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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 10:22 AM Original message |
UAW praises Rahm, Obama and calls Ratner book 'a bunch of baloney' |
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johnaries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 10:24 AM Response to Original message |
1. K&R for exposing the truth. |
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NYC_SKP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 02:17 PM Response to Reply #1 |
52. Me, too. (nt) |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 10:25 AM Response to Original message |
2. I guess that's why they backed Blanche Lincoln... |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 10:27 AM Response to Reply #2 |
5. Non sequitur. |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 10:30 AM Response to Reply #5 |
11. Absolutely relevant to whether the administration's union friendly or not |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 10:36 AM Response to Reply #11 |
13. Reality is that the admin saved the UAW from complete |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 10:41 AM Response to Reply #13 |
15. LOL- perhaps you didn't pay attention to what's happened to salaries and benefits |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 11:19 AM Response to Reply #15 |
30. "you're poised to lose and lose badly" |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 02:39 PM Response to Reply #30 |
56. depakid's slip is showing... |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 03:18 PM Response to Reply #56 |
64. Really, an Australian who has nothing in stake in US elections? |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 06:41 PM Response to Reply #56 |
86. For 'em or agin 'em is all some people know |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 07:30 PM Response to Reply #86 |
92. It's easy for you to be idealistic when you don't have to deal with the consequences |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 08:45 PM Response to Reply #92 |
105. We saw the writing on the wall and warned you all about what would happen |
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canetoad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-07-10 03:11 AM Response to Reply #105 |
126. Try as hard as you like |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 07:31 PM Response to Reply #86 |
94. When you start supplying facts instead of |
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Catshrink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 10:44 AM Response to Reply #13 |
18. By busting their wages and benefits... |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 11:17 AM Response to Reply #18 |
29. The UAW disagrees that Obama busted their wages and benefits. |
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Catshrink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 11:48 AM Response to Reply #29 |
35. Read |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 11:52 AM Response to Reply #35 |
36. Yes, they kept their jobs and got an equity stake |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-07-10 05:27 AM Response to Reply #36 |
140. the workers didn't get an equity stake. you're misinformed. the international |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-07-10 02:20 AM Response to Reply #11 |
124. and its up to us to tell the Unions what is best for them!!! |
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phleshdef (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 10:31 AM Response to Reply #2 |
12. Does that bother you? Are you now unsupportive of the UAW then? |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 10:38 AM Response to Reply #12 |
14. Nope- I just don't care for shallow equivocation |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 11:20 AM Response to Reply #14 |
32. No, we have the UAW saying Obama did them a solid. |
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phleshdef (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 02:05 PM Response to Reply #14 |
46. Sidestepping the issue. The UAW says they were treated good by this admin, you disagree. |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 02:17 PM Response to Reply #46 |
53. +1... |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 06:45 PM Response to Reply #46 |
88. I could care less about one person's or another's he said/she said |
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POAS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 02:33 PM Response to Reply #14 |
54. Are you UAW? I am! |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 02:40 PM Response to Reply #14 |
57. The UAW says the Obama administration has been good to them.... |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-07-10 05:52 AM Response to Reply #57 |
142. No, Bob King is saying it. Bob King isn't "the UAW". He's part of the leadership that gave them- |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-07-10 08:52 AM Response to Reply #142 |
151. ^The only post on this thread telling the truth ^ |
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Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 10:25 AM Response to Original message |
3. Excellent. Kudos to the UAW for clearing out the bullshit. |
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Number23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-07-10 01:11 AM Response to Reply #3 |
120. I agree. Kicked and rec'd |
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Scurrilous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 10:26 AM Response to Original message |
4. K & R |
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Tippy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 10:28 AM Response to Original message |
6. K&R For truth and justice...Bring back the Unions |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 10:30 AM Response to Reply #6 |
9. The Obama haters are out unreccing this. |
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Scurrilous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 10:59 AM Response to Reply #9 |
26. Indeed. n/t |
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OneGrassRoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 10:28 AM Response to Original message |
7. Very interesting. Thank you!! |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 10:29 AM Response to Reply #7 |
8. Rahm Emmanuel drops the F-bomb regarding just about everyone. |
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OneGrassRoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 10:46 AM Response to Reply #8 |
19. I know, that's why I didn't doubt he said it.... |
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TreasonousBastard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 11:39 AM Response to Reply #8 |
33. . |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 10:30 AM Response to Original message |
10. The actions of the administration speak volumes compared to this story |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 10:43 AM Response to Reply #10 |
17. Absolutely right. |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 10:53 AM Response to Reply #17 |
24. and this is a perfect campaign message to labor also /nt |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 10:59 AM Response to Reply #24 |
25. Exactly. It will fit well with the infrastructure project Obama |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 11:02 AM Response to Reply #25 |
27. Agreed, I am sick and tired of the timid responses from the Democratic party. Call them out |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 10:43 AM Response to Original message |
