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amerikat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 10:30 PM
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I voted for the Green Party candidate for Governor in NY.
I knew Cuomo had it locked up. Paladino is giving his concession speech as I write this.

The Greens needed 50K votes to gain permanent ballot access. Sometimes I think about the
future. I hope they get ballot access.

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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 10:31 PM
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1. Good luck to them and to Cuomo. :^)
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amerikat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 10:33 PM
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5. The mayor of my town is a Green.
He gets things done.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 10:35 PM
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7. Glad to hear that. :^)
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 10:32 PM
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2. Really? I hope they shrivel like testicles on steroids. n/t
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amerikat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 10:35 PM
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6. Don't count on that happening.
and why do you say that?
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 10:37 PM
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12. Because I a Democrat, and Greens, like the Republicans who fund them
are my enemies.
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amerikat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 10:41 PM
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14. funded by pukes? what?
the total campaign chest was about 39 cents
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 10:44 PM
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16. The Green senate candidate from PA in 2006 was funded almost entirely by Republicans. n/t
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 11:18 PM
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USArmyParatrooper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 10:32 PM
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3. I think you did the right thing.
As we all know the Green Party shaves off a lot of Conservative voters and it can really help keep Republican candidates out of office.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 10:33 PM
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4. It's good to see that for some Greens, it's not just about throwing one race to the Republicans.
No, it's about ensuring that future races can be thrown to the Republicans too.
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 10:40 PM
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13. What do you mean by that?
I don't think you have an understanding of NYS politics.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 10:42 PM
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15. You have fusion voting there, do you not?
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 10:50 PM
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18. Right
a candidate can run on more than one line. They have to petition the party to be on their ballot in the primary. The dems have been going after the Independence line (a conservative party). If the Greens are going to be on the ballot they need to get a certain number of votes in the last election. This will help the Dems move left and not right to win a line on the general election ballot. Confusing but the minor parties have no chance of winning on their own here so this gives the minors a say in election too.

All some people can think of is Nader when you say Green party. He didn't lose the election then and it's just an excuse for a candidate who lost by moving right of center.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 10:53 PM
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19. Yes, it's clear that some people in this thread don't understand the nuances
of your state politics.
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Jim Lane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 07:40 PM
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34. Fusion is irrelevant -- the Greens don't cross-endorse, they prefer ideological purity
I don't remember any race in which the Green Party has cross-endorsed a candidate to take advantage of the fusion voting rule. Their basic M.O. is to ask whether the Democrat is perfect. If the answer is No -- and so far, it always has been -- then they run their own candidate. They thus siphon off progressive votes that might otherwise have helped a mediocre Democrat, or even a good-but-not-perfect Democrat, defeat a batshit-crazy Republican (like Paladino) or a corporate-lackey Republican (like Lazio, whom Paladino beat in the primary).

The way to pull the Democrats to the left is to win primaries. We have closed primaries, so if you're registered Green, you can't vote in the Democratic primary, which is often the key contest.

Green = Getting Republicans Elected Every November
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 06:37 AM
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35. Then perhaps a ranked, approval, or cumulative voting system would be better.
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Jim Lane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 11:03 PM
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36. There are pros and cons to each -- but that's really a separate discussion
Edited on Thu Nov-04-10 11:04 PM by Jim Lane
No one should cast a vote by deciding what vote would be appropriate in a different electoral system. Work for a different system if you want, but in the meantime, recognize that we have plurality elections.

Under the current system, mainstream Democratic politicians have absolutely no incentive to pay attention to the concerns of Green Party voters. The Greens simply don't support Dems, even when a good Dem is running against an abhorrent Republican. Given that, why should a politician try to appeal to them? Having them detest the Dem somewhat less,as they cast their ballot for the Green Party candidate, does the Dem no good at all under our current system.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 10:48 PM
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17. Hey, Ocean Bandage, where have you been? n/t
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 10:57 PM
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20. Seems like taking responsibility for their own party's failures isn't just a Republican value
anymore.

Frankly, I don't see either of the corrupt major parties surviving the fallout from economic decline and peak oil.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 10:59 PM
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21. Everyone is responsible for their own vote, and I treat them as if they are. n/t
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 11:31 PM
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29. No, actually you don't
You've shown over the years that you have an obsession with the Greens and don't accept the failures from the right wing of your party.

That bash the base "strategy" sure was effective in this regard, wasn't it?
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 11:00 PM
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22. Everyone is responsible for their own vote, and I treat them as if they are. n/t
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 10:36 PM
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8. Restricting ballot access is anti-democratic. n/t
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amerikat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 10:37 PM
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11. agree(nt)
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 10:37 PM
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9. I voted for the Greeenie that ran against Schumer.
For the same reason, more or less.

National DEMS don't understand how RW the NYS party is.

It NEEDS the competiiton from the left.


I voted for Cuomo on the WFP.... which is a slightly left of center part that generally endorse DEMS here.
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 11:25 PM
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27. You were RIGHT to do that.
Schumer had it locked up anyway and he doesn't deserve progressive support.

The man should be primaried next time.

He'll cave in to the right on everything and bash the left on everything if he becomes Majority Leader.
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 10:37 PM
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10. We all did too
Cuomo was going to win this anyway and we too wanted the Green party on the ballot again. The dems have been going after the Independence party votes and that is not a good thing, let them try to get on the Green ballot instead. Four votes for Howie here.
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amerikat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 11:04 PM
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23. 3 family votes here that I know of
go greens.
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Lilith Velkor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 11:14 PM
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24. rent is 2 damn high n/t
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Frank Booth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 11:16 PM
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25. Why did you throw The Rent Is Too Damn High party under the bus?
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amerikat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 11:26 PM
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28. It was the gloves. I have thing about gloves.
Fuck damnit. gloves cover the hands. what's up with that? :sarcasm:
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New Dawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 11:43 PM
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30. He now has over 50,000 votes. You made the correct choice.
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amerikat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 11:49 PM
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31. Greens have ballot access in NY?
If so, this election was a victory for everyone..
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Mkap Donating Member (19 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 11:52 PM
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32. Orange Bat!!
Paladino reminds me of a made man like he belongs on the Sopranos and when he pulled out that orange bat i was convinced that he is placing a hit on the new gov
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Mkap Donating Member (19 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 11:52 PM
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33. Orange Bat!!
Paladino reminds me of a made man like he belongs on the Sopranos and when he pulled out that orange bat i was convinced that he is placing a hit on the new gov
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