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Atticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 10:53 PM
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I've been wrong before and I may be now but I want to go on record:
these midterms are going demonstrate just how biased the corporate media is because the outcome will not at all match their breathless 24/7 predictions of a "Republican Tsunami".

We will retain control of both houses and the majority of the mutants calling themselves "Teabaggers" will wake up November 3rd and find that they don't even have Acorn to blame: the American voters, as dissatisfied as they are, will simply have handed them their ass.

There will be much finger-pointing among the talking heads as they try to find sacrificial lambs to blame for their "errors" in predicting a wingnut landslide. A few more citizens, however, with still-functioning brains, will realize that the predictions were bought and paid for by billionaire businessmen who were trying to shape the group-think one more time.

This time, however, they will have overplayed their hand. Too many people will eventually realize just how damned undemocratic, un-American and downright dangerous having anonymous billionaires and unidentified foreign nations financing GOP attack ads.

The egg on the face will be the MSM's.

The responsibility to deliver will be ours.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 10:55 PM
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1. I hope you're correct!
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 10:57 PM
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2. ME TOO! and I do think the op is right. nt
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toddwv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 08:59 PM
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52. Make no mistake, the Right-Wing is "All In" for this election.
If they don't win at least 1 house, there will be hell to pay at soooo many levels that the Republican Party itself will be on the "endangered species" list.

The ONLY thing that is keeping them in this election is that their corporate buddies are holding back on hiring.
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AsahinaKimi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 10:57 PM
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3. I hope its more like a
belch. (I tried to be polite.) :D
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 11:05 PM
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4. I'm hoping that you're right.
I've kind of been feeling that way myself, especially here in Alaska where suddenly it's not scandalous to admit you're a Democrat. Joe Miller is falling apart, Lisa Murkowski will have a tough time winning a write-in, and Scott McAdams seems to be gaining momentum, despite being slightly behind the other two.

I just feel like people here won't vote for Joe Miller and too many will be uninformed about Lisa's write-in campaign to do it. Most people just vote the names they see on the ballot.

We got our state voting manual in the mail today, and Lisa isn't even mentioned in it because she didn't finalize her write-in campaign until yesterday. That's another strike against her.

I can't predict about the rest of the country, but it's exciting to see how much support the Democrats are receiving here this year, whether or not we pull it off. Ted's dead -- Alaska doesn't have to be a Republican state anymore. We certainly didn't start out as a Republican state. Our Democrats don't necessarily agree with the president on all things, but the majority of them are populist progressives whom I can support with a clear conscience.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 09:08 AM
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17. I sure hope that
crazy Joe Miller loses.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 11:09 PM
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5. I just want to see the Republicans tear themselves apart.
It will be a test to see if they can take the correct lesson from the drubbing. Every time they have lost, the "moderates" were blamed. It was "move right or move out."
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 11:15 PM
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6. I happen to think you're right, but my prediction is that by the time we
get to a week or few days before Nov. 2nd, many of the predictors will say the race is tightening and many races are now up in the air. They'll do this to play the cya trick. Why do you thnk they use that "margin of error" story? Those plling firms make TONS of money blowing smoke and I do think they have a bit of a betterfeeling about what the majority of people are thinking but when they give you a margin of error of +/- 4% that really means they could be wrong by 8% which these days isn't really that close at all!
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Roselma Donating Member (297 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 11:32 PM
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9. I think you've made an important point. Already
these polls are "tightening." I think Nate Silver from fivethirtyeight.com made an off-hand comment that it is possible that a polling firm like Rasmussen can poll races and release skewed polls indicating that the Republican is way out ahead of the Democrat in the hopes of creating a sense of inevitability/momentum for the Republican. Then, as the last month before the election occurs, the pollster can start showing a near dead heat or even an actual fairly-accurate accounting of public sentiment. After the election, the pollster still looks good no matter who wins.
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BzaDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 11:18 PM
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7. "Too many people will eventually realize"
Eventually realize? The election is in three weeks. Their insane positions and characters have been on display for all to see for over a year. Covered ad nausium. Over and over again, to the point where literally nothing they could possibly say would be surprising.

And yet so far, all of the objective evidence indicates Republicans are headed for a huge night. This is not just one polling company. This is basically all objective evidence.

