy even a year ago, and the fact that there also were a lot of retiring Democrats in districts that were not solidly blue, the risk has been there for some time, unless there was a significant and sudden improvement in the jobs picture, which there wasn't.

[Egnever]

28. Love to lose elections?

Just because I recognize its normal doesnt mean I love it.

[CakeGrrl]

37. Exactly. Why can't someone say something reasonable without

having it spun into hyperbole? That's the kind of crap that turns threads into flameouts.

I agree with your OP.

[SidDithers]

23. K&R...nt

Sid

[lamp_shade]

24. Well said, Egnever. Big rec from me.

[eissa]

25. I've been saying the same since Tuesday

Yeah, it was worse than what I hoped -- I'm still not over losing Feingold and Grayson -- but not unexpected. Midterms usually go to the opposition, especially in tough times. Americans are incredibly impatient, and generally stupid. Sorry, but there it is. I don't know what else you can say about an electorate that threw out the party that created this mess, only to vote them back in because we couldn't undo 8 years worth of disaster in 2 short years.

The republicans have NO plan. So far, I've only heard that they plan to obstruct the president at every opportunity, repeal the health plan (which will get vetoed), get rid of the Department of Education and the EPA (because we don't need no fancy book learnin, and breathing is overrated), and introduce impeachment hearings. I think this is great! The only thing that could further guarantee a win for us in 2012 is if they run Palin (*crosses fingers*)

[Egnever]

34. Agreed

They cant force a damn thing through because of this election. They have no plans and now that they cant just sit in the shadows and vote no its going to become glaringly obvious once again.

Sadly the public is too busy in their own lives to really pay attention and god knows with things like the HCR you really have to be paying attention to recognize all of the good things that are coming from it.

You said it well though.

This election IMHO wasn't about Dems or republicans IMHO it was about washington and the displeasure of the average joe with the whole lot of them. There were a couple anomalies like Feingold but over all most of the loses were totally predictable.

[RaleighNCDUer]

43. As if that makes a damn bit of difference.

What they CAN do is not only block anything getting out of the Senate - now they can also keep anything from getting TO the senate. As little as was accomplished in the first two years, that will seem like a tidal wave compared to what we will accomplish in the next two years. Your blue dogs have been replaced by Republicans and this will be the ultimate 'do nothing' congress - but since we control the Senate and the Presidency, it will be blamed on the damn librul Democrats.

BTW, all that good coming from HCR? That mostly kicks in two years AFTER we lose in 2012 - it will be long since repealed before we see any of it.

[Egnever]

48. LOL "as little as was accomplished in the last two years"

http://www.tnr.com/blog/jonathan-cohn/78920/liberal-overreach-evan-bayh-election

In the short four years that she wielded the gavel, she presided over what may have been the most productive legislative period in modern history, starting with enactment of the Fair Minimum Wage Act in 2007 and culminating in passage of Wall Street regulation, an overhaul of student loans, and a comprehensive health care reform bill that her party had been pursuing for nearly a century

[RaleighNCDUer]

58. Quantity does not = quality.

Increasing the minimum wage w/o indexing it to inflation is just asking for another 15 years to go by without an increase. Wall street regulation that does not separate banks from mortgage banks and speculative investment services is just asking for this derivatives crap to happen again in just another form down the road - another year, another bubble - and nobody went to jail. Student loan reform is ok, as far as it went, but the fact is we should be providing post-secondary education free of charge, just as it is done in so many other places around the world, if we intend to stay competitive; a change that leaves a kid owing 50 thousand upon graduation instead of 65 thousand is NOT change. And, your comprehensive health care reform bill is not comprehensive, nor is it health care reform - it is limited health insurance reform, by which the insurance companies will profit handsomely while millions continue to be unable to get health care whether insured or not.

Wanna try again?

[Egnever]

61. its never good enough is it?

You can nit pick anything the fact is progress was made in all those areas. Yup it would have been nice if all that legislation had gone farther but part of that majority we held was blue dogs and to get anything passed we needed their votes. And still we got them and moved forward.

no need to try again you deliberately ignore the good things while focusing only on what you didnt get. Thats a pretty sad way to live but if its what you want to do its certainly your perogative.

I recognize both and while there is certainly things i would have liked to see done better that doesnt take away from the progress that WAS made. 30 million more with access to insurance is progress even if you refuse to admit it.Because of finacial reform I can longer be charged for overdrafts that is progress,Because ofHCR i no longer have to worry about my Diabetic son losing his coverage. That is progress. The investments made in alternative energy in the stimulus bill is huge progresss.

