The more I research lariam,the angrier I get-I need help from those in the know

[w8liftinglady]

Lariam distributed by La Roche pharmaceutical co,and dumped on ...how many Iraq and Afghanistan troops....has been proven to cause many of the anger and suicide issues we are seeing today...as early as the late 1990's.I need to know how much roche made,when their exclusive production expired.Any fact-based links would be extremely appreciated.

read this and weep-literally-from 2004
http://www.refusingtokill.net/disability/va_warns_doctors_about_lariam.htm

[w8liftinglady]

1. bear with me if I kick this-don't want it locked.

[Angry Dragon]

2. kick

[Lost4words]

3. K & R! nt

[Recursion]

4. It was developed by the Army

Why does a private company have sole distribution of a drug that was developed by the military?

This site might help: http://www.lariaminfo.org/

It seems back in the 70s the side-effects were thought to be "worth it" compared to malaria, but that isn't looking to be the case.

[w8liftinglady]

5. thanks a LOT-when you read the older articles...I am

determined to make a connection...

[mmonk]

6. Thanks for the information.

I think I'll ask my cousin if she has knowledge about this. She is a Medical Technologist with the VA.

[WinkyDink]

7. I knew someone who developed SEVERE mental problems after taking lariam to visit India. Lost his IBM

job, which company is for whom he WENT to India.
Nobody knew WTH was the matter with him, until I read an article on how and why the UK BANNED LARIAM.

It can cause PSYCHOSIS, and sometimes immediately.

"Ordered Into Madness
The Military Use of Lariam"
http://www.vva.org/archive/TheVeteran/2005_11/feature_Lariam.htm

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10535096

http://www.levaquinadversesideeffect.com/2008/11/26/peace-corps-volunteers-and-suicide-from-lariam-a-quinolone-antibiotic/

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/01/27/60II/main538144.shtml

http://www.sixwise.com/newsletters/06/05/17/drugs-with-potentially-psychotic-side-effects-which-ones-are-they--amp-who-deserves-to-know.htm

http://www.newser.com/story/20642/8-worrying-drug-side-effects.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/4183566/Suicide-warning-on-malaria-pills-after-Cambridge-students-death.html

[mmonk]

8. Scary

[w8liftinglady]

10. thank you so much--and the DoD is blaming this all on "risk-taking behaviors".

[w8liftinglady]

11. What REALLY pisses me off-larium was removed in 2009-see when ...

the articles were written?Why didn't we give a f+$K then?

[muriel_volestrangler]

17. I think the drug is still made as 'mefloquine', just not marketed as 'Lariam' any more

See http://www.lariaminfo.org/

[w8liftinglady]

20. since the costs(read lawsuits) outweighed the benefit(their profiits)

[w8liftinglady]

23. letter distributed to service members/families in 2004

http://www.pdhealth.mil/downloads/Mefloquine_SM_fs_4104.pdf

WHO SHOULD NOT TAKE MEFLOQUINE?
You should not take mefloquine if you have clinical
depression or had clinical depression recently, have had
recent mental illness.

snip

WHAT ABOUT BEHAVIORAL SIDE EFFECTS?
Rare instances of suicide in patients taking mefloquine
have been reported but no studies have proven that
mefloquine use results in suicide, suicidal ideas, suicide
attempts, or any other violent behavior. Even so, if you have
any thoughts of suicide, consult a health care professional.
Other potential behavioral side effects may include anxiety,
paranoia (suspicion of everyone), depression, agitation,
restlessness, mood changes, panic attacks, forgetfulness,
hallucinations (seeing or hearing things that are not there),
aggression, and psychotic behavior (delusions or decreased
“reality testing”). Unusual side effects that can impair reaction
time and thinking include nerve problems, confusion and
disorientation, convulsions, psychosis, nightmares, dizziness,
and loss of balance.
Serious side effects occur most often among those who
consume alcohol while taking mefloquine. Therefore, avoid
using alcoholic beverages while taking this medicine.
If you have any of these changes in behavior, go for a
medical evaluation immediately. Delay could put you or others
at risk.
Note that normal reactions to deployments and combat
stress may be similar to both the common and behavioral side
effects of mefloquine.



God forbid we interfere with Roche's profits.

[muriel_volestrangler]

18. It's not banned in the UK generally, just for people with known psychiatric problems

It's still in the NHS list of malaria drugs: http://www.cks.nhs.uk/malaria_prophylaxis/drugs_in_this_topic/scenario_prevention_in_long_term_travel/mefloquine_250mg_tablets

Not to be used in

* Allergy to quinine
* Breastfeeding
* People with a history of convulsions, eg epilepsy, if used for malaria prevention
* People with a history of psychiatric illness (including depression) if used for malaria prevention
* People with severely decreased liver function, if used for malaria prevention

http://www.netdoctor.co.uk/medicines/100001462.html

[w8liftinglady]

19. hence-repeat deployments should be a red flag-esp in view of VA concerns

which were voiced repeatedly from 1995 on....