Anything is possible. The Earth could fall out of orbit tomorrow and make this whole issue moot. But that doesn't mean it is probable.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 12:39 AM
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13. Wanna give me a hint on where this "objective evidence" is?
Sorry but I don't trust any of the pollsters or broadcasters. Each one of them have a $$ interest to keep this battle going. Obviously the radio & TV owners are making out like bandits airing all these very expensive ads and no matter wether it's fox or anyone else, all the hosts of their shows want to keep their ratings up. Wha keeps rating up? NOISE! I call it ALL noise because I don't believe any of them really know. History shows the party in poser will lose seats but to declare the Pubs have such a high lead because of the teabagger enthusiasum is crtainy no objective evidence. I doubt the teabagger group is more than 1% or 2% of the population, they've just gotten the ear of the media ^ they're flaunting t for all it's worth.
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BzaDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 07:55 PM
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44. You can bash the polls all you want. But they are historically very accurate, going back decades. nt
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 01:12 AM
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14. I'm with Napi, please show me "all of the objective evidence".
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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 11:29 PM
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8. I hope you're right. I reeeeeeeallly hope you're right. I'm pretty scared of what's coming. nt
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 12:00 AM
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10. I'm a little scared, too
I've been listening to talk radio over the Internet, both from my hometown area in Arkansas and from nearby Tulsa (KRMG), and some of those guys sound like they're so far out in right field, they need a helicopter to make it back to the dugout.

One of the KRMG radio personalities, for example, was ranting about how we "needed to get rid of the Democrats" (he was pretty adamant about that), and while voting in Republicans would "be an improvement" (was this guy even paying attention during the bu$h years?), it's time to start a "3rd party" (which, as far as I could tell, would be a cross between Libertarians and teabaggers).

On the Arkansas station, there were several callers who insisted that Obama was going to "force Socialism on us" (as if they had any idea of what "Socialism" actually is) and take away their guns. The station carries political ads which, as far as I can tell, are all from Republicans. (The station's owner, I believe, is himself a Republican politician).

So, yeah, I'm not feeling too optimistic right now.
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 12:34 AM
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11. I so hope you're right! nt
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 12:38 AM
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12. No egg.
It will be invisible to our corrupt fourth estate.

I support your prediction otherwise.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 01:45 AM
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15. From your mouth to God;s ear. I am praying you are correct.
Make it so! GOTV!
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johnnypneumatic Donating Member (461 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 04:01 AM
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16. I hope you are right...
I would never vote for a repuke... who I regard as anti-American scumbag traitors

I'm even voting for my Blue Dog demorepublican in Arizona, Harry Mitchell. He wants to extend the Bush tax cuts for the rich, but at least he voted for the compromised (sabotaged) DADT "repeal".

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The Uncola Donating Member (519 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 09:58 AM
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18. Perhaps, perhaps not.
I absolutely hope every Teabagger gets their ass stomped as they richly deserve. I'm not so confident that regardless of the outcome of this election that it will prompt the Dems to move in the direction that will help those of us circling the drain, they now seem almost as vested in Corporate Rule as the Regressives are.

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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 10:00 AM
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19. Corporate media vs new media ??
This election will tell us a lot about who is winning.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 10:02 AM
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20. This is the kind of fighting spirit we need right now.
This thing is not over yet.
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 10:02 AM
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21. the "media" says the repukes will win+ Diebold= #1 Screwjob on Us
the Chamber of Commerce's deluge of ads will make it seem within the scope of reality for the pukes to eek out a win with the help of corrupt voting systems.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 10:28 AM
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22. I agree with your prediction.
However, I FEAR that the "Centrists" will use this as a MANDATE of APPROVAL for their 1/2 Republican (Centrist) direction of the current Democratic Party Leadership.

Nothing could be further from the truth.
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stuntcat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 10:31 AM
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23. that's the hope I'm clingin to!
:headbang:
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 01:51 PM
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24. Hopefully both chambers will still be Dem and it will be DAMN CLEAR fillibuster has to go!
Edited on Fri Oct-15-10 01:52 PM by cascadiance
And the Republicans will have in effect have handed us the ability to do away with it on a silver platter by abusing it so much the last two years. Doing away with it will translate in to MORE support from the voters than the voters feeling that Democrats are making a power grab like they would have had had they started at the beginning of the last term removing it.

And with more of the blue dogs and conservadems voted out this time, hopefully there will be less time spent "herding cats", and we can get some things DONE the next two years before the 2012 election!
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 07:14 PM
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39. Filibuster doesn't need to go....
just take it back to its original rules- you have to hold the floor as long as you are filibustering. Do you really think the pukes have the stones to get on the Senate floor and read phone books for days at a time? I don't. The filibuster is one thing that protects against the tyrrany of the majority, and we will not hold the majority forever.
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 03:17 PM
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25. I hope you are right, but since we have electronic voting, I suspect the
whole point is simply to create the media narrative that will justify the vote hacking that steals the election for the Republicans--i.e., make people expect a Republican sweep, so when one happens because of vote hacking, no one will question the election outcome.
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HomerRamone Donating Member (460 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 10:41 PM
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64. bingo
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 03:42 PM
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26. We will retain the Senate, but not the House.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 07:06 PM
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37. I don't know which scares me more. The thought of Speaker Boehner literally
makes me so sad.
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jeff47 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 05:00 PM
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27. The R's will win some seats
Edited on Fri Oct-15-10 05:01 PM by jeff47
So the "landslide" meme can continue. It'll just be a much smaller landslide than predicted. And they'll be able to point to a few progressive losses as an indication that they are too far to the left. And ignore when the teabaggers pulled the race too far to the right.