Theres tons of great things this admoin has done you just chose to be blinded by the hate the media has been spewing at you 24/7 for the last two years and focus instead only on what didnt get done. Again your perogative to be sure. But you will have to excuse me if I dont join you in that defeatist bullshit.

[RaleighNCDUer]

63. Here's your precious health care reform.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x9476103

You do realize, don't you, that the complaints I have are the things the media is NOT talking about. I can't be parroting media talking points about things they AREN'T saying. When was the last time you heard ANY talking head decry the lack of a public option in HCR? Where are all the media figures demanding that the CEOs of CitiBank and Goldman Sachs go to jail?

You are arguing for half measures because you don't WANT any better - it runs against what our corporate masters envision for us.

Well, this election is the results you've been asking for - this is the ONLY possible result of these policies. Forgive me for wanting better.

[Egnever]

66. LOL More defeatist crap

Aetna made a higher profit this year so HCR=BAD not only defeatist but ignorant as well. Instead of being happy that HCR puts a mandate on per dollar spending so that profits will be limited going forward you decry the fact that AETNA made a higher profit before the rules have gone into effect.

I am arguing for progress not bullshit pie in the sky wishes. I would love to have single payer and CEOs in jail that doesn't mean it will or can happen in our current political climate.

Again this election result was almost boringly predictable. It has happened time and again in mid terms with very few exceptions. If you think pissing on your own party because you didn't get everything you want helps avoid yesterdays outcome well lets just say ive had similar hallucinations on mushrooms.

Again I want progress i want to move forward not fight to gridlock for purity. Take a step forward and then another thats what I want and I think this admin has taken quite a few steps forward. I can actually point to many of them in my life.

[RaleighNCDUer]

70. If you think we're going to see any progress from here out, you are delusional.

Cheerleading for the blue dogs who kept us from attaining what we could have done when we had the 60 seats pretty much says it all.

It is all about you, isn't it.

"Because of finacial reform I can longer be charged for overdrafts that is progress,Because ofHCR i no longer have to worry about my Diabetic son losing his coverage. That is progress."

Down here at the poverty line, if we want to avoid overdrafts we don't overcharge our accounts. Cool that your son is covered, for now, but since the system is built entirely on private insurance that could change at any time - and as soon as they find the right loophole, I guarantee you it will.

Of course, it may not take that long. The other side plans to repeal this health insurance support bill - and since any new legislation will be written by the health insurance companies, guess what parts are going to go away. Unless Obama and the Senate stands up and does not compromise it away - making compromises on what is already a badly compromised bill.

I won't tell you I told you so - just remember this conversation.

[Egnever]

74. LOL Yes I am rich!

It must suck to be that cynical.

If i can point to things in my life that have improved as an example of progress this admin has made that makes it all about me?

I cant wait to tell the wife how well we are suddenly doing, I had no idea! How long have you been the only poor person in America?

[CommonSensePLZ]

26. Agreeing before

They lock this for you posting a thread that hurts board members' feelings.

[Chulanowa]

31. Whatyou're seeing is people voicing their hopes and dreams

Hard to keep this boat floating with these stupid motherfuckers drilling holes everywhere.

[treestar]

32. K&R

the most hilarious part is they've spent months "threatening" us they are not inspired or motivated and now claim they did vote and did all they could!

[SargeUNN]

33. K&R

[RaleighNCDUer]

36. There is a slight difference between the Clinton midterms and the Obama midterms.

Clinton capitulated to the right after the midterms. Obama did his capitulating before them.

Try and puzzle out what THAT is leading us.

[Egnever]

39. Theres lots of differences.

but the theme remains the same, the party in power loses the mid terms time and again. Its not the least bit unusual or unexpected. I disagree with your premise completely . I think obama wants to get shit done instead of holding out for ideological purity and that exactly why I voted for him in the first place so I couldn't be more pleased with this president. The gains he has made may not be as large as I would have liked but despite the DU bullshit hes a republican meme that you seem to buy into we have made considerable progress since he got into office.


The difference between us I think is I recognize there is oposition to his goals(and lots of it), you seem to believe he could propose anything and get it done.

[RaleighNCDUer]

46. And most of that opposition came from your fucking blue dogs -

and that is the ONE consolation I come away from this election with.

