The elephant in the room..the systematic looting of the us treasury

[xiamiam]

in the name of spreading democracy..the no bid contracts, the stock market fueled by the war machine, gross profits of oil companies while gas is at an all time high, halliburton exec moving to dubai, the attempt to sell the ports to dubai, bush buying land in paraguay,the conspiracy with evangelicals and neocons to perpetuate never ending war...for profit....the countless hearings re scandals and criminal activity...

LETS JUST START WITH THE MONEY...WHO HAS IT..HOW DID THEY GET IT....AND GO BACKWARDS FROM THERE...my bet is that all roads lead to Cheney and his buddies ..

[NMDemDist2]

1. no kidding! n/t

[valerief]

2. Duh. I don't know why people don't want to face this fact. nt

[MH1]

3. The elephant in America's wallet. n/t

[Sapere aude]

4. You are right on target I think. None of the arguments for or against the

Iraq war get to the real heart of the matter. I had this discussion with a right winger yesterday. I said I thought the war in Iraq was started to increase the wealth of corporations like Halliburton and it's owners. It had nothing to do with our security or terrorism. Of course she said I was full of shit!

[L. Coyote]

5. bumper stickers: THE $$ BILLIONS $$ or Where do the bucks STOP?

This is a great idea for a massive compilation thread, if it could fit into one!!

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FBI is currently investigating over 189 major corporate frauds = THE $$ BILLIONS $$

Three Years After Enron It Looks Like No One Learned a Thing
by Charlie Cray
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/1218-12.htm

The FBI's new five-year strategic plan has a section on white collar crime that begins with a startling admission:
"Major white collar crime will impact the U.S. economy over the next five years."

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Here is a start with ust one industry in focus: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x877011
U.S. attorneys investigate BILKING BILLIONS, Medicare, Medicaid, Military’s Healthcare

Topics:
How is it that $$ BILLIONS $$ of fraud does not put CEOs in jail?
How is it that $$ BILLIONS $$ of fraud cases seem to evaporate or settle for so little?
How were those $$ BILLIONS $$ in lobbying by single industries spent? Where do those bucks STOP?

Focus: The BIG PICTURE.

[xiamiam]

6. with the support of congress persons who do not want to upset their money making contributors..nt

[annabanana]

7. It is the reason that PNAC succeeded as long as it did

in consolidating power. The greed heads understood that the PNACers agenda would reap windfalls for all of them, so they payrolled everything they could think of to promote them.

There has been a systematic shovelling out of money at the Counting House. With a REALLY BIG SHOVEL:

[dogday]

8. Did they ever find the missing money in Iraq?

8 billion was it?

[Greyhound]

11. I'm not sure because of the combination of silence and obfuscation in the media,

but I believe there is about $18B missing. The $9B missing from the accounting and an additional $8B - $9B in cash that was on pallets in a trailer that disappeared in the early days of the occupation.

[loudsue]

14. There is currently over 3 TRILLION missing from the pentagon

If Americans ever start adding up what our military ALONE costs us in taxes, and how it's going to build up and tear down Iraq over & over again, they're going to finally revolt. We have 3/4 $Trillion EVERY YEAR in the military budget ALONE...more than the next top 30 industrial nations COMBINED. Every base that is opened overseas, guarding other people while our Katrina victims drown, is in the billions.

The auditors that tried to audit the pentagon's spending finally threw up their hands... they couldn't figure out WHERE the money went. And thanks to Halliburton, Bechtel, Fluor Daniel, Kellogg Brown & Root, Blackwater...they will NEVER find all the money.

THIS is the issue that will bring ALL AMERICANS together. Trillions of our tax dollars going up a wild hog's ass, while none of it gets plowed back into city & local & state governments to support AMERICANS... our schools, our water, streets, police & fire protection...NOTHING goes to us.

And through no-bid contracts, most of it goes to republican campaigns.

All that debt our country is racking up is OUR money being wasted. Plain & simple.

TRILLIONS.

:kick::kick::kick:

[Az]

9. Military Industrial Complex

The pentagon. During the cold war there was a constant flow of cash going through the Pentagon and into the hands of defense contractors. But with the fall of the Soviet Union this tap was shut down. Corporations exist only to increase profit and power. The ties the Defense industry had made with the government guaranteed that this condition could not last long. A new threat had to be found or invented that would continue the flow of cash to the Defense Industry.

[xiamiam]

10. and WHO got the bulk of the defense contracts? halliburton and its subsidaries..and now they are

..at least one so far..is moving to dubai..no extradiction treaty..

[xiamiam]

12. and, need to rant, i am so worked up over this today...dead eye was in dubai just last week...then

news yesterday is that halliburton chief is moving to dubai at the end of the week...WTF..who announces they are moving at the end of the week?...no one on the planet that is more despicable to me than the vp....halliburtons assets should be frozen...today...suspicion of war profiteering...

[TrogL]

13. their goal - bankrupt Congress so it can't fund social programs

[formercia]

15. The same thing happened in Germany

the war could have ended much sooner but the bankers, industrialists and NAZIs needed more time to loot germany and the occupied countries.

Same gang, new war.

[wiggs]

16. Don't leave out mining, forestry, pharmaceuticals, wall

street (what is propping up the market?), big agriculture!

[porphyrian]

17. How do we get it back?

Voting and complaining don't seem to work.

[file83]

18. We should seize all the war profiteers assests and pay off the national debt.

There has got to be TRILLIONS of dollars out there.

[porphyrian]

19. At least. How many trillion are unaccounted for again?

I'm not entirely against seizing assets, as long as we follow some sort of legal procedure. Certainly, there are enough war profiteers out there who are guilty. If we skip the trial, we do nothing to restore integrity to our government.