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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 12:25 AM
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The OP I never wanted to write...
Edited on Wed Oct-06-10 12:36 AM by pinboy3niner
My little brother died suddenly last Wednesday.

At first, I told no one. It's not uncommon to have threads here about personal loss, but I balked at doing that. After a few days, I mentioned it in a couple of posts in threads started by friends here.

But mostly, I've been suppressing it. As a Vietnam vet, I learned to be very good at that after the war. I'd lost more than 60 friends in VN, and the guilt and grief were too overwhelming to be able to deal with for a lot of years. For me, the psychological effects of my war experience were profound.

I've processed my VN shit--more than once. And I'm probably not done processing it. But I'm still not very good at dealing with loss and grief. I'm trying now to tell a few friends. And I tell them, "Don't worry about me. I have a lot of friends, including many vets who know trauma intimately, who are my support group. And my best friend is the PTSD counselor at our new Vet Center."

Still, I'M a little worried about me...

My brother, Jim, served with me in VN. He was a personnel clerk at Division HQ in the rear while I was an Infantry platoon leader in the field. We didn't talk about VN for 16 years, until I had a sudden catharsis and opened up for the first time.

When I was wounded, they pulled Jim off bunker guard on the base perimeter to read him the Army's telegram. Then they jeeped him down the road to the evac hospital to see me, though I was unconscious. I was awake when he came to see me again the next day, though I couldn't talk because I'd been trached.

It took a long time before Jim was able to visit the Vietnam Veterans' Memorial in D.C. Even then he was self-effacing, saying, "I was only a personel clerk in the rear." Until a friend of mine bought him a VN vet cap, and we put the Screaming Eagle insignia on it--and you could see the transformation in Jim's face.

How can I memorialize my brother? The best I have is a routine e-mail he sent me, with a photo of him with his friends, doing something he loved--something he was doing when he died. Before the angioplasty, he couldn't ride his bike, but he got it ready so he could ride afterward.

This is one e-mail he sent me after his angioplasty, when he began riding again, with the accompanying photo:

Hi <pinboy3niner and older brother>

... I did the Solvang "Half Century" (50 miles). Next year we'll
do the Century ride (for a charity-- it's not a race). There were 4,600
cyclists this year, between the two.

Group photo (L-R): Me (58); Ken (42); John (62); and Sonny (59). John’s the
strongest rider, then Sonny (believe it or not), I’m right behind Sonny. Ken,
at age 42, is the weakest. but he started riding again after I did in Feb.—and
injured his knees on our 35-mile Buellton ride last month (too much too soon).
Note my new San Diego State Jersey.

I spent most of the ride chasing John. Sonny pulled a muscle early, so he and
Ken (2 flat tires along the way) finished about an hour behind us. The cold
front came through Lompoc earlier in the morning, so we had a strong headwind
all the way to Lompoc. Then we had a crosswind from the North from Lompoc back
to Solvang, with only 5-6 miles of the more normal tailwind from the West. I
hit 41.3 MPH down the hill nearest Buellton, and averaged 12.3 MPH pedaling time
overall (4:09, not counting stops). No threat to the pros, but not a bad
average for a "novice". The Firestone Pale Ale tasted real good ($4.00/cup).
I pedaled past several well-dressed guys as they walked their expensive bikes up
a tough hill (priceless!).

Side note: I learned that John is a retired AF protocol officer, and was Chief
of Protocol at Vandenberg in '82-83. I asked him if he remembered arranging a
helicopter base tour for a NASA big-wig. John and I met then, but he remembered
that they had to drop me off after the tour so I could drive the car down to
SLC-6 to pick up Ralph and the NASA Labor Advisor! Small world. John retired,
then served as the Catholic Chaplain at the prison for 15 years. (He "retired"
from that 5 years ago, but works at Home Depot 3 days a week.) I think John is
a little unclear on the concept of retirement.

Sonny and I will ride about 12-13 miles tonight to get the kinks out.

Jim



My brother, Jim, on the left, with his friends.


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TorchTheWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 12:28 AM
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1. I'm so terribly sorry for your loss
Sending heartfelt sympathy and hugs your way.


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SCRUBDASHRUB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 06:26 PM
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130. I'm sorry, too. :(
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 12:29 AM
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2. My deepest condolences.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 12:29 AM
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3. a lovely tribute
simply wonderful :cry:
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fizzgig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 12:32 AM
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4. i am so very sorry
rest easy, jim. my thoughts are with you and yours, pinboy :hug:
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 12:36 AM
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5. I'm Very Sorry For Your Loss
The bond of brothers is deep and lasting. Very poignant. My condolences.
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 12:37 AM
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6. My sympathies and condolences to you..
:hug:

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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 12:37 AM
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7. Sorry for your loss Pinboy,
And to your brother:

Sleep well, soldier.

:patriot:

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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 12:38 AM
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8. I am so deeply sorry for you, my friend
:hug:
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 12:39 AM
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9. Thank you for sharing Jim with us
He looks like he lived to the fullest, no better testament to the sacrifices others made. Rest easy friend. :hug:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 12:40 AM
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10. What a beautiful smile.
I'm sorry, my friend. :hug:
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 12:40 AM
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11. Dear sir, there is a movie about bike racing.
Edited on Wed Oct-06-10 12:41 AM by RandomThoughts
It is really good, and speaks of loss in a way that touched my heart, if you get a chance, it also speaks of love of brothers.

American Flyer.

also the movie Breaking Away is a great brothers biking movie.


Why aren't those movies on TV? Why aren't they available on the Internet?
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 12:41 AM
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12. Hugs and yes we worry about you
like brothers and sisters.

