Allred just fucking NAILED Whitman...NAILED her. Caught her in a lie, IN WRITING.

[Amerigo Vespucci]

She's holding up the Social Security letter Whitman claimed she or her husband never returned, with the husband's comments written at the bottom. They filled it in partially but never returned it "because they wanted to continue to employ an undocumented worker."

LIVE STREAM: http://www.tmz.com/2010/09/30/livestream-meg-whitman-gloria-allred-housekeeper-allegations/

[meow mix]

1. liar whitman

liar liar

[KamaAina]

84. You know the rest

[Amerigo Vespucci]

2. Allred holding up letter from Whitman denying receipt of letter n/t

[marmar]

3. Cue the orchestra for Meg.....

:nopity: :nopity: :nopity: :nopity: :nopity: :nopity: :nopity: :nopity: :nopity:

[Manifestor_of_Light]

82. I'll donate my four violins for the cause.

If I can find three other fiddlers to play them along with me.

Oh, wait!!! They're not TINY violins. They are full sized, all of 14 inches long.

:banghead:

[HillWilliam]

92. I've got two violins, a viola, and a chin-cello

we'll strike up a whole friggin' pity chamber ... wait ...

nah. I'd rather play for something worthwhile. She ain't worth the rosin dust.

[Jazzgirl]

94. I have even tinier violins.

Edited to add more violins. :evilgrin:

[LongTomH]

113. How about a nano-violin/

NanoViolin has strings a millionth of an inch thick....but you can hear it play

[Parker CA]

4. BOOM!! Hard to refute that one.

[dhill926]

this could turn a solid win by Brown.......

into a fucking rout!

[stevenleser]

154. AND help out Boxer. n/t

[wtmusic]

5. Ho, ho. Hee hehe. Ha.

[Liberal_in_LA]

6. wow!

[louis-t]

7. Hell, she claimed she never GOT it!

I can't believe Allred spilled the beans so early.

[wtmusic]

The month of October is going to suck for Meg. nt

[Bitwit1234]

49. I think she wanted her to be snowed under.

But there are still a lot of republicans who are going to vote for her. They are going to say that the Democrats are playing dirty etc etc. You see they can't stand the truth coming out. The try to twist it to make everything the Democrats fault.

Truthfully I couldn't stand her she is so so superior to everybody I suppose that is how money effects some of the scum bag republicans. And Feefiphoney is the same I would love for something to come out about her. It looks like these republicans are all a bunch of scum.

[blue sky at night]

124. nail.....I am the hammer.....

you nailed it, the lower they are the more likely the pukes are to vote for them. This is far from over folks.

[Amerigo Vespucci]

8. Allred holding up the Social Security letter that Whitman said she never received n/t

[slackmaster]

9. How many undecided voters are going to see that as important enough to tip their decision?

That's the only question that matters.

[wtmusic]

15. Lie? Coverup? "I never knew you, you never knew me"?

That's a pretty despicable person to put in charge of the eighth largest economy in the world.

[BlueCheese]

26. In a better year...

I think this would have had a lot of impact.

These days, California is in such a mess and trust in state politicians is so low that I think something like this, while important, doesn't have the same oomph that it would have. That's just my impression, though. I may be completely wrong.

[lunatica]

74. Are you in California?

Because you're dead wrong. Ask the 37% of Californians who are Latino how they feel about Whitman's stand on 'illegal aliens' and her hypocisy in hiring them. I'll bet she has Mexican gardeners and maids too. This woman was her housekeeper and nanny.

[BlueCheese]

78. Yes I am.

Maybe I am wrong. I said I might be. It was just my impression. As far as I know there hasn't been a poll done since this news came out.

[slackmaster]

85. It's often a mistake to assume that California Latinos feel any particular way about anything

They don't all fit into a neat, predictable profile.

[Nostradammit]

93. Do you ever give it a rest?

[slackmaster]

100. "It"?

I've lived here all my life, and have met and interacted with a whole lot of Latinos. They don't stereotype easily.

[Wednesdays]

140. Yes, IT!

[Hekate]

131. True enough, but Latinos are a large and growing segment of California's electorate

Last census I think 50% of the elementary school students in my county were Latino. That's a bunch.

