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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-10 07:52 AM
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Northrop Grumman’s Shipyards At Avondale, La. Crank Out More Crap
unhappycamper note: Since the ‘Pentagon’ (Righthaven LLC?) has ‘requested’ that I only post one paragraph from articles on Army Times, and Airforce Times, I’ve decided to give ya’ll an unhappycamper summary of the article and a link to the OP. To keep in that same (new) tradition, I will also do the same for articles on Navy Times, Marine Corps Times, stripes.com and military.com.To keep in that same (new) tradition, I will also do the same for for articles on Navy Times, Marine Corps Times, stripes.com and military.com.

To read the article in the military's own words, you will need to click the link.

Read all about Fair Use here. It sure is beginning to smell like fascism.

unhappycamper summary of this article: If you take the time to read the article, the first five ships in this class have experienced 'problems'. Why do we still let Northrop Grumman build anything for the military?






The San Antonio spent nine months at this shipyard in Norfolk undergoing engine repairs.


http://www.navytimes.com/news/2010/09/navy-more-engine-woes-for-lpd-17-093010w/>
By Christopher P. Cavas - Staff writer
Posted : Friday Oct 1, 2010 5:21:48 EDT

Harvey, who is charged with getting the Navy’s ships ready for sea, last fall ordered a Judge Advocate General (JAGMAN) investigation into the situation aboard the San Antonio, prompted by continuing problems with the engines. The report, completed in January, concluded a host of issues contributed to problems on the ship, including inadequate workmanship, poor quality control during construction, shortcomings in the ship’s design, and problems with the crew’s management of engineering troubles. Even before the JAGMAN, problems had come to light involving bad electrical wiring installation, poor welds, and microscopic crud getting into the lubrication oil system of the ship’s diesel engines.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-10 08:06 AM
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1. And rust is already running down the sides
and she isn't even commissioned yet.
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Angleae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-10 04:23 PM
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5. She's been in commission for over 4 years.
The picture is of USS San Antionio, not some ship under construction.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-10 08:45 AM
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2. we let them build stuff because it's not about what's good for us...
it's about what's good for them.

War is indeed a racket.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-10 09:31 AM
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3. "...problems had come to light involving bad electrical wiring installation, poor welds, and
microscopic crud getting into the lubrication oil system of the ship’s diesel engines"

Ah, come on. Give em a break. You're always going to have a few problems when dealing with 80 year old technology.

My mistake. Welding, electrical wiring, diesel engines - that would be 120 year old technology.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-10 09:38 AM
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4. Well, they look to be closing Avondale
and Northrop Grumman is only one of two shipbuilders, so I'm not sure whether it's situation where one can expect a great deal of improvement from another manufacturer.
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pnorman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-10 02:40 AM
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6. Tell me if you know. UhC.
To what degree are USN vessels that once were steam propulsion, now diesel?
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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-10 05:15 AM
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7. Can any swabbies out there answer?
I'm under the impression that most of the big, fast boats currently being built are either nuke or gas turbine.
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