Deal with this as you need to deal with this... losing friends is always hard. I know I was damn lucky in that respect.

Your friends care for you.

And you know the drill, if you need to talk... there is the PM.

:hug:
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 12:41 AM
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13. Condolences
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 12:42 AM
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14. My dear pinboy3niner...
Oh sweetie...

What a beautiful memorial for your brother...

I know you're in a tough place now...

What can I say? There's not much. I'm so so sorry. I hope he went easily, without pain.

You know, I was a critical care nurse for some years, and I saw quite a few patients die.

I always thought that they were finally at peace, and that the families were the ones left suffering, dealing with that huge loss...

I hope that your time of grief will gradually pass, and that one day you will be able to smile at your good memories with him...

Safe passage to him...

Hugs for you...:hug: :hug: :hug:

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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 02:21 AM
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26. Thankyou, Peg
It is a comfort to know that Jim went very quickly.

He was returning from a ride from Lompoc to Gaviota when he stopped by a driveway, leaned his bike against a tree, and removed his helmet. He wasn't in obvious distress, as he didn't use the cell phone he had with him.

He had a bruise on his head from falling, and the coroner said his aorta had a massive failure--it was sudden, fast, and he didn't feel a thing.

We all can only hope that we go so easily as Jim...
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 01:01 PM
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101. Well, at least his passing was swift and painless. My condolences.
Edited on Wed Oct-06-10 01:02 PM by calimary
I realize full well that this really doesn't ease much of the pain for you, even knowing your brother made the jump to lightspeed without lingering in agony. Just know we're here to buoy you up. We'll keep you - and him - in our thoughts. Sounds like he was doing what he loved to the very end. As you said - we should all be blessed with that peaceful an exit.

:grouphug: :patriot: :hug: :patriot: :grouphug: :patriot: :hug: :patriot: :grouphug:
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 07:02 PM
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139. A friend of mine died of the same thing.
He was dancing in a bar in Skagway, with a beautiful woman in his arms, and just dropped dead on the spot.

At the risk of sounding inexcusably lame, it probably would have been something like the way both of them would've wanted to go
(mind you, when it comes my time, I want to be shot by a jealous husband at the age of 106.)
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 10:48 PM
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161. Not lame at all, Ken
I can think of a lot of worse ways to go than while dancing in a bar in Skagway with a beautiful woman in your arms. :)

May you get your wish--but not until you're AT LEAST 106!

Thanks.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 12:45 AM
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15. If posting here helps at all, do it all you can.
Hang in there. Wish we could do more. Wish we could have met your little brother, too. :hug:
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 12:47 AM
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16. I have an older brother and I can't imagine losing him.
There's that THING that all real bros have that no amount of sibling rivalry and childish perceived slights can ever overcome.

Add to that the fact that you two served together and the bond must have been beyond most.

You have my most heartfelt sympathy.

May the good memories, some day, outweigh the pain you feel now.
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 03:47 AM
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30. Ah, Miles...
...so perceptive, as usual.

Thankyou so much for your kind thoughts. :hug:
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proteus_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 12:47 AM
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17. My condolences.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 12:54 AM
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18. My heartfelt sympathies
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dave29 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 01:02 AM
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19. Condolences to you and your family.
:hug:
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Waiting For Everyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 01:04 AM
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20. So sorry, pinboy3niner.
Edited on Wed Oct-06-10 01:05 AM by Waiting For Everyman
A very moving remembrance of your brother. My (late) husband was a VN vet too (in country, combat, 100% disabled). He passed away 3 years ago this December at age 59. We were together 25 years, and we talked thousands of hours about VN. I feel so much for all the VN vets, you have no idea. I am one who does understand what you go through.

Hugs, :hug:
WFE
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 01:30 AM
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23. I'm sorry for your loss
My brother was 59, too.

I have nothing but admiration and love for the partners of VN vets who hang in there, through all the pain and trauma. You also are one of the heroes.

Hugs back, WFE. :hug:

:patriot:
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Waiting For Everyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 02:24 AM
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27. .
Aww, thank you. God bless you, pinboy3niner. That means a lot coming from you. S'pose you know, it goes without saying that you guys are my heroes too - and not just the combat vets, but those HQ like your brother too. I recognize the difference, but it was no walk in the park for them either, and not casualty-free.

My thoughts will be with you. Hang in there. (I miss my Dave a lot, and the world just isn't the same place without him, but every day is precious as he knew, so we can't abandon the days without them. They wouldn't want that, they'd want us to go on.)

:patriot: :hug:

Something for you, pinboy3niner, fwiw... (just the song, video is incidental)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYHR76CSfwQ


Answer in the Sky, Elton John

Well they say that it's a fact
If you watch the sky at night
And if you stare into the darkness
You might see celestial light
And if your heart is empty
And there's no hope inside
There's a chance you'll find an answer in the sky

Well they say that it's a shame
If you have nothing to believe
And if you can't hold on to something
You might as well die where you sleep
You don't need a prayer
And there's no price to ask why
Sometimes you'll find an answer in the sky

And it's all so much bigger than it seems
And it all overwhelms us now and then
And I'm banking on a chance that we believe
That good can still control the hearts of men

Sometimes you'll find an answer in the sky

And it's all so much bigger than it seems
And it all overwhelms us now and then
And I'm banking on a chance that we believe
That good can still control the hearts of men

This life's a long old road
We shouldn't have to walk alone
But if you find the right companion
You won't feel so worn out when you've grown
All life is precious
And every day's a prize
And sometimes you'll find an answer in the sky

All life is precious
And every day's a prize
And sometimes you'll find an answer in the sky
And sometimes you'll find an answer in the sky
And sometimes you'll find an answer in the sky

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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 05:19 AM
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33. Thanks for the song, Waiting For Everyman
Edited on Wed Oct-06-10 05:21 AM by pinboy3niner
My brother was lucky in escaping most of the trauma of that war. But he didn't escape all of it.