Hekate

[slackmaster]

147. That's why it's so important to understand that Latinos don't vote as a bloc on everything

They tend to lean heavily toward Democrats, but a lot of them are Roman Catholic and conservative on social issues like abortion.

They most certainly are not universally supportive of policies that are soft on illegal immigration. A lot of Latinos who vote are themselves first, second or third generation legal immigrants. The fact that many illegal immigrants happen to be Latinos does not automatically garner sympathy from Latino voters.

[JDPriestly]

125. Californians are ready for a Democratic governor for a change.

And Carly Fiorina is simply not likable. That's what people have told me (unsolicited by the way). I think Democrats will do really well in California.

[mike_c]

51. there's also the chance that it will demoralize conservative voters...

...who must increasingly be seeing their candidates as flawed by their own standards. Every disgruntled conservative who stays home because their candidates don't live up to their values is a vote that NutMeg won't receive. As a member of a California public employee union, that makes me smile. :-)

[Amerigo Vespucci]

10. Allred holding up letter PARTIALLY FILLED OUT BY WHITMAN'S HUSBAND!

The letter they NEVER RECEIVED and NEVER RETURNED!

[femrap]

70. Isn't that illegal????

I mean can't Meg be charged with something? Do you think she'd look good in orange?

Did a Fed dude ask her about this? If so, we can get her on the Martha Stewart crime.

[krkaufman]

145. Well, Meg can still say that SHE never received it ...

... so long as she's willing to throw her husband under the bus.

[gateley]

11. Whitman says she'll take a lie detector test. nt

[Uzybone]

13. pathological liars can't help but dig new holes

[Uzybone]

14. dupe

[Amerigo Vespucci]

16. There was a great episode of "The Shield" with a bit on how to lie during the test

When they ask you a loaded question, immediately substitute it in your mind with a question you can give an honest answer to.

[DiverDave]

146. I just took a 10Mg valium

when I took one back in the '70's.

The question was " was that your Marijuana?"

And I said NO.

Passed with flying colors

[Amerigo Vespucci]

17. Allred responds to the lie detector test offer:

"Meg Whitman can do whatever she feels she needs to do in order to justify her denial. I can't advise her. She's not my client."

[uncommon]

19. Good answer.

[Liberal_in_LA]

40. ouch!

[tomm2thumbs]

90. hahahah - great answer - 'justify her denial' hahahaha

Meg is going to slide under the mud for this one

big time loss

[stopbush]

22. Just what every candidate for governor wants a month out from an election.

:)

[femrap]

71. A Rovian

tactic....deny, deny, deny. Go aggressive and than go more aggressive.

Let her spend another month's worth of her money.

[Incitatus]

123. So? All they do is measure things like heart rate, respiration, blood pressure.. An experiencd liar

could pass that.

The evidence speaks for itself.

[immoderate]

148. I think it was Sam Ervin who said...

"If lie detectors worked, every wife would own one."

Not agreeing with the lack of PCness, just saying it's known that lie detectors are bogus.

--imm

[Amerigo Vespucci]

12. Allred: "Now that we've shown you the evidence...

...let's see if she's going to deny it."

:rofl:

[louis-t]

18. Oh, she'll keep denying it, and her faithful followers will ignore

because "they're just trying to destroy her".

[Parker CA]

20. When asked if she has the handwriting analyzed, Allred said if they deny the

handwriting is his she will bring further proof of their lies. Sounds like she has more info she can bring public if Whitman decides to continue her denial.

[Amerigo Vespucci]

23. "When you're in the hole, stop digging."

I agree...Allred would not be going down this road unless she had the goods to back it up.

[wtmusic]

24. If Meg goes head-on and is able to successfully dispute the provenance

of the letter, this could end up hurting Brown.

It's getting interesting.

[Parker CA]

35. That potential exists, but based on what Allred is saying, it sounds like she has plenty of

additional information to back up these claims.

No doubt this is going to get interesting.

[Bluenorthwest]

45. Dream on, that is the letter. Gloria is not going to play like that.

It is what it is, Meg and Hubby are the liars many Californians have known them to be for years.

[KingFlorez]

21. Cold busted

I can't wait to see what her next lie will be.