If your fucking blue dogs had not been in-party obstructionists we COULD have had a public option, we COULD have had real financial reform, we COULD have seen the criminal acts of the previous administration investigated and punished. We HAD the 60 seats.

Well, all chance of accomplishing anything for the next two years has gone bye bye. Now, assuming the Senate and Obama don't roll over for the repubs, THEY won't get anything done either - but then, that's not their goal. Their ONLY goal is to stop US from doing anything.

Thanks.

[Egnever]

53. My blue dogs?

They arent mine. Having said that without them there would have been no financial reform at all there wouldnt be any health care reform at all none of the legislation we saw in this admin would have been there cause we wouldnt have held the house or the senate.

Your problem is yoiu ignore reality. You couldnt get anything but blue dog dems in most of those seats anything else would have been rejected outright. In fact the only reason you had them in those seats at all was because Bush created such a train wreck the whole country was sick of republicans even republicans. People have had two years to forget how horrible it really was and like the short aatention span theater society we are they went back to their old voting patterns. Big surprise there :roll:

Course we didnt help ourselves at all by constantly bitching that what the president did get passed even with all thew blue dogs oposing most of it wasnt enough....

Played right into the pukes hands with that garbage.

[no limit]

40. And with all the amazing work democrats with with 60 senators and huge house majority

I can't wait to see all the amazing work they do now that they lost the house and their 60 vote majority in the senate went to 58 and now to 53.

[Egnever]

42. Me either!

Bet you're happy as hell you got some pukes in there to get things done arent ya?

[no limit]

45. It seems like they will get more done now. Now they have a excuse

an excuse for putting social security on the chopping block and extending the tax cuts for the richest americans. Gibbs said today, he will compromise with the republicans on this. The only problem is they don't seem to understand that if a bully comes and demands my $10 and I give him $9.50 instead then that's not really a compromise.

So I am really happy for the democrats, they finally have a real excuse for pissing on the middle class. I'm sure it was really difficult having to live with the burden of that lie about how they wanted to help us all this time. They are finally free!

[DainBramaged]

47. If we had a real leader in the Senate and a President who LISTENED to HIS base

maybe I'd agree.

[grahamhgreen]

49. Actually , we have half the Govt.- Executive & Senate, they have Judicial & Congress

[Egnever]

54. True

[K8-EEE]

50. K&R, I wonder if we have a lot of very young people here

Folks, this is politics, and a pretty regular part of American politics is flipping midterms.

There was no tsunami. It was a storm and one we will recover on. Soldier on!

[RaleighNCDUer]

59. Midterm losses are expected. Flipping, not so much. nt

[Pryderi]

51. Repugs gained control of 500 state house seats and will now control redistricting 2011

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

52. "crying like stuck pigs cause we lost a mid term "

The dictionary really need to add the word "assholic."

[Egnever]

56. Ya!

Then I could use it all the time here!

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[AnArmyVeteran]

65. Nope, I clearly said Obama & dems didn't do enough.

And that's the exact opposite of any republican talking points. And I'm no lunatic. If being a lunatic is expecting your president to fight for what is right then there are millions of 'lunatics' out there.

[Egnever]

69. The idea he never fought for whats right

is what makes me suspect lunacy.

Cspan has hours and hours of footage of him fighting for whats right. What he got for his fight may not be what you wanted but the idea he isn't fighting is well, lunacy.

[RaleighNCDUer]

73. Like his fight for the public option. That was a good one.

Lasted all of 15 minutes before he said it wasn't crucial to health care reform.

[Egnever]

77. Like I said upthread

You chose to only focus on what you didnt get and ignore all the good you did. Your perogative but I'll pass on that. Thanks for playing though.

[HughMoran]

60. Visual representation

[pipi_k]

64. Well, as disappointing as it was, I still see a silver lining...

Maybe after two years of Republican fuckups and stonewalling, people will take their anger out on them, leaving the stage open for Obama re-election.

And maybe even the ouster of some Republicans in Congress who might be up for re-election too.


We just never know...

[Egnever]

67. If history is any indicator

I think you are probably on to something.

[AspenRose]

72. I think a lot of that depends on the economy

If the economy doesn't recover, all bets are off

[pipi_k]

79. Well, I've heard that some parts of the economy

have improved some, even though many people haven't felt the effects.

Maybe another two years will ramp it up a bit more.

We can only hope...

:)