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BrentWil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 08:16 PM
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Yesterday I canvassed Independence Ave in Kansas City, MO for the ACLU
Edited on Sun Oct-24-10 08:21 PM by BrentWil
I have never lived in an urban community before. However, I wanted to become involved in the community so I called my local ACLU and asked if they had any events going on. The purpose of this was simply to explain the rights that each person is granted under the constitution. It wasn't political, at least to me. It was more educational.

A few things. One thing is how far some areas of our cities have to go. Kansas City has seen great economic growth over the last 15 years. Yet, as with all cities, there are areas that are extremely crime ridden. On independence I tried my best to explain basic rights to prostitutes, people high, and various other people. It did impress upon me the need to serve those that are least among us.

Next thing I noticed was the sense of community. The area was extremely crime ridden, but managers of stores knew customers by name, and they greeted them warmly even hugging some. Even in the worst areas of this nation, people are people. It is a matter of figuring out how to turn around these areas.

Finally, I noticed the difference in reception I got. This was honestly based solely on race (I am white, for full disclosure). To be effective in getting out the information, we wanted to set up the information in stores for customers to pick up. This being the case, I went in to talk to a lot of managers. These people were the leaders of the community and they were clearly better educated then most of the residents. What I noticed was that I had a conversation with most of the non-white residents. However, the white store owners were very hostile. For example, one became very anger and spoke to me about the need to support police, highlighting a case in which a police officer were tackled a suspect and was being investigated. I tried to convey that I was there only to provide educational information, but it did not seem to work. (I then might have screwed with him some and highlighted his knowledge of the Constitution)

The amount of racial divid and their attitude to me was striking. In all fairness to the white owner, he is trying to run a business in a very economically troubled area and I don't blame him for having anger. (I properly shouldn't have screwed with him). However, these areas are in clear need of jobs and safety. The path towards that is clear and is already happening in places like Kansas City. However, our inter cities still have a long ways to go. If you live in or around a city, I think you(and I) should remain involved and continue to aid as the inter cities continue to return around this country.

One last note. I am really really good at convicting people to do things. Of the store owners that were not hostile, I was batting around 75% in convincing them to put up info in their stores.

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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 08:35 PM
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1. Good for you. I work in that neighborhood.
I've been there 25 years and have seen it greatly change. A dear friend lives between Independence and St. John, not far from NE High.

I love the neighborhood. The trees in the fall are the prettiest in the city, IMO.
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BrentWil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 08:46 PM
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2. Yeah, it is interesting knowing the history of the area
How North of Independence used to be Italian immigrants and controlled by the mob.. very deep and interesting history in KC, MO.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 08:48 PM
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3. A teacher I worked with in the 80s had been at that school for 30 years
She remembered when a lot of the kids were brought to school in limos. They lived in the mansions on Gladstone and Benton Blvds.
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BrentWil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 08:59 PM
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4. Yeah, my father law told me that during the various racial riots during the 60s..
They warned people to not go North of Independence... and no one did...
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cbdo2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 09:58 PM
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16. Interesting movie about the mob/crime scene in KC - Black Hand Straw Man
You can probably find it on dvd somewhere, but it's interesting to hear all the stories and much of it takes place in the NE area of the city there. It's funny watching a movie like this and recognizing half the names of the people as ones that belong to their kids/grandkids that I knew in school.
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BrentWil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 10:52 PM
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18. I will check that out. Thanks. NT
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 09:01 PM
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5. I gotta say the thought warms my heart, Brent,
you explaining basic rights to prostitutes & people high.
You made my day. I wouldn't know where to begin.
Do you have a background in law or ? Did the ACLU give
you any training beforehand? Anyway, keep up the good
work. :radio:
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BrentWil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 09:02 PM
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6. I am married to a lawyer
But no, I don't. Just an educated citizen... which everyone should be.
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 09:07 PM
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7. No training beforehand? Tips?
Suggestions on how to best explain basic rights to high people?
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BrentWil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 09:13 PM
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8. Yeah, they did
Very short. 30 min. Had a sheet about what to say, etc.
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 09:17 PM
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9. What's the sheet say?
If you don't mind giving a couple examples? Thanks.
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BrentWil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 09:21 PM
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10. Nothing much
Hello, my name is _______________. I am going around the community for the ACLU to give out general information about your constitutional rights. I can't really remember the rest. Just basic stuff.

There training kind of assumed you knew what you were talking about. Focused on things like the difference between this sort of work and going out for a political candidate. Namely that you are just giving info, not trying to get people to do something.
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 09:28 PM
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11. Huh. Well, what was it like explaining constitutional rights to high people?
That must have been interesting and really something.
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BrentWil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 09:30 PM
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12. Well...
Most of the time was spent convincing local store owners to put up the info. That covers way more people. With that being said, it wasn't too bad. Kind of like telling a drunk something and handing them something you up they hang on to until they sober up.
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 09:35 PM
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13. Oh. Huh. Thanks. What did you hand them?
"Kind of like telling a drunk something and handing them something you up they hang on to until they sober up."

I'm curious thinking about them coming down from their drugs
and finding your handout there in their house. Do you have
a handout with you, or do you remember what it said? This is
very interesting.
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BrentWil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 09:57 PM
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15. HEre you go..
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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 09:57 PM
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14. I used to live and work up there. Interesting area.
Projects and Italian families that didn't move away. I never had any problems there, but many assumed I'm Italian and there still was significant mob activity there.
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BrentWil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 10:12 PM
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17. It was interesting. NT
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