[Ignis]

25. Byeeeee, Meg!

:hi:

[demmiblue]

27. "We, we, we all the way home"

:rofl:

[Amerigo Vespucci]

29. You beat me to it!

Well, at least now people will know I didn't make it up!

:rofl:

:toast:

[Liberal_in_LA]

32. I love that commercial!

[femrap]

72. That's the best commercial....

plus I love pigs. For some reason I find them adorable.

Meg....we we we, you can go home now!

[Liberal_in_LA]

106. The pig in the commercial is super adorable with his little hooves and seatbelted tummy

:loveya:

[Occulus]

107. The really cute part is

we can all truthfully say "Thanks, Mrs. A.!"

[Liberal_in_LA]

109. lol n/t

[femrap]

110. OK, I'll admit

it...I have quite a pig collection. People found out and gave them to me as gifts....I've had to put a stop to this since I have waaaaaaaaaaay too many. But, they're damn cute! wee wee! I can even make a sound in my throat that sounds just like a pig. I must have been a pig in a prior life!

[Oilwellian]

118. Not to mention the teeny pinwheels :D n/t

[Amerigo Vespucci]

28. Allred just made a sly "pig" reference

When the reporter pressed her about how Whitman might not have seen the letter but the husband had, Allred reminded him that the reporter said "WE" didn;t receive it.

Then she repeated the word "WE" and said under her breath "We, we, we all the way home" (Three Little Pigs)...

:rofl:

[hlthe2b]

30. WOW... how did she GET that?

[Lochloosa]

39. Her husband wrote "Nikki check on this" on it and gave it to Nikki.

Nikki is the housekeeper.

[KansasVoter]

47. Can they claim they put the responsibility on the housekeeper?

[Lochloosa]

53. No. The letter states what "they" are to do.

Check her SS Card.
Get other ID
Etc.

[dkf]

144. It is the workers responsibility to clear up discrepancies

The employer has no capability to fix this as they are not authorized to even get details on why the info didn't match. In addition they are instructed not to assume the employee is an illegal worker. Firing someone based on an initial conclusion that a no match letter means the person is here illegally opens an employer up to anti-discrimation lawsuits.

[jberryhill]

54. No, that is clearly an implied message to "find a way to clean this up"

The letter wasn't sent to Nikki, and it provides a reason to believe that Nikki was using false information.

You don't then hand it to the person and say "fix this".

[bleever]

31. Reminds me of another gubernatorial campaign:

Adios, Meg.

[madmax]

33. Gloria, ya didn't let us down. nt

[femrap]

73. I wish we had more

like her.

[JoePhilly]

34. 120 milion wasted .... Bwahahahahaha!!!!

[hlthe2b]

37. My thought, exactly....

But, it saddens me to think what GOOD she could have done with that money...

[Brother Buzz]

41. Every radio and television sales department in the state thanks her

[Hepburn]

55. Yeah....

....:rofl:

[Hassin Bin Sober]

128. 120 million shot in the ass my dad would say!

[Amerigo Vespucci]

36. Allred: "To many, every dollar matters" (on why Whitman didn't turn Nikki in)

:rofl:

[hlthe2b]

38. Did the maid find and take the letter with her? How did Allred get it?

[Amerigo Vespucci]

42. That's the way I understand it...n/t

[Lochloosa]

43. Meg's husband wrote "Nikki check on this" on the letter then gave it to Nikki

Nikki is the housekeeper

[Amerigo Vespucci]

46. That's right, thanks...I was trying to remember what was said.

:patriot:

[DissedByBush]

156. I didn't know that, and it's not good for Nikki

Now the claim that Whitman knew she was illegal goes out the window.

The husband wrote "check on this" gave it to the housekeeper and forgot about it.

I just did some reading and the letter didn't say she was illegal, in fact said just the opposite that it makes no claim to such.

It just said there's a problem, and it needs to be checked. He asked Nikki to check it.

Unfortunately, this is starting to make Whitman look good.

[political_Dem]

44. Revenge is best served cold.

[MajorChode]

48. It may be too late in the game to make a difference

After Shrub was revealed to be a coke head, a drunk, and a deserter (from the Air National Guard no less), he STILL got elected. I always wonder how effective October surprises are.

[Amerigo Vespucci]

61. True, but there's one major difference...

...there was a major push by the fundies / evangelicals to paint Kerry as a "baby killer," and it happened in my own church. In a more subtle way, of course...we were encouraged to pray before voting and select candidates that "supported the rights of the unborn."