It wasn't until that day, many years later at the Wall, that he told me about having to process troops joking around and putting down "Mickey Mouse" as their life insurance beneficiary, and he had to convince them that it was serious.

And he told me about a massive, hangar-sized building on his base, that had no sign like other buildings had. So he wandered over to investigate--and when he looked in the window, he saw rows upon rows of tables--each bearing the personal effects of our Division's casualties. And when Jim told me about that, he had tears in his eyes...

Edit for typo.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 06:06 AM
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44. Hang in there brother
The loss of a sibling (especially a younger one) can be a tragic life changing event. As you are aware, a number of us here use this place to connect and process our thoughts and receive encouragement and reinforcement. You are one of the few I really look forward to seeing here.

Keep the faith, your family here feels your profound loss also. Your tribute to your brother is awesome.

-John
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 06:19 AM
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45. Thanks, brother--coming from you, that means a lot nt
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denbot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 01:07 AM
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21. I am sorry for your loss.
Peace to you.
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 01:21 AM
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22. You, who always shows your support for others here
You have given your heart tonight as well.

Hold on, love, remember, smile, and cry. :hug: and more


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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 03:03 AM
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28. Thanks, Whoa_Nelly. Thanks for your heart. nt
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 01:43 AM
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24. My heartfelt thanks to you all for your support
It was a no-brainer that I'd receive the most sincere well-wishes and support here, from all my good friends at DU.

You can't imagine how helpful that is to me. I should have included my fellow members here as a an important component of my support group!

One thing I neglected to mention is that when Jim left Vietnam, he turned down a chance for a final assignment in Europe because he wanted to be near me during the 18 months I spent as an in-patient at Letterman General Army Hospital in San Francisco. I told him he should go to Europe, but Jim was stubborn--he'd have none of that!

I wish I could post the photos I have of Jim and me at the hospital. At the time, having my brother there meant a lot--though serving at Oakland Army Base was no picnic for him.

Thanks again to all of you--you're the best!

Love & Peace,
pinboy3niner
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tomm2thumbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 08:08 AM
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57. heartfelt and beautifully written about your brother

you are a credit to his life, no doubt he had a wonderful brother in you

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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 01:47 AM
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25. .
:hug:
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JohnnyLib2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 03:37 AM
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29. My deepest sympathy to you and the family.

Wonderful tribute.....treasure the memories.
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lillypaddle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 04:33 AM
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31. How hard it must be
right now. So sorry for your incredible loss. Best to you and your family.
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sarge43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 04:54 AM
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32. Condolences.
I lost my dear brother several years ago; as you did, I lost a friend. Brothers are special.

May he rest in peace and may you have strength and comfort.

Hand salute for a fellow vet.

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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 05:27 AM
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37. Condolences to you, too, brother
And a salute to your brother, and to you...

:patriot:
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 06:32 AM
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48. I'm sorry for your loss, Sarge
Salute to you and your brother, too...

:patriot:
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sarge43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 06:50 AM
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49. Thank you, pinboy3niner.
I'm reminded of a novel I read years ago (can't remember the name now). The heroine had a father who was a bad tempered crank. He'd read the obits every day looking for people he knew from his youth and cackle, "Out lived that one!" This went on for many years until one day she found him crying over the newspaper. "What's wrong, Dad?" "There's no one left; I'm all alone."

That's the real downside of getting old. On the other we do have the memories. That will have to be enough.

:hug: Soldier.
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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 05:21 AM
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34. My condolences, pinboy3niner.
I never had any siblings, but I do understand personal loss.
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 05:25 AM
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35. Look at that smile. I am so sorry.
:grouphug:
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PAMod Donating Member (651 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 05:26 AM
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36. Heartfelt condolences to you...
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 05:36 AM
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38. I'm very sorry you lost your little brother pinboy3niner
I go for my fifth heart cath tomorrow. One of my old Army buds came and spent a week with me back in the spring. Hadn't seen the dude for about 40 years. We had one of the best weeks I can ever remember. Every day on the planet, no matter if it sucks, is a gift. Every new sunrise I'm grateful to witness it. I wish there was something I could do or say to ease your pain. I'm grateful to you and your little brother for your service.
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phasma ex machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 07:13 PM
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142. +1 Re: Every day on the planet, no matter if it sucks, is a gift.
Every new sunrise I'm grateful to witness it.

"I gratefully thank You, O living and eternal King, for You have returned my soul within me with compassion – abundant is your faithfulness!"


My condolences pinboy3niner.

:grouphug:
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 05:37 AM
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39. Dear pinboy3niner~
Your pain is palpable, my sincere condolences extend infinitely. I am so very sorry for your loss. Thank you for sharing, and I hope the heartfelt responses here have helped you. You are my brother now. :hug:
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 05:53 AM
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41. babylonsister, you've been my sis for a long time...
...because of the great OPs you do. Yes, I am your brother--and proud of it!

Thankyou for your kind words. :hug:
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 05:42 AM
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40. Thank you for sharing some beautiful remembrances...
of your brother, who surely must have been a very special man. :hug: to you. I feel your loss and hope that sharing the good memories may help you in this difficult time.
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barbtries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 06:00 AM
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42. i'm so sorry for your loss
:hug:
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 06:02 AM
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43. Oh my dear pinboy3niner
My heart goes out to your and your family in these difficult days. He sounds like he was quite somthing, a wonderful guy.
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Dystopian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 06:23 AM
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46. My heartfelt condolences~
Dearest pinboy3niner~

I'm so very sorry....my heart goes out to you.
Thank you for sharing your little brother with us....
A truly beautiful tribute from a loving brother....
May your precious memories help to heal your heart...