As a result, the meme will be declared 'true' by the media, despite the fact that we'll retain both chambers.
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puebloknot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 05:02 PM
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28. K&R Fervently, let it be so! A prophet in our own time! nt
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 05:05 PM
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29. I agree. We will lose a few seats, but overall, Democrats will do
better than in most mid-term elections.

The cannabis measure here in California will draw lots of voters in spite of the Obama Justice Department's politically idiotic announcement that it will continue to prosecute marijuana possession.

I will never be using marijuana, but I don't like seeing lives ruined and money lost and judicial resources wasted on hounding marijuana users when alcohol users are running wild and causing all kinds of problems in our society. Alcohol is a far more dangerous drug than marijuana. And presumably if marijuana is legal, it's potency can be measured and maybe controlled. People buying marijuana will at least know what they are getting, I should hope. Right now, marijuana can be laced with anything, and that is what can make it dangerous.

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veganlush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 05:18 PM
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30. I hope to
congratulate you come Nov. 3 on your prognostication.
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Capitalocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 05:26 PM
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31. My theory:
They'll stick with the conservative anti-incumbent wave of grassroots blah blah blah narrative regardless of the outcome. Very few seats changing hands will be used as evidence that they were right, regardless of whether the House or Senate change hands.
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 05:43 PM
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32. Crush the GOP/Tebaggers to dust!
I want them to feel pain, great pain, and i want Boehner to CRY on national TV! McConnell can go back into his shell that old tortoise looking hack!

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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 05:46 PM
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33. it hasn't in the last two elections...and they won't own up to it either
remember Y2K? it completely disappeared just after 12:00 am january 1, 2000

the media, who hyped the shit out of it, made it immediately go away
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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 06:09 PM
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34. VOTE Nov 2nd or early vote! n/t
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pasto76 Donating Member (835 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 06:29 PM
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35. And if you're wrong, I predict this:
that come late january, "tea party" will be a thing of the past as mainstream republicans, backed by the corporate lobbies, effectively push the teabaggers out of the spotlight. If the Right make any gains in this election, the teabaggers will be discarded like any piece of used garbage.
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glowing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 06:56 PM
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36. Or they are planning of stealing the vote on "close" elections..
Remember the SC democratic candidate Green? How did he win again.. where did he get his money. Has anyone heard anything about him at all? Story quietly fled out the window into the night.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 07:12 PM
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38. I'm in complete agreement, Fox News altered the 2000 elections
Edited on Fri Oct-15-10 07:12 PM by Rex
by lying about Bush taking the lead and since then the entire M$M have been trying their hand at social engineering. November will prove it. What is disturbing to me, is how fascist the M$M is willing to let this country go, it should bother every American that the news outlets are for the owners and not the audience.
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grahamhgreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 07:30 PM
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40. I agree EXCEPT
The RW OWNS the voting machines....
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earcandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 07:31 PM
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41. I'm in.
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Stevepol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 07:42 PM
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42. Don't forget the voting machines, the ultimate guarantor of corporate control.
All that money running around, it will be child's play finding a geek with a conservative bent to tweak the machines just enough here and there. Even more likely, the vendors themselves will fraudulently program the machines to begin w/.

One of the disadvantages of living in a country that's not a democracy, or advantages depending on your point of view I guess.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 07:50 PM
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43. I'm voting Dem even though they have not impressed me
I'm hoping a lot of the disillusioned folk feel the same way - my fear of repuke control trumps my disillusionment
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Demoiselle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 07:56 PM
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45. You make sense, Atticus.
Let us all pray that the American voter can still make sense, too.
I'm shutting my ears to the corporate carnival, sending a bit more money to some of my favorite candidates (pitiful sums, but I try) and pulling the Democratic lever on election day.
The babble is truly revolting.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 07:58 PM
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46. The bias is
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 08:00 PM
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47. I agree the Dems will keep the Senate. But the House? That'll be tough.
I keep a really, really close eye on these things, and I can't make the numbers work there. I think the Dems will be lucky if the GOP doesn't have a sizable majority in the House when this is over.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 08:23 PM
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48. If they haven't bought the folks who control the voting machines. nt
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creon Donating Member (723 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 08:31 PM
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49. It will be ok
I do not think that there will be a "tsunami". It is, I think, mostly hype.
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Hyper_Eye Donating Member (429 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 08:39 PM
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50. I love the enthusiasm but the House is gone.
I believe FiveThirtyEight (http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/) has this just about pegged. We can't save the House but we will keep the Senate. We won't be able to get anything substantive through the Senate anyway though. The rest of President Obama's first term are going to be very tough. I would not be surprised if the numbers came out to almost exactly what Nate Silver is showing.