But elsewhere, the "Kerry is pro-abortion" (rather than "pro-choice") talking point was hammered and hammered and hammered. And the religious right did play a major role in sliming Kerry.

That's the reason why it was so amusing to see Karl Rove slam the evangelicals after they gave their support.

Plus, Whitman's spending $120 million on her campaign isn't playing too well with working class voters. It seems pretty clear that she wants to buy her way in and devote all of her attention to the needs of the "Have Mores."

Brown has laid back, for the most part, and now he's advancing...and he's doing so at a time when his opponent is weakened a little more every day.

[Hello_Kitty]

62. People will forgive stuff like that more readily than they will hiring an undocumented worker

Plus, in Shrub's case they defended it by saying it was 20 years ago and he had found Jeebus since then yada yada. Meg's shit was just last year.

[MajorChode]

69. Yes, they said it was "youthful indiscretions"

Even though it continued well into his 30's.

[northernlights]

112. Spanish television station there already has an ad out slamming nutmeg

they didn't waste any time. :D

I'm sure Allred must have more on her. The more Meg denies, the more she'll release. Like others, I was afraid Allred's crazy notoriety would backfire. Instead, this will be everywhere all the time.


There were letters sent to nutmeg every year for several years running. Maid said she saw them in the trash.
An IRS official interviewed today said they only send those letters to employers when TEN OR MORE employee names don't match SSNs. Reporter added in "nobody knows how many employees they had during that time" or something to that effect :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

This is going to be a fun show. :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:

[grasswire]

114. Bush WASN'T elected, remember?

He was appointed.

[jberryhill]

50. Perfect /nt

[Hepburn]

52. Whitman is...

...

:bounce: :applause:

[Imajika]

56. That's it?

I mean, they have this letter that Meg can simply deny she ever saw? The husband can just say he forgot about it and never told Meg.

And Whitman can back up her ignorance by saying she announced to her husband that Nikki just told her (this summer) that she was illegal and promptly fired her - but didn't want to make an example of Nikki thereby showing her compassion.

And Nikki was paid $23/hr by Whitman for 9 years and only terminated when she formally announced her status as illegal. $23/hr is not exactly hardship wages.

I really don't think this constitutes being "nailed". And that Allred had to fall back on Meg having said "we" instead of "I" makes this all the more flimsy.

After seeing this I am only further convinced that it won't end up hurting Whitman - and Nikki is so unsympathetic and Allred so opportunistic that it might even help Meg in a round about way. Everyone knows Whitman might have had suspicions that Nikki was illegal, but there is no proof of that, Meg didn't fire her till she knew for certain (when Nikki announced it officially), and Meg didn't make an example of her.

This won't end up being a story that alters the dynamics of this election much either way.

[Binka]

59. Good Gawd I Haven't Put You On Ignore?

How the f*** did that happen. Oh good fixed now.

[JuniperLea]

68. I'll follow your lead...

Life is too short.

[fascisthunter]

98. no kidding

[Ramulux]

60. No

The thing is that the husband has also said that he never saw any documents. This first if all shows that the husband was obviously lying and hes going down for sure, the question is whether he is going to take all the blame and say he never told Meg. Either way this is not a good situation for the Whitman family.

[Amerigo Vespucci]

64. ...and in the court of public opinion, he can say whatever he wants

...because no one's going to believe that he saw the document and never discussed it with Meg. Holy crap, if I were living in Atherton with an undocumented worker as my housekeeper, I'd tell MY wife...and so would most people in that situation.

Of course, this also depends on Whitman not knowing about all of this from the beginning...it's founded on "she didn't know until the letter that she never saw arrived."

Allred will pick THOSE bones CLEAN.

[Imajika]

66. Oh, sure, it's bad for the Whitman's for a few days...

I mean, it completely knocks Meg's campaign off stride.

It's just that I expected something bigger from Allred. If this letter is it, and Meg can just say she didn't see it, I just don't think there is much else to keep talking about. I thought that yesterday, but after today's press conferences I am further convinced this wasn't much of a "bombshell". I mean, Nikki really has no serious allegations. Meg is left in a position to say she did the right thing the whole time. The husband will just say he jotted a note on the letter and forgot about it.