Peace & Love to you and your family~


Rest in Peace Jim

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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 06:24 AM
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47. so sorry for your loss! nt
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 07:29 AM
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50. Jim: what a beautiful smile


What a loss for you.

:hug:

RIP Jim :patriot:



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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 07:34 AM
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51. Thanks for sharing and my condolences for your loss.
This post is a great tribute.
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political_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 07:52 AM
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52. I send my deepest condolences and sympathy for this sad time in your life.
Nothing ranks as high in the realm of sorrow as losing someone very close to your heart. It is a pain that you can't even describe. In this time, I most certainly hope that you surround yourself with lots of love and care. Of course, you will be in my thoughts as you begin the healing process. Please do take care of yourself and your loved ones around you. I wish you the best of luck. I hope that your suffering will lessen as the days pass by.

:hug:
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 07:59 AM
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53. .
I'm so sorry.
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 07:59 AM
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54. Thank you for sharing your sorrow with us.
I hope you find great comfort in the memories you had together.


:hug:
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 08:03 AM
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55. From one big brother to another, you have my deepest condolences!
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 08:05 AM
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56. A wonderful tribute
I'm so sorry for your loss. RIP Jim.
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 08:11 AM
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58. I'm so sorry for your loss.
I am so grateful to you both for your dedication and service.

:grouphug:
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 08:29 AM
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59. OMG, I am so sorry!
:hug:
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 08:30 AM
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60. I am so sorry for your loss.
:hug:

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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 08:33 AM
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61. My deepest sympathies on your loss... n/t
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 08:40 AM
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62. Oh, pinboy, that's an OP I never want to read...
my brother also died suddenly in 2004. The shock and then the overpowering grief and then the "hour of lead" (as Dickinson puts it)...

I'm so sorry for your terrible loss. You have been through a lot in your life...I can never know your pain or sorrow...but I can tell you that there are people out there who can connect with you on losing a sibling...

My thoughts are with you and your brother. He looks like a terrific guy...

Take care. Be well, my friend...
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 08:58 AM
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63. I'm sorry for your loss, too, CTyankee
At our age, we probably have a better perspective on some things, don't we?

But when it comes to death and dying--and personal loss--we're just as clueless as everyone else.

As for people who might connect with me in this time of sorrow--unfortunately, I know far too many...
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 09:05 AM
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64. Thank you all so much
I'm blown away by the support I'm getting. I sent the DU thread link to a few in my vet network where I live. Immediately, our top activist sent this e-mail:

Received this from the LT this morning, this is a great tribute from him to his brother who passed away.

Give him your prayers and support.

If I receive the details for his services, I will send them on.

Keep brother <pinboy3niner> in your thoughts and prayers.


I was reluctant to post about this, but I'm glad I did. Before, I was alone. Now, the support and good wishes I'm getting let me know I'm not alone.

I had no idea your your support would mean so much to me . Or that it would help so much to find my tears...
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 09:09 AM
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65. I am very sorry--peace and comfort to you and your family.
:hug:
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 09:09 AM
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66.  ...
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MissDeeds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 09:17 AM
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67. I am so sorry for your loss, pinboy
Hope you take comfort from the fact that your brother died doing what he loved, and that he passed quickly without suffering. Try to focus on that during this time of grief, and don't hesitate to reach out to those who understand what you're going through.

You're in my thoughts and prayers, friend.

:hug:

MissDeeds
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 09:23 AM
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68. I'm very sorry for your loss.
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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 09:24 AM
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69. So sorry for your loss...
...and thank you for sharing your story with us.
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 09:26 AM
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70. pinboy3niner
I can't possible speak to your losses in Vietnam but a brother...

It's been nearly 5 months since I lost my brother. I doubt an hour goes by that I don't think about him. Always good memories but still hard to deal with. I've been told it gets easier with time. In a weird way it did help to post about it online. I hope you too find peace with his passing.







This picture comes from the thread in which you posted kind words about my brother's death - thank you
http://tinyurl.com/2f8k65p
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 09:44 AM
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75. I'm sorry for your loss, progressoid
Losing a brother is tough. And it seems that none of my experience with loss and grief from VN helps very much.

He was your brother. He was my brother. Hell of a thing, for us.

Love & Peace to you, my friend. :hug:
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 09:52 AM
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77.  Hell of a thing.
Love & Peace to you too.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 09:28 AM
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71. (( )) and peace to you, pin
.
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 09:30 AM
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72. Losing a sibling is horrible
I'm so sorry for your loss. I lost many years ago and it changed my life forever.
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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 09:36 AM
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73. Sorry to hear this sad news,pinboy3niner.
I couldn't imagine losing one of my brothers,so I am glad you have friends around you. Hang in there.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 09:40 AM
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74. I'm so sorry, pinboy3niner. God bless you and your brother.
Take care, my friend. :hug:
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 09:45 AM
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76. I'm so sorry for your loss
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 09:52 AM
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78. Sorry for your loss and my thoughts and prayers to you and yours
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TuxedoKat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 09:57 AM
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79. So sorry
about the loss of your brother. He seems like he was a great guy and he looks so happy in that photo with his friends. I hope that gives you some comfort. Thanks for sharing Jim with us. (((HUGS)))

Just remembered, if you are having trouble, this type of therapy was developed while working with Viet Nam Vets:

http://induced-adc.com/


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DirkGently Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 10:33 AM
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80. Grandfather served w/ the 101st in VN. He's been gone 2 years now. Peace to Jim and to you.
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 11:17 PM
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163. I should have posted the Screaming Eagle insignia of the 101st Airborne Div.
It was the patch that your grandfather, Jim and I all wore:



My deepest sympathies to you, DG, on the loss of your grandfather, our brother...one of our "Band of Brothers"...

