Which Dem Pres. Candidate do Conservatives Fear Most?

[AnnInLa]

DEM FIELD: A Vast Pro-Clinton Conspiracy

Right Wing NewsJohn Hawkins asked 240 conservative bloggers: "If we absolutely had to have a President chosen out of the Big 3 Democratic contenders, which one would you most prefer to see as the POTUS." The results: Hillary Clinton 59%, Barack Obama 25%, and John Edwards 16%.

http://blogometer.nationaljournal.com/archives/2007/05/518_the_end_of.html

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Evidently Edwards is the most Progressive, and Clinton is the most conservative, to the RW blogosphere.

So, all of the OP's here that declare Edwards to be toast are just giving in to the RW scare-machine.

[TwilightGardener]

1. That's so we nominate Hillary. So they can beat her.

[cassiepriam]

12. Yep, Repugs have a real shot at winning in 08 if Hillary is the Dem nom.

They have been flooding money into her campaign.

[TahitiNut]

2. Kucinich.

Any candidate not on the "corporate payroll" scares them.

[Ron Green]

22. You damn right!

Kucinich is so right on the issues that even lots of DUers are scared of him. I'd love to see him as President. I'm ready to make a better world.

[Bucky]

3. Clinton, to them, is a known known (thanks for the term, Donno!)

Given their druthers, they'd take the most corporate friendly or the most demonizeable candidate among our people. Clinton happens to fill both slots. She's not a RINO, but she would do the least amount of damage to the Republicans if she's successful.

[William769]

7. Ending corporate welfare makes her friendly?

[William769]

4. All of them.

Haven't you all learned that by now.

[JeffR]

23. Best response on the thread

I think you're absolutely right.

[MethuenProgressive]

5. Oh please.... name *one* right winger who'd be happy with Hillary as President.

But of course, we should base our choice of candidates on a poll of Right Wing blogs...

[Clark2008]

6. None of them.

Because none of them, thus far, that I've seen, can appeal to the swing Bubbas (white males who are swing voters) in any of the red/purple states.

Sorry. I consider this year to look bleak, despite all the cheerleading here. I spend a lot of time here, but I live far outside of the blue bubble in the real world.

[William769]

9. I guess it's true, there is nothing worse than a woman scorned.

[Clark2008]

26. I guess it's true: that was a sexist statement.

:wtf:

I live in a red/purple state. People here don't like Hillary, like Obama, but have a severe case of voting-booth racism and don't even REMEMBER who the fuck Edwards is (seriously, a conversation before I left work ensued on who he was).

This has nothing to do with Clark 2004 and everything to do with the fact that white male swing voters do not see HRC, Obama or Edwards representing them - and they vote more than any other demographic in the South and mid-West.

[LSparkle]

8. Edwards -- you can see it in the attacks

The haircut, the house, the "he's a phony because he cares about the poor," the hedge fund consultancy ... You don't hear HALF the negativity coming out of the nutjobs about Hillary or Obama that they express about Edwards.

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

10. Yes, because they know that ANY "generic white male" Dem candidate (not saying that Edwards IS one)

will beat their field, including Fred Thompson, by a considerable margin.

Obama gives Republican voters a REASON not to vote for him because of racism, overt or subconscious.

Clinton has over a decade of continuous demonization in the popular and rightwing media, it's a huge smear campaign that's already been completed, not a penny more needs to be spent (although many, many more pennies WILL be spent nonetheless).

[Clark2008]

27. I'm sorry - Edwards will lose handily to F. Thompson.

Please come visit my state for a brief primer in this fact. All one needs to do is turn on talk radio.

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

28. So are you saying a Fred Thompson presidency is inevitable if he runs?

After all RW radio is not going to say that ANY Democrat is going to beat their boy.

[Connie_Corleone]

11. Kaiser Soze. nt

[cassiepriam]

13. Gore, he beat them last time. nt

[librechik]

14. Edwards, he won last time too

though they won't admit it.

Gore's not running.

[cassiepriam]

15. Time will tell :)

Never say never.....