[WinkyDink]

21. And flight crews. ;-)

[w8liftinglady]

9. kicking-those who know anything about roche profit-how to look it up...and

exclusive rights to lariam dispensing...or how I can find these facts...that's what I'm researching-just don't know where to look.

[w8liftinglady]

12. kicking to coincide with unhappycamper's thread

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x9306379

[w8liftinglady]

13. There you have it-Rumsfeld a CEO of Gilead

Dianne feinstein asked The DoD to research the effects of lariam on soldiers ..in 2003.Who was the secretary of defense?....um,Rumsfeld.

Rumsfeld rec'd millions when Gilead sold rights of Tamiflu to Roche.
he wasn't gonna piss on them.

[w8liftinglady]

15. and a little tidbit on Rumsfeld / Roche

http://money.cnn.com/2005/10/31/news/newsmakers/fortune_rumsfeld/

Defense Secretary, ex-chairman of flu treatment rights holder, sees portfolio value growing.
October 31, 2005: 10:55 AM EST
By Nelson D. Schwartz, Fortune senior writer




NEW YORK (Fortune) - The prospect of a bird flu outbreak may be panicking people around the globe, but it's proving to be very good news for Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and other politically connected investors in Gilead Sciences, the California biotech company that owns the rights to Tamiflu, the influenza remedy that's now the most-sought after drug in the world.

Rumsfeld served as Gilead (Research)'s chairman from 1997 until he joined the Bush administration in 2001, and he still holds a Gilead stake valued at between $5 million and $25 million, according to federal financial disclosures filed by Rumsfeld.

The forms don't reveal the exact number of

[w8liftinglady]

16. and Roche/tamiflu

http://www.time.com/time/business/article/0,8599,1120533,00.html


day after Roche reversed course under pressure and announced it is willing to enter discussions with countries and companies interested in licensing rights to produce its flu drug Tamiflu came the reminder of why the Swiss pharmaceutical giant had for so long been so reluctant to make the move. Roche announced Wednesday that its revenues climbed 17% in the third quarter, boosted in large part by world-wide demand for Tamiflu. Sales of the drug more than doubled, to $215 million in the quarter. Roche expects to rake in as much as $925 million from Tamiflu sales this year, up from $266 million in 2004. And as governments keep building their stockpiles, it will continue to generate billion-dollar revenues for the next couple of years, according to Keith Redpath, head of Wood Mackenzie Life Sciences Research.

Read more: http://www.time.com/time/business/article/0,8599,1120533,00.html#ixzz12G0dlzGe

[w8liftinglady]

14. kicking so you can see EXACTLY how our government has f%cked our citizens in the name of $

members of Peace Corp and other orgs also had these symptoms.

[w8liftinglady]

22. and the rec's from the CDC

Country Malaria
Afghanistan April–December
Drug resistance Chloroquine
Areas with Malaria all areas at altitudes <2,000m (<6,561ft

Species P. vivax 80%-90%
P. falciparum 10%-20
Recommended Chemoprophylaxis Atovaquone/proguanil, doxycycline, or mefloquine



Country Iraq (Lariam used through 2004)
Previously in areas at altitudes <1,500 m (<4,921 ft) in provinces of Dahuk, Erbil, Ninawa, Sulaymaniyah, and Ta’mim. No cases reported in 2009
Drug Resistance None
species P. vivax 100%
recommended chemoprophylaxis Mosquito avoidance

[Count Olaf]

24. Thanks for posting!

:kick:

[w8liftinglady]

25. I'm almost afraid to write this one.barton was a huge roche recipient as well.

[dixiegrrrrl]

26. This is painful to write, but may be something to be considered.

I am wondering if the military/DOD/ Pentagon ( most likely) carries insurance on miliatary members,
what is called "dead peasant" insurance. Makes sense that they would, since so many many corporations carry it
on everyone they have ever employed and even after you leave the job, it is still a valid policy till you die.
I wonder if the VA expenses are taken into account in the scenario of military members killing themselves?
I wonder if insurance companies benefit to a significant degree if the insured kills himself ( no payout on suicides)?

Basically, I wonder if the Powers that Be really give a damn about military members. My sense is they are considered totally disposable, and for sure they are exposed to so many poisons it is inevitable many have early deaths.

Just remembering how desperately the Pentagon and DOD tried to cover up Gulf War Syndrome investigations.

[w8liftinglady]

27. It IS painful...and my suspicion as well

Anything to remove blame from them(the government) and place it squarely on the troops(the recipient of lariam,agent orange,depleted uranium...you know-things the politicians and their buds got rich from)

[w8liftinglady]

28. I am still researching-anyone have an idea how I can find out how many

doses sold to the DoD?

[w8liftinglady]

29. and I'll kick once more for any more refs on roche contributions

[riderinthestorm]

30. I don't know anything but your OP is too important to drop. K and R.

Grr. Too late to rec. Sorry about that. I can't believe there aren't a ton of web DU researchers on this....

Has info been suppressed? I am way too tired at this time of the day to contemplate taking this on as a project but surely someone knows something???