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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 10:52 AM
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81. I am so very sorry for your loss. *hugs*
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yellerpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 11:35 AM
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82. My heart goes out to you.
So sorry for the loss of your brother and close friend. Take care.
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SargeUNN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 11:41 AM
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83. my heart goes out to you my friend
It is hard to lose someone close and I know your pain too well. You and your family are in my thoughts.
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Permanut Donating Member (477 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 11:41 AM
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84. Thanks for posting this...
wonderful tribute to your brother. You have given us a gentle reminder to treasure those relationships and memories while we can. From one one vet to another; I was in during VN, but never went there. Some of my HS buddies didn't make it back.
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Brickbat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 11:44 AM
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85. You and your family are in my thoughts. May your memories of him be a comfort to you.
:patriot:
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SalmonChantedEvening Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 11:53 AM
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86. My deepest sympathies pinboy3niner.
May your love for your brother, and the love of others see you through this.

:hug:
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mstinamotorcity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 11:55 AM
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87. It sad when you lose someone you love
I know emptiness and hallow feeling that em compasses you. Eventually the memories will be sweeter and filled with less pain and hurt. The memories will soon bring you smiles and laughter at one of those family gatherings and you will realize its okay. It may take time but I promise you will get there. Love doesn't die. It just moves to a different spot in your heart for a treasure to always keep.May my words bring you comfort and love. Will be thinking of you and your family Pinboy3niner:grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: Peace Mstinamotorcity.
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driver8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 11:59 AM
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88. I'm so sorry for your loss, Pinboy...
Safe passage to your brother, Jim.
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Democat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 12:00 PM
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89. Very sorry.
Sorry for your loss.
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independent_voter Donating Member (283 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 12:03 PM
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90. I am sorry for your loss
I've found this is the one issue in life that experience does not make easier
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jimmil Donating Member (235 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 12:15 PM
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91. Be stong...
I don't know why though. I can't imagine loosing my brother.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 12:19 PM
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92. All my best, your brother would be proud of your love for him.
:hug:
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 12:19 PM
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93. Very, very sorry to hear this
:grouphug:
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 12:26 PM
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94. My condolences to you and yours. Go in peace, Jim.
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 12:28 PM
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95. Your brother looks so happy there in the Solvang sunshine
Remember that joy. Take good care of yourself -- for him, for your other loved ones.
:hug:

Hekate
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pasto76 Donating Member (835 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 12:34 PM
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96. Rest in Peace Brother
we all know there is no such thing as "only". Following generation of soldier thanks you both for having been there before us.

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ceile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 12:36 PM
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97. So very sorry for your loss
:hug:
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The Midway Rebel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 12:40 PM
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98. So sorry for your loss.
Thank you for sharing your story and your brother with us.
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jesus_of_suburbia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 12:52 PM
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99. My condolences.... it sounds like your brother really enjoyed biking,
so this is a fitting tribute.

He looks very happy in the photo.
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handmade34 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 12:56 PM
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100. lovely sentiments and so very bittersweet
give yourself a hug :hug:
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Blue Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 01:05 PM
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102. May the wind be at his back
and the road rise up to meet him...
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NEOhiodemocrat Donating Member (624 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 01:06 PM
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103. So sorry for your loss
It brought tears to my eyes. When I looked at his picture he looked so happy. We should all strive to be doing something we love when we die. Great life lesson for the rest of us. My husband has had two angiolasties and served in the army from 65-67. He goes on bike trails, did 21 miles last Saturday. This must be so hard for you and your family, wish you peace, and remember the good memories.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 01:07 PM
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104. I am so very, very sorry for your loss. There just are no words.
Please avail your self of whatever help, love and support you can find...and that includes those of us on DU.
It really does help to talk with/write to others.

You are not alone...


:cry: :grouphug: :pals: :patriot:
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secondwind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 01:19 PM
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105. It is so obvious you two were close, how lucky you are! You have wonderful memories to


help you process your grief, memories that will never fade, because he will always be in your heart. I am truly, truly sorry for your loss, your brother was waay too young to pass away. Take care of yourself.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 01:30 PM
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106. Our hearts go out to you and your family at this time of sorrow
DU is compassionate place where you can hang your feelings such as these and we will listen.

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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 01:43 PM
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107. All the best to you
Sounds to me that your brother made you a rich man in ways far beyond money
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 01:49 PM
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108. Rest in peace in the Great Beyond, Brother Jim (n/t).
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nyc 4 Biden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 01:58 PM
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109. very sorry
:hug:
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Daphne08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 02:09 PM
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110. I am so sorry for your loss.
:grouphug:

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No Passaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 02:17 PM
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111. so sorry for your loss.. I feel you
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 02:21 PM
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112. Dear Pinboy, I am so, so sorry
This is a beautiful tribute to your brother. :cry:

I noticed you said you are worried about you. Please take care of yourself. The pain, while it will it never go away completely, does ease gradually with time and a lot of support from friends and family. I know you know that from what you say about your experiences. But sometimes it's hard to believe that it will.

A few words from a beautiful song written by a friend of mine when I suffered a devastating loss a few years ago, which helped me immensely, I don't know why, except they gave me permission to mourn in my own way, in my own time ...

