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Cyrano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-22-10 11:43 AM Original message |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-22-10 11:45 AM Response to Original message |
1. K&R. I wish I could do it 100 times. |
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Cetacea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-22-10 11:48 AM Response to Original message |
2. I'm kinda getting off on being hated here |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-22-10 08:56 PM Response to Reply #2 |
38. Well, even if I don't agree with all you write |
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zipplewrath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-22-10 11:50 AM Response to Original message |
3. That which does not kill me, makes me stronger |
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Cyrano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-22-10 04:14 PM Response to Reply #3 |
13. Yep, I agree. And I wish that all the debates here were socratic. |
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zipplewrath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 10:01 AM Response to Reply #13 |
92. You get what you put into it |
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Cal33 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-22-10 04:59 PM Response to Reply #3 |
18. Idealistic and philosophical. Unfortunately there aren't many |
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JNelson6563 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 09:41 AM Response to Reply #3 |
90. lol "socratic debate" |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-22-10 11:51 AM Response to Original message |
4. There isn't really much fighting here |
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RandomThoughts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-22-10 11:53 AM Response to Original message |
5. I understand that, but much of the energy that helps in battles against bad. |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-22-10 11:57 AM Response to Original message |
6. KoKo put up a good thread a couple days ago that, I think, lays out the fundamental |
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Individualist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-22-10 11:59 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Thank you for posting that. |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-22-10 12:49 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. You're very welcome. |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-22-10 04:27 PM Response to Reply #6 |
16. +1000 nt |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-22-10 05:52 PM Response to Reply #6 |
23. +1 and thanks for the link. |
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Jamastiene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-22-10 07:30 PM Response to Reply #6 |
33. That is the elephant in the room. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-22-10 11:59 AM Response to Original message |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-22-10 12:01 PM Response to Original message |
9. Will you tell all the teachers that their only enemy is the GOP? |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-22-10 05:09 PM Response to Reply #9 |
22. Must every thread be a teacher thread? |
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Missy Vixen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-22-10 06:13 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. Oh, absolutely it is |
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Scurrilous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-22-10 01:37 PM Response to Original message |
11. K & R |
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obxhead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-22-10 01:47 PM Response to Original message |
12. Our common enemy is the corporations. |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 09:35 AM Response to Reply #12 |
89. and after watching Olbermann |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-22-10 04:20 PM Response to Original message |
14. It's far more hurtful when someone you think is on your side does you dirty.. |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-22-10 07:13 PM Response to Reply #14 |
29. that's where the heat comes from -- political is personal, and there's many people |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-22-10 07:14 PM Response to Reply #14 |
31. Exactly. FWIW, I see owners as the enemy - not fellow workers. nt |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-22-10 04:23 PM Response to Original message |
15. So where do we go when our Democrats are |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-22-10 04:37 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. I believe the best strategy is to elect even more Democrats as a means to reduce |
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Cal33 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-22-10 05:05 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. You're right. But how to do it? |
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PBS Poll-435 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-22-10 05:08 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. Recommend that folks don't pee in the pool. |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 12:59 PM Response to Reply #19 |
111. I believe it's totally ok for the left wing to constructively criticize a Democratic Administration |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-22-10 06:53 PM Response to Reply #17 |
26. Unless those five to ten extra senators turn out to be |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 12:47 PM Response to Reply #26 |
110. I doubt all of them would turn out |
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bigwillq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-22-10 05:08 PM Response to Original message |
21. As long as we're fighting for good causes IRL, |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-22-10 06:01 PM Response to Original message |
24. Nighttime kick. |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-22-10 06:55 PM Response to Original message |
27. It makes you wonder if people who consistently habitually search out |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-22-10 07:10 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. Seems that you missed the point of the OP completely |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-22-10 07:13 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. seems like you have no grasp of the words "consistent" and "habitually" |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-22-10 08:06 PM Response to Reply #30 |
34. Proving my point emphatically |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-22-10 10:19 PM Response to Reply #34 |