There just isn't much here. Nikki is really not particularly sympathetic considering she did make $23/hr and voluntarily worked for the Whitman's for 9 years - and was only terminated when she officially told Meg she was here illegally. I mean, Whitman is just going to claim she was doing the right thing from moment one, and that her husband just made a mistake. Unless Nikki is alleging the Whitman's were particularly nasty in ways we don't know about yet, I just don't see anything to keep this story going much past this week.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

116. "and was only terminated when she officially told Meg she was here illegally"

And you believe that? Really?

You believe the housekeeper just waltzed up to Meg one day and blurted out "I'm here illegally!"?

What a coincidence! After nine years she decided to fess up right when Meg decided to run.

You are trying too hard.

[Imajika]

143. Isn't that what the housekeeper says happened?

"You believe the housekeeper just waltzed up to Meg one day and blurted out 'I'm here illegally!'?"

That she announced "officially" that she was here illegally and wanted help with an immigration attorney?

"What a coincidence! After nine years she decided to fess up right when Meg decided to run."

Yes, but that is basically what Nicky said happened.

Nicky is also maintaining that Meg had to know she was here illegally due to the SSA letter, but that letter alone still leaves the Whitman's with plausible deniability.

[pinboy3niner]

65. "$23/hr is not exactly hardship wages." EXCEPT...

Nikki was paid for only 15 hours per week, no matter how many additional hours she worked. She got NO pay for extra hours worked.

[4lbs]

75. Futhermore, they didn't pay any taxes, because she was illegal.

That's the main point.

No federal payroll taxes, no Social Security, no State Disability, etc.

[BlueCheese]

80. They must have.

How else would the SSA know about all this?

[Imajika]

86. I thought the letter from SSA would indicate they were...

..paying taxes. And Nicky was paying taxes too. The SSA is saying there is a problem with that SSN, but I didn't think that meant taxes weren't being paid.

So how is this the main point?

[Pathwalker]

76. For 15 hours of work, regardless of how many hours she worked!

That's $345.00 a week. In California! Yeah, she could live like Cher! :sarcasm:

[frylock]

79. 15 hours a week..

15 x 23 x 52 = 17940. could you live comfortably on $18000?

[opihimoimoi]

57. Her supporters getting riibbed, teased, taunted mercylessly....will abandon Witless asap

[Rosco T.]

58. Boom goes the dynamite!

she's toast.

[Geoff R. Casavant]

67. Did you perchance get that from Family Guy's Cleveland?

I just watched that episode yesterday and made a point to remember that phrase.

[Brickbat]

81. "Boom goes the dynamite" is a phrase that came from this video that made the rounds a few years ago:

The worst sports guy ever...if you can watch without squirming for this guy, you have a heart of stone.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W45DRy7M1no

[fishwax]

83. here's where it came from originally

I'm not the one you asked, but here you go just the same: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyAGZ41btx8

Apparently, the guy in the video was a friend of one of the journalism students who did sports on the Ball State student station, and for some reason he wound up filling in at the last minute. I guess the teleprompter is tougher than it looks. The phrase in question is about 2:20 into the video ...

[Rosco T.]

99. Actually I got it from Keith Olbermann...

.. when he did a piece on it.

But I like Cleveland too :) :)

[frogmarch]

63. I watched it

and also read the comments as they poured in. It was hilarious seeing republicanz having a group hissy fit. :-)

[Dappleganger]

77. Oh please, she's not lying...

she "MISSPOKE."

:sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm:

[Duer 157099]

87. So wait. Nobody followed up on the lettter?

They get this letter asking for more info, nobody replies to it and then the matter is just dropped, just like that?

Really? No, I don't think so.

[pinboy3niner]

91. They probably sent out one or more followup letters...

...Which may be part of the additional evidence Allred is prepared to provide, if necessary.

[BellaLuna]

88. This won't' keep her followers from voting for her though

They think like she does and doing these kinds of things is ok unless you're a Democrat.

Either way I don't think she's going to beat Jerry when it's all said and done.

[Manifestor_of_Light]

89. We got Cryptkeeper I and Cryptkeeper II.

Cryptkeeper I is Sharron Angle.