Make your peace in your own way ~ learn to live around it every day

:hug:

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clarence swinney Donating Member (673 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 02:42 PM
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113. Thanks
Look and act like my Lifeaholics
who work for a Life not just a Living ($$$)
Lost my daughter but so many wonderful memories to sustain me till we meet again
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 02:47 PM
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114. having to say "goodbye for now" is the saddest thing in the world
my mom passed over near the end of october last year

my emotional journey this past year has been the most difficult experience of my life

"We are not human beings having a spiritual experience, but spiritual beings having a human experience."

--Teilhard de Chardin 1881 - 1955

i'm sorry for your loss. but i feel a part of him will still be with you in the weeks and months to come, standing by you still, even now, especially now, and holding you tight with his love. love doesn't die. it goes on and on.

take good care.
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 02:48 PM
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115. K&R
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 02:48 PM
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116. I see a very happy man, loved by many,
especially his brother.

All that love and the sweetest memories will overtake your sadness. Godspeed.
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swilton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 03:10 PM
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117. My deepest condolences!
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wellstone dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 03:26 PM
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118. I feel like I know him
This sounds like the emails my biking friends and I send out. My sympathies, since I know him, I know your loss.
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PADemD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 03:34 PM
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119. My deepest sympathy to you and your family.
May your brother rest in peace.
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 03:51 PM
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120. what a beautiful memorial to your brother
I'm so sorry for your loss. You two shared a lot of history and love.
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Demoiselle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 04:15 PM
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121. I'm terribly sorry for your loss...
but very happy that you had such a wonderful brother.
Bless him and bless you.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 04:30 PM
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122. thanks for the post
peace and low stress..
prayers and thoughts..
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 04:42 PM
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123. I'm sorry.
My own brother just had a heart attack last week. They say he'll be okay.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 04:49 PM
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124. So sorry for your loss
My thoughts are with you and your family. Take care.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 05:19 PM
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125. So sorry, pinboy3niner, for your great loss.

:hug:
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 05:19 PM
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126. My deepest sympathy for your loss.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 05:20 PM
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127. You are lucky to have such a great brother.
Many of us don't have a brother. He seems like an outstanding guy.

Peace.

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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 05:20 PM
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128. I'm sorry to hear of the loss of your brother
:hug:
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Kajsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 05:24 PM
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129. I am so sorry for your loss, pinboy3niner.
My condolences to you and your family
at this difficult time.

:hug: :grouphug:
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 06:30 PM
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131. I luv ya man.
Thanks for sharing.

We all care, but sometimes we don't know how to share.
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blaze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 06:43 PM
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132. Brothers
Such a special bond.

Thank you so much for sharing your memories and your grief with us.

You'll never know how many others... also grieving... will be helped by this post.

"We are all brothers" often gets lost in the general day to day stuff.

This is the important stuff.

I lost my brother over thirty years ago.

You made me think of him.

I cried.

And I smiled.

Such are memories.

:hug:
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webDude Donating Member (830 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 06:49 PM
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133. I am sorry for your loss, you are in my prayers.
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Terra Alta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 06:50 PM
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134. I'm sorry for your loss.
:hug:
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haele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 06:55 PM
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135. so sorry to hear about this
:hug: from Haele and Laz
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MindandSoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 06:56 PM
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136. I am so sorry for your loss! I do hope that, with time, the pain you feel
will subside below the joy of the memories and the closeness you shared.
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NoSheep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 07:00 PM
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137. I'm glad you decided to share this. As someone who knows
how difficult it is to struggle with ptsd and challenging life experiences I hope something I have done that helps will help at least a tiny bit: Start by have compassion for yourself....put your arms around yourself and say you will take care of you. Try to tell yourself a positive message from your spirit to you as often as you can. Confide in those you trust that you are having a hard time. Seek experiences that will inspire wonder and awe in your spirit. Take yourself to a new place...someplace where you might view your surroundings for the first time. Experience as much newness as you can. A museum, a music performance, a lecture at a university, an art show, a wrestling match, a film festival, as long as it is new to you. I believe we can develop a sense of security again within ourselves by observing ourselves in unfamiliar (though not scary) territory. It has worked for me. Be a witness to something brand new and allow yourself to interact when you are comfortable. It can be a beautiful healing thing to observe ourselves knowing what to do in a situation we never saw ourselves in before. Performances are safe things. Try to start there. Then...when you are stronger, perhaps you can take it further. I'm so sorry for your loss and your pain. There are ways through this.
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 07:00 PM
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138. I know it doesn't help much, but I'm sorry for your loss as well.
n/t.
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a la izquierda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 07:06 PM
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140. My deepest condolences, pinboy...
take the bike out and go for a spin. I'm sure you know how good that does the body and soul. I will think about you the next time I'm out on that epic ride.
Peace to you and your family.
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Catshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 07:13 PM
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141. I'm so sorry pinboy.
Thank you for sharing your remembrance and the photo.

:grouphug:
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 07:14 PM
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143. Your brother was a very good man
And so very lucky to have you for a brother.

My deepest condolences for your loss.
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DesertFlower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 07:23 PM
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144. so sorry. nt
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 07:32 PM
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145. Very sorry to hear,
especially at such a young age; he seems to have been trying to fix his health issues.

I have seen cyclists all over that area, but have never known any, although I have spoken to a few now and then.

At least he was able to cycle in some amazing areas. I saw two notices in local area newspapers, but with no identification. Both mentioned him resting against a tree, somewhere along Highway 1, a great place from which to say farewell.

May your memories sustain you in this time of loss.


