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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-10 08:00 PM
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Has a Senate majority leader ever lost re-election while his party wins the Senate?
There is a possibility of this happening with Harry Reid, and I cannot for the life of me find a single instance where a Senate majority leader lost his re-election bid while his own party gained/maintained control of the US Senate.
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-10 08:04 PM
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1. Not in the U.S., as far as know. However
Edited on Fri Oct-22-10 08:06 PM by Ken Burch
There has been the phenomenon, in countries with parliamentary systems(such as Canada)of a government being re-elected while the prime minister or(at the provincial level)the premier loses his or her seat. When that happens, the prime minister or premier asks another M.P.(member of parliament)or MLA(member of the legislative assembly)to resign so the prime minister or premier can try to win that seat in a by-election.

This happened to William Lyon Mackenzie King, the Canadian prime minister, in the 1945 election, and happened at least twice to Robert Bourassa, who was the Liberal premier of Quebec off and on in the 1970's and 1980's. In fact, I think Bourassa was the only party leader in a parliamentary system anywhere who lost his seat in EVERY election his party won.
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-10 08:18 PM
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2. In parliamentary systems, do voters care much about carpetbagging?
It seems to be a big issue in the US - not being from the state or district that you're trying to represent - but I'm wondering if people care about this sort of thing in parliamentary forms of government.
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-10 08:20 PM
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3. The residency requirements are much more fluid.
And with party leaders or potential cabinet ministers, there's a general expectation that those people will move around to wherever they can get elected.

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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-10 08:35 PM
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4. YES. There have been two speakers that lost re-election (But ONE when party won Senate)
They said on the TV today or yesterday that there have been two speakers that lost their re-elections.

Foley lost re-election, AND party lost sentate.
Pennington lost re-election, BUT party WON senate.

From Wikipedia.com:

Tom Foley
Foley, who served in Congress for thirty years, was the first sitting Speaker of the House to not win re-election since 1862.

William Pennington
During his first (and only) term, he was elected Speaker of the United States House of Representatives after two months where the House was unable to reach a majority for John Sherman, the Republican candidate (the Republicans had only a plurality and the Southern Oppositionists who held the balance of power were unwilling to support either a radical Republican or a Democrat). He was an unsuccessful candidate for reelection in 1860 to the 37th Congress.
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-10 09:02 PM
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5. I'm talking Senate majority leaders, not House Speakers.
Harry Reid is the current leader and may very well lose re-election.

However, polls also show it's likely the Democrats will maintain the Senate.

In both your examples, the party also lost the House while the Speaker lost his re-election.

-Foley lost in the 1994 Gingrich Revolution when the House went to the Republicans.

-Pennington lost in 1860 when the Republicans gained control of Congress.

I'm asking, have there been any cases where the Senate majority leader lost re-election while his own party won the US Senate?
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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-10 09:18 PM
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6. Actually....
Edited on Fri Oct-22-10 09:23 PM by Tx4obama
Yes, you were talking about the Senate and I posted about the House.
That was MY 1st mistake, see below for my 2nd mistake.

The other besides Foley wasn't Pennington it was Grow (republican), and when Grow lost his re-election the republicans held control of the House.

Galusha Aaron Grow (August 31, 1822 – March 31, 1907) was a prominent U.S. politician, lawyer, writer and businessman, and was Speaker of the House of Representatives from 1861 to 1863. He was defeated for reelection in 1862. He remained the last sitting House Speaker to be defeated until Tom Foley lost his seat in the Republican landslide of 1994.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Speakers_of_the_United_States_House_of_Representatives

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