Cryptkeeper II is NutMeg.

[Amerigo Vespucci]

97. Don't forget Jan Brewer

[Jackpine Radical]

95. While I was reading all this stuff, I got hit with a deja vu.

Anybody else notice a possible similarity to Bush/National Guard doc/Dan Rather? Is this the first step in a Roveian setup?
I really don't know who the players here are other than Whitman. At first I thought Allred was maybe some kind of right-wing website (like Redstate, ya know?).

[TheWebHead]

96. I'm a big suspect about the benefits of a Allred and Whitman feud

Gloria Allred is an extremely unpopular person throughout the country, an attention seeking camera chasing attorney who is constantly the subject of ridicule. If this person is who is so unpopular is going on the attack, it may elicit more sympathy with Meg than elicit any damage.

[slackmaster]

101. It's bound to be entertaining!

:hi:

Everyone should relax. Brown is going to win easily.

[bluerum]

102. Whaaat?! She is repukian AND a liar??

Where is the beef?

[LawnKorn]

103. I love it when Republicans lose

Election is over. Brown wins.

[LawnKorn]

104. K&R

[SalmonChantedEvening]

105. SLAM!

Read it and weep Whitless. :evilgrin:

[pinboy3niner]

108. K&R

:kick:

[defendandprotect]

111. This could get waaaay interesting .....

[DissedByBush]

115. However busted she it, it is sad to see Brown this desperate

How much dumpster diving did it take to turn up this illegal immigrant?

BTW, I do await her arrest for falsifying official documents and her subsequent deportation.

I also await the imposition of fines against Whitman for knowingly employing an illegal.

While we smile at the fact this is going to take Whitman down, we shouldn't overlook the crimes that have been committed.

[GReedDiamond]

117. Yeah, that "Nikki the Housekeeper" is a real public menace...

...she oughta be doin' a "hard 20" sentence for her fraud.

Just ask James O'Keefe III.

insert sarcasm tag here

[huskerlaw]

119. Brown isn't desperate

He's ahead in the polls. Has been the entire time, despite Meg spending $140M+ of her own money.

There's also no proof he has anything to do with this.

[donheld]

120. What evidence do you have that Jerry Brown was in on exposing this?

[DissedByBush]

155. I don't believe in coincidence

You know if this were Republicans you'd think Rove was behind it.

The political machines on both sides operate the same way.

[Amerigo Vespucci]

121. Brown is desperate? How, exactly?

So far, no one has provided proof that Brown had anything to do with this. That "no one" includes you.

And if it does take Whitman down, I'll celebrate that before anything else, because as a Californian, this woman should not be given the keys to the car under any circumstances. I'll high-five whatever slap on the wrist she might get for the incident itself after she loses the election.

[onpatrol98]

122. This is so weird...

I'm thinking if I'm in a country illegally...the last place you're going to see me is on television complaining about being mistreated on the job. I'm sorry. This is just strange.

I would AVOID PRESS COVERAGE.

Now, ole Meg, looks to me like she has the potential to be truly mean if she wants to...but, she would never have to worry about getting my vote anyway.

As warm and fuzzy as it makes me feel to see Meg circling the drain...you would have to PAY ME WELL to get me to sit and participate in a press conference as an undocumented worker being accused of using false documentation in this current climate.

I mean...what about basic journalistic curiosity for just a minute?

1) Is she still working illegally in the USA?
2) Who is her current illegal employer?
3) Who hired her illegally after old Meggie?
4) Who hired her illegally before old Meggie?
5) Has she now exposed her children to possible deportation if any of them are in the country illegally?
6) Did she seek out an attorney for her case of <:shrug:> "I was illegally working for a mean a#* employer and only making $23 an hour in a state full of unemployed Americans? Where do I sign up? I mean, I'm legal, but I've had some truly foul employers in my past. Will Gloria represent me?
7) Did she see an opportunity to put the screws to an old, rich, mean boss? What would she gain? Her old job back??? She was hired illegally. Back pay??? An apology...

Again, I'm sorry. I'll wait patiently to be bashed. But, even after you bash me for being less than loyal for not closing my eyes, and holding my nose for this strange story...it'll still be strange.