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foxfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 07:32 PM
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146. I'm so sorry for your loss.
I wish peace and healing for all who love him.
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Highway61 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 07:40 PM
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147. So sorry for your loss my friend
I lost my daughter at age 20 seven years ago so I know first hand what you are going through. You are very much in my prayers.
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sellitman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 08:04 PM
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148. May your memories of him comfort you forever.
RIP
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nankerphelge Donating Member (995 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 08:07 PM
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149. I'm very sorry for your loss
Thank you for sharing a beautiful tribute.
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juajen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 08:23 PM
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150. Those bound together by love, are never truly parted. Hugs.
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 08:27 PM
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151. Sorry for your loss.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 08:30 PM
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152. I am sorry pinboy3niner.
:hug:
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 08:40 PM
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153. *Hugs* nt
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 09:34 PM
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154. I'm so very sorry!
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EmeraldCityGrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 09:41 PM
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155. I'm so very sorry that you lost someone so special.
I know you feel anything but lucky, but to have a sibling that loved you and that you
loved so much is a priceless gift. I've lost a son and a brother and I've found small
ways to memorialize them as the years have gone by. I know there is an organization
that does a lot of good work making cycling a safer sport. They are involved in getting
bike paths developed and then there is the "Ghost Bike" memorial. You can learn more
about it here...http://holeinthedonut.com/2010/01/05/ghost-bikes-memorials/

Take good care of yourself :)
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MrMickeysMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 09:49 PM
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156. Thank you for that e-mail, pinboy...
... and for memorializing your brothers' life with us.

With sympathy for you and your family- MMM
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Vadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 09:56 PM
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157. I am so sorry for the loss of your brother, Jim, Pinboy.......
My brother was in the siege of Khe Sanh in Viet Nam; we didn't know if he was alive or dead for several months, at least, so I know where you are coming from. I am crying now, thinking of your brother, Jim, and you,and all of our beautiful boys lost in that war and reliving the whole VN scene and the worry we all had for our loved ones in that war. Thank G_d my brother came home with a few purple hearts; he would never tell me anything about it except about the huge rats and snakes in their tents, daily!

My deepest condolences to you and your family for Jim and may you and your family find peace and solace.









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OnyxCollie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 10:11 PM
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158. Sorry for your loss.
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kgnu_fan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 10:20 PM
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159. Thank you for sharing this story with us....
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BobTheSubgenius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 10:31 PM
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160. I think your brother would have found this post a perfect way to remember him.
I'm very sorry for what caused you to compose it, though.

I hope each day is better and better for you.
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nolabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 10:53 PM
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162. Your brother sounds like a fine man. Thanks for letting us get to know him a little.
As someone who's survived some traumatic losses I have always had the funny, but sustaining, conviction that some of us are meant to see a lot of others out of this world and tell their stories. I'm not a believer in God the deity, but I do think this is sacred work. You might not feel the same but you do, right now, have the job, and are doing it proud.
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BanzaiBonnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 12:21 AM
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164. Sometimes, there are no words...
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Mr_Jefferson_24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 12:27 AM
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165. A very nice tribute to your brother -- deepest sympathies.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 12:32 AM
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166. My condolences.
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Haole Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 12:39 AM
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167. Sending my condolences
Thinking of you~

:grouphug:
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-10 09:33 PM
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168. Thank you for writing this...
sometimes, we feel as if we move too quickly through this life, and the loss of a loved one is always so near and d ear to our hearts.

Many years a go on a long trip across NE, (what isn't a long trip in NE?); I had the pleasure of listening to Neil deGrasse Tyson give a wonderful interview on NPR. It was quoted, "Why Physicists should give eulogies in stead of clergy".

In an a attempt to make the points, I will try not to destroy Dr. Tyson's original, please, bear with me. (Unfortunately I have yet to find copy).

I wish that could
download it for you, but apparently, it has moved into the
ages. If I may, I'd like to paraphrase, and while
certainty
cannot come to Tyson's original, I shall try.

We move through this universe as a group of atoms,
combined
quite often by chance, but more often my design. We are
all
interconnected in one way or the other, and even the
furthest
star stuff is as much a part of us as the hair on our
nose.
Everything reacts with everything else, we are never gone,
we
have merely changed form, we have returned to our
universal
beginnings, to start again.

We think of ourselves as shells, mere vessels that carry
us
about as we go about out daily duties...or, we can see
ourselves as what we area part of a of universe that we
will
on day understand. Perhaps, that small part of us that is
capable of understanding such things can finally become
one with the answer. Only an open mind can keep us free.

Once again, I apologize for the synopsis.

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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-10 12:06 PM
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169. Thankyou, Ras
That sounds like a good synopsis. The interview may be posted at his website, at NPR or among the references at his wiki page. I took only a quick look, but I'll search a bit more when I have time.

I'm glad I posted here about the difficulty I was having, because doing that--and receiving such an overwhelming supportive response from DUers--enabled me to stop burying my feelings and to deal with my grief in advance of Jim's memorial service and wake Friday.

If I'd kept everything bottled up until Friday, I'm sure I would have bolted from the service at the beginning--and I would have missed what was a wonderful celebration of my brother's life. The huge crowd migrated to Jim's house afterward for what turned into an Irish wake (without all the alcohol consumption) that went on for hours and was filled with far more laughter than tears.

The day could not have been more perfect, and I know that I'll be okay now.
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-10 04:25 PM
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170. His original was brilliant...
I wrote him a while back asking for a copy, still have yet to hear from him. NPR could not find the original. I'll keep searching, it was one of the most eloquent pieces I had ever heard...:hug:

The only other thing I an offer is to remember the good times, the times of wonderment and the times you had together that makes life worthwhile....:pals:
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-10 07:09 PM
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171. The good times and the funny stories were in the forefront...
...both at the service and the wake. The informal eulogies were full of funny stories about Jim, many of them about his klutziness and penchant for injuring himself. It seemed like Jim couldn't go anywhere without hitting his head on something, and he couldn't work on a home project or or work on one of his cars without bloodying his knuckles or some other part of his body.