39. In the last 24 months since President Obama was elected we have seen |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-22-10 10:44 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. Once again, you prove the point emphatically |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-22-10 11:43 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. I dunno, lots of opinion and rehashed bloggerel involved with your |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 12:02 AM Response to Reply #43 |
45. Seems to me that the current predicament the Dems find themselves in speaks for itself |
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USArmyParatrooper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 12:07 AM Response to Reply #45 |
46. Funny. "the Dems find THEMselves in".... not OURselves. |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 12:12 AM Response to Reply #46 |
48. Lol |
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frylock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 10:47 AM Response to Reply #46 |
97. he's lives in australia and stated as much in the post.. |
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USArmyParatrooper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 11:13 AM Response to Reply #97 |
101. And? |
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frylock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 12:38 PM Response to Reply #101 |
109. and? |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 11:39 AM Response to Reply #46 |
106. Quick! See if he floats in water! |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 12:11 AM Response to Reply #45 |
47. Backhanded? Stabbed in the back??? |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 01:28 AM Response to Reply #47 |
58. I'd be more worried about constituencies and progressive interest groups who had it happen to them |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 01:35 AM Response to Reply #58 |
59. So your basic tack here is to prognosticate a 1994 |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 01:46 AM Response to Reply #59 |
63. Not a "tack" just recognition of a similar dynamic |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 01:57 AM Response to Reply #63 |
67. I'd say that your last paragraph speaks for itself and says everything |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 03:49 AM Response to Reply #67 |
74. Indeed |
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canetoad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 02:25 AM Response to Reply #63 |
71. Deppo, you live in Oz, just like me |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 03:14 AM Response to Reply #71 |
72. Actually, I've mentioned a phenomena (or set of 'em) common to both countries |
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suzie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 07:41 AM Response to Reply #72 |
81. Seems like you still didn't respond to canetoad. |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 08:01 AM Response to Reply #81 |
82. If you're looking for a shallow gotcha |
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suzie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-24-10 06:16 AM Response to Reply #82 |
121. Please don't insult those involved in 12 step programs by associating with them |
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Cherchez la Femme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 11:35 AM Response to Reply #58 |
105. Funny |
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JNelson6563 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 05:34 PM Response to Reply #47 |
115. Forgot to mention that big heavy cross to drag around! |
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Kahuna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 01:56 AM Response to Reply #45 |
66. I prefer to be part of the solution instead of part of the problem. Not voting |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 12:40 AM Response to Reply #40 |
51. and you have proved the point empirically |
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NanceGreggs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 12:46 AM Response to Reply #51 |
52. A-fuckin-men. |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 12:56 AM Response to Reply #51 |
53. Whoop, there it is!!!!!! |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 01:38 AM Response to Reply #51 |
60. If you want empirical (or quantifiable) look to Nate Silver or Drew Westen |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 01:41 AM Response to Reply #60 |
61. So what you're saying is you have more exclusive |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 01:49 AM Response to Reply #61 |
64. You can read the material and judge its merits for yourself |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 01:53 AM Response to Reply #64 |
65. I do, yet I cannot find the pejoratives and the invectives that you seem to |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 02:02 AM Response to Reply #65 |
68. You can either read the complete piece (and related pieces and books) or skim |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 02:11 AM Response to Reply #68 |
70. Well... |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 06:05 AM Response to Reply #70 |
77. Sadly, that tends to be the fallback response |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 10:50 AM Response to Reply #77 |
99. Suddenly a sage |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 11:43 AM Response to Reply #99 |
107. Amazing how many names he just started dropping |
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inna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 05:02 AM Response to Reply #51 |
75. "you revealed the radical nature of your anti Obama rhetoric" - oh FFS. |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 08:09 AM Response to Reply #75 |
83. Amen! |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 11:35 AM Response to Reply #75 |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-24-10 12:45 PM Response to Reply #75 |
124. +1 |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 10:11 AM Response to Reply #51 |
93. "you revealed the radical nature of your anti Obama rhetoric." |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 10:47 AM Response to Reply #93 |
98. It's self-evident |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 10:46 AM Response to Reply #51 |
96. Hear! Hear! |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 02:50 PM Response to Reply #51 |
114. +1...nt |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 05:53 PM Response to Reply #39 |
116. Have the DU rules regarding bigotry against region of residence changed? |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 01:26 AM Response to Reply #34 |
57. Who is that? |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-22-10 07:14 PM Response to Original message |
32. I would say only %5 of DU likes to fight all the time. |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-22-10 08:09 PM Response to Original message |
35. I thought those who didn't care less if they were stepping over our |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-22-10 11:50 PM Response to Reply #35 |
44. Well.... |
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Cherchez la Femme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 12:05 PM Response to Reply #35 |
108. All for the defense of one man |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-24-10 06:43 AM Response to Reply #108 |
122. It is astounding and dismaying. nt |
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inna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-24-10 12:02 AM Response to Reply #35 |
119. + |
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Proud Liberal Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-22-10 08:10 PM Response to Original message |
36. I've been thinking the exact same thing for a long time now |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-22-10 08:55 PM Response to Original message |
37. Very well spoken |
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southmost (528 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-22-10 11:00 PM Response to Original message |
41. i'm getting over the cynical circular firing squad |
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Born_A_Truman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-22-10 11:28 PM Response to Original message |
42. Elect Democrats! |
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Lindsey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 12:17 AM Response to Reply #42 |
50. Cyrano, I absolutely agree with you. I mean...WTF???????? n/t |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 12:17 AM Response to Original message |
49. k&r |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 01:16 AM Response to Reply #49 |
54. Hey, swamp rat, howareya?? |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 01:22 AM Response to Reply #54 |
55. Way'at cliffordu! |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 01:24 AM Response to Reply #55 |
56. That photo says it all..... |
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lafayettelonewolf (75 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 01:42 AM Response to Original message |
62. K & R |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 02:05 AM Response to Original message |
69. some of those ''trying to destroy our way of life'' are doing so from within the Democratic Party |
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ibegurpard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 07:42 PM Response to Reply #69 |
118. yup |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 03:21 AM Response to Original message |
73. Agreed. We're all disappointed in the state of things political. |
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tomp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 05:34 AM Response to Original message |
76. the friend of my enemy is my enemy. |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-24-10 12:19 PM Response to Reply #76 |
123. Not ALL Democrats are in the pocket of the rich, but enough to have made the supermajority in the |
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tomp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-24-10 09:26 PM Response to Reply #123 |
126. generally agreed. |
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Roland99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 06:14 AM Response to Original message |
78. Sometimes that "fighting" means going against those in the party who act like the other side |
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carolinayellowdog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 07:03 AM Response to Original message |
79. Divisive bullies need to be put on ignore |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 07:08 AM Response to Original message |
80. Your premise is incorrect. |
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Cyrano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 11:16 AM Response to Reply #80 |
102. "... you BEGIN your missive by referring to us as "trolls," ... |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 08:14 AM Response to Original message |
84. K & R! |
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swilton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 08:44 AM Response to Original message |
85. What's in a Name? |
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ThatsMyBarack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 08:46 AM Response to Original message |
86. Well put! |
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kjackson227 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 08:50 AM Response to Original message |
87. Great post, and one that should be K & R on a daily basis. |
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swilton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 08:50 AM Response to Original message |
88. What is in a name? |
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proReality (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 09:51 AM Response to Original message |
91. K&R n/t |
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Aaria (238 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 10:23 AM Response to Original message |
94. Divide and conquer , it's a very old method. |
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Cyrano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 01:57 PM Response to Reply #94 |
113. Could you please elaborate on that? |
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Aaria (238 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 07:41 PM Response to Reply #113 |
117. We have the obvious trolls that lurk about the site that stir up....... |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 10:41 AM Response to Original message |
95. I agree |
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Plucketeer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 11:02 AM Response to Original message |
100. The problem is, we aren't blindly, the party of "yes" |
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earcandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 11:19 AM Response to Original message |
103. Yea, what they seem to have that we don't do well is to act in solidarity. We seem to care to much |
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foxfeet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 01:13 PM Response to Original message |
112. K&R |
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LatteLibertine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-24-10 02:09 AM Response to Original message |
120. I've always known the GOP |
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anaxarchos (963 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-24-10 12:56 PM Response to Original message |
125. Your premise is mistaken... |
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