I am generally optimistic but I am also a realist and in this election the writing is on the wall. If I don't prepare myself for that fact the disappointment will be too great. But, I will definitely be ecstatic if proven wrong.
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be_long Donating Member (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 08:43 PM
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51. appears ignorance has become a qualification
heard it yesterday from a prominent journalist, this was
following
a discussion regarding the recent debates that had been
occurring
across the country, he said, it appears ignorance has become a
qualification for higher office, I had not heard it put that
way before,
but it got me thinking, months ago I read this piece where the
author
stated that, the problem with stupid people is that they don't
know
they're stupid, then that led me to that comedian, who says,
you can't
fix stupid.
 
personally, I believe all three were correct.
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Sinti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 09:03 PM
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53. remember they own the machines
you're going to have to overwhelm them to keep either body.
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southernyankeebelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 09:04 PM
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54. Forget about the media. They have let the american people down a long time ago. Its all
about the money and ratings. Corporations long ago gave their journalists to the republican party and Bush. All you have to see is Fox Lie Machine.
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southmost Donating Member (528 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 09:07 PM
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55. only problem if the teabaggers lose
they'll be resorting to more violence
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 09:12 PM
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56. Yup ....KnR.. 119...Standing w you
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bkozumplik Donating Member (391 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 09:32 PM
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57. and you base this rosy outcome on what exactly
lets hear it.
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Atticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 09:55 PM
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60. Could you succinctly tell me why you disagree with it? It would take quite a lengthy
and detailed post, wouldn't it?

I am just saying that all the doom and gloom has been spread by people who have a vested interest in discouraging progressive voters. The networks and the large newspapers and agencies are owned and controlled by corporate America and they are interested in electing those who have no trouble remembering which side their bread is buttered on.

"Self-fulfilling prophesy" is not just a figure of speech. If we allow ourselves to be convinced that we are going to lose, big time, that mindset influences the outcome in their favor. It takes away our "edge", dampens our passion and persuades us that our $20 contribution won't change things and that there's really no use to spend a few evenings making phone calls or ringing doorbells.

If Democrats show up and vote, we win. I believe it is that simple. The corporate whores are currently engaged in a well-funded and desperate effort to discourage us from getting off our asses, overcoming our petty and self-indulgent differences and VOTING FOR OUR OWN PEOPLE.

I'm hoping and betting that we're better than they believe us to be.
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bkozumplik Donating Member (391 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 10:28 PM
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63. I hear you
Edited on Fri Oct-15-10 10:36 PM by bkozumplik
I am just disappointed in our current leadership, and I think we need to at least scare them, if not fire them, even if it means losing some power. Or else we are stuck with them. forever.
The stakes in a midterm election are not as high as the one after. We can even lose both houses of congress and still not let the repubs pass anything, assuming obama uses his veto.

The repubs wont have enough to override a veto anyway.

And it would scare the crap out of our leaders, present and future-- so maybe, just maybe-- they might behave and do what we elected them to do.
Its not like we are accomplishing much right now, with control, so lack of control and accomplshing nothing through gridlock/vetos seems to be a small price to pay to put the fear of god into our leaders, now and into the future.

I know its against my own interests, but I'm hoping for a thrashing. I want our own side to feel Thoroughly spanked.

Sometimes I feel like the new motto of our party is, "thank you sir may I have another!"
Look at how far we have fallen, that we define our options only in terms of whether we are better than sticking criminal republicans. You should never define yourself by the yardstick of a bunch of douchebags. Its like: "Sure we are cannibals, but we arent as bad as THOSE cannibals, who eat toe meat." Thats us, right now. We are not the party we used to be.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 09:33 PM
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58. Atticus, I agree with you. The 'New Silent Majority' will be back at the polls again.
There will be egg on a lot of faces as you say. Great spirit!

And a big K&R. :)
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 09:33 PM
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59. ITA
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nannah Donating Member (690 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 09:58 PM
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61. this reminds me of the new msnbc ad...LEAN FORWARD
i really like the multi sensory input in those two words and it embodies the feeling that needs to continue, regardless of degrees of disappointment regarding specific issues.... what are the options???????? we must continue to push, lean, urge, and lean forward with as much persistence at those who push back against us.
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 10:20 PM
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62. Unless their in on the theft of the vote.
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4dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 10:42 PM
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65. The Liberal Resurgence is here.
We are the new silent majority and come November 2nd we are going to speak loud and clear.
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