And, someone observed, the apple didn't fall far from the tree. Everyone turned to look at my nephew, Jamie (now 23, who has a long history of skateboarding injuries and other accidents), who stood there smiling--his missing front teeth the result of a recent cycling mishap. :)

Jim's wife chose the perfect photo to display, in poster size, on the altar. Rather than a formal portrait photo, it was the one that I think Jim would have chosen:


Jim with Coho Salmon, Valdez, AK, 31 August 2010

Neither Mick, my older brother, nor I had planned to speak, but we both wound up sharing our stories about Jim. I began by confessing that I almost burst out laughing when the Monsignor began the service in his thick Irish brogue (our Grandma Bea had come to this country from County Cork in 1900 and kept the brogue 'til the day she died at the age of 97, and it also was the accent of our favorite parish priest at Our Lady of Peace during our childhood). In front of the more than 150 guests in attendance, I asked Jim's wife how long it took her to find the special section on craigslist for renting Irish clerics. :)

Something you'll appreciate, brother Ras: a veterans' group sent a color guard, and an Army NG or Reserve unit sent an Honor Guard. And the senior enlisted member was wearing the Combat Infantryman's Badge, two overseas stripes, and--on his combat shoulder--the Screaming Eagle patch Jim and I had worn in VN. It caught me by surprise when they fired the rifle volleys and played 'Taps,' followed by the formal unfolding and refolding of the flag and presentation to Jim's widow. I hadn't expect that, but it was a fitting tribute to Jim's service. (That's another letter I have to write--to those soldiers' commander, to commend them on their flawless professional performance. It was something that would have done the Old Guard at Arlington proud.)

As I mentioned to you elsewhere, I may have to post a follow-up OP to thank everyone here for getting me through this and enabling me to have such a special day Friday in joyful celebration of Jim's life.

Thanks again, Ras. :pals: :patriot:


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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-10 09:33 PM
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174. Here was mine, got to wear it twice, L shoulder and the R shoulder in Germany
Edited on Sun Oct-10-10 09:46 PM by rasputin1952


We served with honor, we served our nation when others would not. I bear the scars as does every veteran. I keep a box of medals for my son, may he never know the horror, may he bring Peace to a troubled world.

And now, it is time for rest, memories of life and love...we are all a part of this universe, may we one day communicate and remember the best of times. :patriot:
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-10 10:48 PM
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175. Yes, the Fourth Infantry Division--another good outfit
I trained at Lewis in '67 (Basic, AIT, Leadership Prep Course) and assisted in training troops there while waiting for OCS orders. So I was familiar with the Fourth early on. I also came to know a lot of 4th I.D. vets over the years--my best friend, whom I met at the Moving Wall nearly 10 years ago, was a Scout Dog Handler with the 4th. But he spent his time opcon to other units, mostly walking point with an Infantry company of the 101st.

His working career was supervising pipe-laying crews, until he went back to school, got credentialed, and began practicing marriage and family therapy with an emphasis on veterans. This year, the VA opened a Vet Center here and hired my friend as the PTSD counselor.

On the drive home from Lompoc, Mick and I talked about having shadowboxes of Jim's military and VN service made for his kids--our niece and nephew (who still seem like kids to us, though they're in their twenties). I'd placed a Screaming Eagle patch on the altar at the service, and at the wake Jamie showed me that he had retrieved it, and he asked me if he could keep it (what a great kid!). Seeing how much that meant to him gave me the idea for the shadowboxes.

I was struck by your comment about remembering and communicating, Ras. One thing that has always resonated with me is this portion of the epilogue from the movie, 'Platoon':

But be that as it may, those of us who DID make it
Have an obligation to build again.
To teach to others what we know,
And to try, with what's left of OUR lives,
To find a GOODNESS, and MEANING, to this life.




:patriot:


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littlewolf Donating Member (920 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-10 07:25 PM
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172. I am very very sorry for your loss .....
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-10 08:47 PM
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173. Thanks, littlewolf
DUers made a very real difference for me. Posting about this here and accepting expressions of condolence and support was a positive turning point that helped me more than I can say.
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CraftyGal Donating Member (602 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-10 10:54 PM
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176. So sorry for your loss....
:hug:
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-10 11:19 PM
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178. Thanks, CraftyGal
Hugs back. :hug:
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CraftyGal Donating Member (602 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-10 11:21 AM
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182. It's tough to lose someone so close...
glad you came here and told us. :hug: :hug:
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Jefferson23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-10 11:03 PM
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177. RIP and my condolences . I think you just did memorialize him, and beautifully too.
* Terrific passage:

I pedaled past several well-dressed guys as they walked their expensive bikes up
a tough hill (priceless!).

Sounds like he was a great guy.
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-10 11:54 PM
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179. Thanks for your kind words, Jefferson23
And thanks also for highlighting one of my two favorite lines from Jim's e-mail message.

The other:

I think John is a little unclear on the concept of retirement. :rofl:

btw, I met John at the wake, and he got a real kick out of hearing what Jim had written about him (I'd used it in my impromptu eulogy). :)
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Jefferson23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-10 06:44 PM
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183. Excellent pinboy3niner. Peace to you and yours. n/t
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-10 12:05 AM
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180. I'm very sorry for your loss. Thank you for sharing your grief.
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-10 08:46 AM
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181. Thanks, Vidar
It was difficult to do, but I'm glad I finally opened up--it was incredibly helpful to me.
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