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goddess40 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 06:56 AM
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Which party initiated NCLB? and do we have the name of the person(s)?
I had a very right wing high school principal state that since the democrats initiated the bill they are responsible for all of it's contents. You'd have to be stupid to actually believe that but I don't think a democrat even started the damn thing.
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 06:59 AM
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1. Ted Kennedy was one of the original sponsors
but in his form there was alot of money to assist "failing schools" to improve and that was stripped out and instead put in were very harsh "penalties" and ridiculous goals (ALL students pass by 2011 or thereabouts.)
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 07:00 AM
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2. More... I believe that the origins of the idea date back to Bush1
per testing goals and standards set by states - and was carried on by Clinton. Under one the program was America 2000 and the other was Goals 2000 or something like that. Would have to find old course readers from ed policy work in the mid 90s for the details.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 07:38 AM
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10. Kennedy is also sponsoring the Immigration bill which is flawed. Barbara Boxer and Dorgan
introduced an Amendment to cut out the nebulous guest worker program and Kennedy was going ballistic.
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Debau2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 07:01 AM
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3. According to this Boehner
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hyphenate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 07:05 AM
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4. IIRC
Bush as governor of Texas initiated it there before it became national. I've heard enough people--students, parents and teachers--all complain that the law doesn't work. It's another broken shard of all the criminal things this administration has perpetrated.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 07:40 AM
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11. NLCB was based on the Houston Miracle, which was later outed as being a fraudulent
program.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 07:07 AM
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5. Both.
There were state versions in place in some states well before GWB made it to Washington.

For republicans, it's one more tool to accomplish their publicly stated agenda; to abolish the federal dept of ed and privatize public ed. They've been working on this at least since Reagan.

For Democrats, I believe it is a way to show that they support the down-trodden, by writing and supporting laws to "close the achievement gap." The fact that this pos law does not help the students it purports to is beside the point. Ted Kennedy and George Miller are co-authors and big supporters.

Having taught under a state version when Pete Wilson was governor of CA, and now the federal NCLB, I can say that Democrats' participation in and support of this law is a deal-breaker. If Democrats do not vigorously oppose the reauthorization of NCLB in congress THIS YEAR, they've lost me.

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JTFrog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 07:12 AM
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6. The two original sponsors
were Bush and Kennedy. NCLB was partially based on education reform strategies instituted by Bush during his tenure as Texas governor.

Kennedy blames the failure of the program on the fact that Bushies won't fully fund the program.

Of course putting a person in charge of the program in 2004 who has never worked in a school system and has no formal training in education was a typically brilliant move by Bush.

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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 07:28 AM
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9. Fully funding a law
written to help destroy public education isn't the answer, and Senator Kennedy should know better.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 07:13 AM
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7. Several teachers have told me that NCLB is a good concept
but it has no funding. The requirements are there but Bush has failed to fund it. Ted Kennedy has decried the lack of funding many times.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 07:20 AM
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8. Don't forget Dr. Rod Paige:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/government/paige-bio.html

Paige is the first school superintendent ever to serve as Secretary of Education. His vast experience as a practitioner-from the blackboard to the boardroom-paid off during the long hours of work needed to pass President Bush's No Child Left Behind Act of 2001 (NCLB).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rod_Paige

On February 23, 2004, at a White House meeting with the nation's governors, Paige criticized the National Education Association (NEA) for obstructing "No Child Left Behind's historic education reforms," calling the NEA a "terrorist organization." He later said it "was an inappropriate choice of words" and apologized later the same day, but maintained that the NEA uses "obstructionist scare tactics" in opposing the law. The union called for his resignation.
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goddess40 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 07:36 AM
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12. Thanks, and thank you to everyone that helped
I'm going to put a little something together on this issue for my son's principal.
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