[ThomWV]

16. And He'll Beat Them NEXT Time Too

[FrenchieCat]

17. I believe that the right fears each candidate for different reasons.....

They fear Hillary because Bill Clinton kicked their ass twice without blinking, and even going after Bill with a vengeance, they still didn't get any real satisfaction. They understand that Hillary will play hardball, and they would prefer to deal with one who is not as familiar with their lay of the land. They will attack by reminding folks of Hillary's health care, the myth that terrorism was allowed to flourish under her husband, and call her liberal as many times as they can. However, they know that she's the riskiest of all propositions if she gets the Nom, because she been there; done that and learned additional valuable lessons each time without ever losing.

They fear Obama, because they can't quite figure who he might get out there to vote for him in the General election....like maybe all of the Black folks in south as well as young people everywhere. The GOP count on minorities and young people voting in low numbers each election, and usually they are not disappointed. However, if Obama is the general election candidate, a vaste number of minorities and young people combined might just come out and vote and drown out any planned vote stealing. It is the normally apathetic voters that they are most afraid will show up in droves. They will attempt to depict Obama as an upitty Black man who is a lightweight and lacks experience. They will also do a "covert" racial attack of some sort. Thus far, however, they have failed in defining Obama, and so they may attempt to have him "fade away" during the primaries instead (see Tucker and Hardball recent words as examples).

They fear John Edwards because, to be honest, he is a good looking conventional candidate with an attractive family and a boy done good all American tragic story (death of son and illness of wife). Edwards may fare as well in the race, but with him, it does depend on who the GOP candidate is more than the others, i.e., if they end up with Romney it could turn into the battle of the Domes with Edwards edging out Romney due to the Mormonism issue and the fact that Edwards is from the south while Romney is from MA. If it is McCain, Edwards will be toast because McCain can be sold as a man's man with his heroism trumpeted (Hillary voters will not care about this as they are supporting a woman and Bill, and Obama voters want a Black man in office so McCain is not as attractive to them either) who understand southern values although he is from the southwest. The GOP's plan to depict Edwards as a weak effiminated self obsessed metrosexual has succeeded in part as of now. IMO, Although he would also be tough to beat, they would prefer him more than the other two because they have more material (he wants to raise taxes, has a trillion dollar health care plan, and advocates for both Union and the Poor, i.e., special interest groups in political speak apart from his already defined image) thus far...and unlike Hillary, Edwards can't point to an 8 year successful administration to counter their attacks. Because he is the most conventional candidate, the GOP is probably most confident that they can control that situation better than the others.


That's how I see it.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

18. Gore

because Gore knows the truth about them

[Demeter]

19. EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM!

The GOP is toast, burnt toast at that. They want to take down the whole Democratic Party, which is why they signed up for this vast Right-Wing conspiracy, and it bit them hard, in tender places.

The GOP will not exist by the time the election rolls around. It will have disintegrated into primeval ooze, with chunks floating in it.

[Orsino]

30. Possibly.

Unnamed Dem trounces all them, I believe.

They'll breathe more easily, though, as the field narrows and the media swift-boating kicks into high gear. They can smear any one candidate, anyway.

[wanpete]

20. even though there seems to be very little love for Hillary on the DU, I truly believe she is their

biggest fear. watch who they attack most viciously. that is the person they fear the most.

[RockLacrosse20]

21. Not Obama

Republicans should want Obama to get the nod, his lack of experience of 2 years in big time politics will show the American public he is not seasoned enough to be the most powerful man in the world and head of the most powerful military and government in Earth's history. He has to short of a career to really understand Washington or executive government in anyway shape or form. Sure he sounds and looks nice, but last time we elected someone with no experience to the presidency (well not really elected) we got GWB, who only had 6 prior years to becoming president (1995-2001) and look what happened. We need a principled but pragmatic leader who can handle the Washington establishment.

[newyawker99]

25. Hi RockLacrosse20!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[AnnInLa]

24. With respect, I think some of you have mis-read the question

It wanted the conservative bloggers to assume the Presidential RACE IS OVER, and a DEMOCRAT has won. It didn't ask which Dem candidate do you want to run against. Knowing that the Dem winner would probably be Pres for 8 years, which one do you want it to be? Since Edwards got the least number of votes, I think they are afraid of a Progressive President.

[Clark2008]

29. But Edwards isn't all that progressive - at least his voting record

isn't.

:shrug: