Anti-Prop 19 forces are really desperate as they come out guns blazing

[robdogbucky]

with lies, fear, hate, etc.

This is one of the ads that runs here on DU. When you do the DU Google search for Prop 19 you will find this website advertised. It is hysterically named "Marijuana harms families," and if that perjorative phrase does not catch the attention the first few lines of their terra spiel continues:


"Marijuana kingpins are moving beyond "medicinal marijuana" and now want to usher in a FULL-BLOWN marijuana culture to forever change California (Prop. 19). Hollywood actors, marijuana money bosses, adult film “entrepreneurs” and even the NAACP are calling for pot legalization. They want the next generation to think it's "normal" to "get high"!

Studies show marijuana is a gateway drug to cocaine and meth...."


It would be hysterically funny by all reefer madness standards if these folks weren't serious, but alas they are. Notice how they have lumped kingpins, Hollywood actors, marijuana money bosses, adult film entrepeneurs and the NAACP. Sounds like some serious anti-Dem innuendo there.

More hilarity for the low-information voter on that site:

"...If pot is legalized, your health and auto insurance will likely cost more because increased addictions, accidents, and drug rehab will burden all Californians. “Drugged driving” will become commonplace. It will be a new "right" to get high on marijuana at work, even in transportation jobs..."


I guess they didn't hear that pot is not addictive, but they sure like to bootstrap that erroneous concept in the same sentence with driving. I guess they either didn't realize that many many folks are driving every day while stoned or that illegal cell phone use (illegal at least here in Cal) causes far more dangers on the road than any pot smoker that might be driving. Nor did they read the recent test results on pot and driving:


Marijuana Smoking Associated With Minimal Changes In Driving Performance, Study Finds
FRIDAY, 28 MAY 2010 13:00 PRESS RELEASE AUTOMOTIVE


"Hartford, CT—(ENEWSPF)—May 28, 2010 Subjects exhibit virtually identical psychomotor skills on a battery of driving simulator tests prior to and shortly after smoking marijuana, according to clinical trial data published in the March issue of the Journal of Psychoactive Drugs.

Investigators from Hartford Hospital in Connecticut and the University of Iowa Carver College of Medicine assessed the simulated driving performance of 85 subjects in a double-blind, placebo controlled trial. Volunteers responded to various simulated events associated with automobile crash risk — such as avoiding a driver who was entering an intersection illegally, deciding to stop or go through a changing traffic light, responding to the presence of emergency vehicles, avoiding colliding with a dog who entered into traffic, and maintaining safe driving during a secondary (in-the-car) auditory distraction. Subjects performed the tests sober and then again 30 minutes after smoking a single marijuana cigarette containing either 2.9 percent THC or zero THC (placebo).

Investigators reported that volunteers performed virtually the same after smoking cannabis as they did sober and/or after consuming a placebo. "No differences were found during the baseline driving segment (and the) collision avoidance scenarios," authors reported.

Investigators did note, "Participants receiving active marijuana decreased their speed more so than those receiving placebo cigarette during (the) distracted section of the drive." Authors hypothesized that subjects' reduction in speed on this task suggested that they may have been compensating for perceived impairment. "o other changes in driving performance were found," researchers concluded..."

http://www.enewspf.com/index.php/latest-news/automotive/16666-marijuana-smoking-associated-with-minimal-changes-in-driving-performance-study-finds-




My goodness, if the viewer of these lies, fear-mongering and propaganda could read the contradictory evidence to all their scare tactics this world would be a much better place.



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[ladywnch]

1. 2.9 potency?!?!!!!! where the hell did they even FIND 2.9 weed?

30 years ago we were smoking 8% potency!!!!!and MMJ is going anywhere from 18-30% potency.... I'm all for Prop 19 but we can't use data as flawed as they do to get it passed.

[robdogbucky]

2. Wait a minute there

Where do you get 18-30%?

Do you mean THC content? I agree the test mentions ridiculously low amounts used, but c'mon.

The highest I have ever seen at a dispensary is 12-16%

That is for the "put your dick in the dirt," indica kush with purple hairs.

My god, I wonder where you find that stuff that you claim is 18-30%? BC?

You can PM me as I know about 3 million people that line up for the Blackberry Soda or GrandDaddy Purp that would like to know.

There is a second testing criteria they are now using measuring one of the chemicals found in cannabis that is also found in the body, something cannabinoidal or something.

Really want to know where to find that.




Hands off my Social Security!
Hands off Latin America!




Just my dos centavos


robdogbucky

[ladywnch]

12. I had thought it was in a similar range as you list here (approx 12-20%)

but in talking to my care provider/grower he said he has been hearing potency up to 30%. I don't know what testing methods they used. I was floored but figured he'd know better than me since he is 'in the business' and I was just out of touch. I apologize if I got your hopes up.

[robdogbucky]

13. So, in reality

What you asserted was really a he said, she said type of thing and not based in any direct knowledge on your part, correct.

I have visited several dispensaries and the highest THC content I have seen was 16%.

Now that we have identified who made this representation, could you ask him/her where? How much? How soon?


Thanks in advance.



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[robdogbucky]

3. By the way

We need more of the testing protocol mentioned re: double blind/placebo control testing, for all applications of this weed, including a universe of things never tested for. Almost all testing ever done here had to receive the imprimatur of the govt. which never allowed any objective testing that produced results contrary to the prevailing lying policy. As for safety, the fact of no lethality attached to this weed speaks volumes about the bogus scare tactics foisted to fool a naive public.

This is a gift to us and we should learn how many different ways it can be beneficial.





Hands off my Social Security!
Hands off Latin America!



Further centavos


robdogbucky

[BakedAtAMileHigh]

4. the same group thinks public schools teach children to be homosexuals

The groups opposed to Prop 19 are led by total idiots.

[robdogbucky]

5. Hey Baked....

You never answered my PM. I need some recipes for my vaporizer dung.



Thanks in advance!



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[BakedAtAMileHigh]

6. sorry sorry. I'm on it now!

My bad!

[robdogbucky]

7. As for outrageous scare tactics

check this site out. It is linked right here at DU.

http://www.marijuanaharmsfamilies.com/


Some of the bile from it:


"...Studies show marijuana is a gateway drug to cocaine and meth. Teens and young adults are especially at risk from today's potent, mind-altering marijuana, which can permanently damage their developing brains and young lungs. If pot is legalized, your health and auto insurance will likely cost more because increased addictions, accidents, and drug rehab will burden all Californians. “Drugged driving” will become commonplace. It will be a new "right" to get high on marijuana at work, even in transportation jobs. Marijuana legalization means cities and counties can OK selling pot in grocery stores and permit marijuana operatives to buy thousands of acres of farmland..."


I love how they are creating concern for the well-being of our kids. Yeah, like don't smoke pot and win like a zillion gold medals, or the Cy Young award two years in a row, nor don't go to work for Barbara Boxer's office. Yup, pot will ruin your life kids.

This is all they have, but they do have money and folks do resonate to fear in messages from those they feel have authority.

Same old same old.



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[NMMNG]

8. Why not just play clips of "Reefer Madness"?

It's public domain so they won't even have to pay for it--and it would be just as factual as the crap they're spewing.

[Lyric]

10. "Reefer Madness" - a.k.a., Social Revolution

It's no wonder the government hates for people to get high. We're much easier to control when we're constantly miserable, achy, and exhausted.

[NMMNG]

11. They should be itching to legalize pot

Then they could regulate and tax it. People would get stoned and have the munchies, thereby driving sales (yay profits) of snack foods. Businesses would thrive, tax coffers would be filled, and everybody would be very, very happy.

But who am I to expect logic out of the government?

[Lyric]

9. I don't smoke pot. However, I fully support the right to do so.

Unlike lots of other Americans, I am capable of fully supporting a right that does not directly benefit ME.

There's nothing wrong with marijuana, and I fully support it for both medical AND recreational use. "Getting high" is not a bad thing. We only think it's bad because the government has drilled it into our heads for decades that being "high" is eeeeevil.

Getting high doesn't make you bad, or irresponsible, or unproductive. However, it DOES tend to make you less closed-minded and less content with the rat race. I guess we just can't have people feeling discontented with the establishment! Who's going to wash the cars and flip the burgers of the rich if THAT happens?!

:sarcasm:

[robdogbucky]

14. I don't smoke pot either

Vaporize




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[geardaddy]

15. "It will be a new "right" to get high on marijuana at work, even in transportation jobs..."

Is it a right to get drunk at work? :crazy:

What idiots.