I really can't like Meg any less than I already do. She had no popularity with me to begin with, of course. But, honestly, for me...this makes Jerry stink just a wee bit. It looks like they went and dug up something to take everyone's focus off of them talking about real issues.

I would really rather hear him tell how he'll tackle that. To me...he's been in the job. He can easily stay on the high road with Meg. He knows what it takes to make executive decisions, blah, blah. He can beat her on substance.

And, even though it's Gloria Allred presenting this strange circus...people will associate it with Jerry Brown's campaign (and I realize that's unfair). But, it's just too darn convenient.

[denbot]

127. How many years of back pay at $23 per hour if she can prove approximate hours actually worked.

She is owed a minimum of 200k+ on a 40 hour work week, and 300k+ if she worked on average of 10 hours or more overtime. That is plenty of reason to go public, and for Gloria, any case that brings a lot of coverage is gold to her.

[pinboy3niner]

129. The housekeeper was paid a total of $17,940 in 2002...

...according to the SSA documents. That's 15 hours/week at $23/hour for 52 weeks--far less than the nearly $48,000 that a full-time wage of "$23 an hour" would pay.

If the housekeeper actually worked 40 hours per week--while being paid for only 15 hours--her pay works out to about $8.63 for each hour actually worked.

That's not exactly champagne wages after all, is it?

[Aramchek]

126. you have to be kidding, right? Jerry was winning before this even came out.

Now he's going to absolutely trounce Nutmeg.

[xultar]

134. What the fuckity fuck?

[davidhilton]

137. Why'd they put a hold on your rec?

[Hekate]

130. I just knew they could get the Megster on undocumented household workers. Now let's see if anybody

... gives a damn outside of Congressional committees playing "gotcha" with Dem nominees to high office. Same with Carly Fiorina.

Go, Gloria!

Hekate

[ZombieHorde]

132. Recommended. nt

[Lindsey]

135. I live in CA and nutmeg is scary beyond belief. My God, her

commercials regarding what she'll do if elected makes me shutter. She employed an undocumented worker when one of her talking points is punishing companies that employee undocumented workers! Unbelievable. Brown's polling numbers have been inching up (and that was before this). We all know Gloria often takes on cases for exposure. However, in this case, I think she's right on target.

[Amerigo Vespucci]

151. I am a proud Californian, that is why I posted this

Californians understand what Atherton is.

It's the town where the "Have Mores" live, and NO ONE ELSE.

It is basically on the border of Redwood City and Menlo Park...GHETTO neighborhoods, no polite way to put it. Shitholes. And in the middle is this brilliant shining diamond called "Atherton."

Meg lives there. So does her lying piece of shit husband. And when the election is over, they can retreat to their Atherton home...$140 million short of her billion-dollar bank account...but relatively unscathed.

FUCK this woman. FUCK this liar. This is MY state. I DESERVE BETTER.

:patriot:

[Iwillnevergiveup]

133. I'm trying to recall a time

when there were no nutMeg commercials on T.V. She's been running a long, long time, but it's over.

:popcorn:

[davidhilton]

136. I can't wait to put my X by Brown's name, though Queen Meg trips me out.

Chances are, her base doesn't care one bit about this.
I doubt anybody that's not a Dem --- and down to the left ---- will not vote for Brown.
Thats my take on it.

[Hubert Flottz]

138. All republicans are liars!

[Hubert Flottz]

139. Anybody that "fucking NAILED Whitman" should put several hefty

bags over her hefty head!

[The Wizard]

141. Today's worst person in the world.

With a special homage to Howard Cosell:
Down goes Whitman. Down goes Whitman. Down goes Whitman.
Watch this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4-WjL8jIyQ

[jeanmarc]

142. The most expensive nanny ever!

It's too bad the nanny won't see any of the 116 million Whitman has wasted.

[radhika]

149. Right wingers tend to survive 'NAILS'...alas

Ensign, Vitter, Newt and a bigots in elected office. The RW base doesn't really care, they just want to make their corporate theocracy the New America. I doubt if this kerfuffle will flip any pro-Whitman voters.

[closeupready]

150. I love Gloria.

:)

[AtomicKitten]

152. It was a delightful take-down of Ms. Corporate Moneybags. nt

[RobertSeattle]

153. What sucks is that still 30% of the CA Voters will vote for her

"...but but but she's not a Democrat!"