16. Doing my part to send this to the greatest. |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 11:56 AM Response to Reply #16 |
37. I'm sure Emmanuel did say it, but so what? |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 01:34 PM Response to Reply #37 |
41. I honestly believe if he did |
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tridim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 10:46 AM Response to Original message |
20. Hmm, I wonder what other BS is being amplified daily on DU? |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 10:47 AM Response to Original message |
21. K&R |
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one_voice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 10:48 AM Response to Original message |
22. Thanks for posting.... |
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stray cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 10:51 AM Response to Original message |
23. So now the UAW are traitors as well by DU standards? |
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TreasonousBastard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 11:41 AM Response to Reply #23 |
34. Not by DU standards. Just the "empty barrel" contingent's. |
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iamthebandfanman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-07-10 07:51 AM Response to Reply #23 |
148. howd you gather that assumption? n/t |
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azmouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 11:03 AM Response to Original message |
28. Thanks for the truth on this issue! |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 11:19 AM Response to Original message |
31. That was my first question when I heard |
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tkmorris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 12:05 PM Response to Original message |
38. The UAW didn't praise anyone, Bob King did |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 02:00 PM Response to Reply #38 |
43. +100. |
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Kahuna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 02:08 PM Response to Reply #38 |
48. I'm sure that the UAW are thankful to the administration for saving their jobs. |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 03:22 PM Response to Reply #48 |
67. No, the people in here disagreeing with the UAW head |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 03:16 PM Response to Reply #38 |
62. Are you a member of the UAW, or are you just smearing |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-07-10 07:49 AM Response to Reply #38 |
147. If that were in any way, shape, or form true, he'd be replaced. |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 12:20 PM Response to Original message |
39. Give credit where credit is due |
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quiet.american (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 01:11 PM Response to Original message |
40. Now let's see if those whipping up the furor spread King's quote far and wide, too. |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 04:45 PM Response to Reply #40 |
73. No, they engage in character assassination against the UAW head |
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JTFrog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 01:44 PM Response to Original message |
42. Kick & Rec! |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 02:01 PM Response to Original message |
44. this thread is a laff riot. uaw membership fell 18% 2008-2009, that's what a fucking great thing |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 02:42 PM Response to Reply #44 |
58. 18% versus 100%. It would have been 100% without the auto bailout |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 03:15 PM Response to Reply #58 |
61. your proof for this assertion is? |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 03:17 PM Response to Reply #61 |
63. The fact that GM and Chysler needed to be bailed out |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 03:19 PM Response to Reply #61 |
65. GM/Chrysler: "Please bail us out or we're filing Chapter 7" |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 03:20 PM Response to Reply #65 |
66. The bondholders and hedge funds would have taken over |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 06:17 PM Response to Reply #65 |
85. Perhaps Hannah thinks Chapter 7 is a chapter in a book that can be skipped. |
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polmaven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 08:41 PM Response to Reply #61 |
104. And all of that has what, exactly, |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 03:15 PM Response to Reply #44 |
60. As opposed to a 100% decrease and 100% unemployment. |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 04:55 PM Response to Reply #60 |
75. GM wasnt going bankrupt. They werent making money in the USofA |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 05:24 PM Response to Reply #75 |
77. So, you wanted him to let GM and Chysler just close down |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 06:41 PM Response to Reply #77 |
87. Please do not put words in my mouth. I want the Pres to change things so that |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 07:34 PM Response to Reply #87 |
97. You are entitled to your own opinions, but not your own facts. |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 10:33 PM Response to Reply #97 |
114. GM is an international corporation and did not go bankrupt. They may have pulled off some |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 10:50 PM Response to Reply #114 |
115. Sorry, you are just stating blatant falsehoods. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-07-10 05:57 AM Response to Reply #115 |
144. They're not moving out of the country? They've built at least 5 facilities in china alone since |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-07-10 07:55 AM Response to Reply #115 |
149. I am "unworthy" of dialog? Well excuuuse me. nm |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-07-10 02:42 PM Response to Reply #149 |
168. What a shitty thing to say to another DUer. |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 02:02 PM Response to Original message |
45. So...Rahm did not say "Fuck the UAW?" That's a lie? |
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Kahuna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 02:07 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. What difference does it make? Did he DO the right thing? Yes he did. nt |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 02:11 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. Bullshit. He DID the wrong thing when he verbally attacked the left and the UAW. nt |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 03:13 PM Response to Reply #49 |
59. No one who cares about labor issues would pretend |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 04:35 PM Response to Reply #59 |
70. "saving the auto industry" |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 04:40 PM Response to Reply #70 |
71. There is a UAW member in this thread, and he/she says |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 05:26 PM Response to Reply #71 |
78. Shush with your facts! The perennial Obama bashers don't care what the UAW thinks about Rahm! |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 05:30 PM Response to Reply #78 |
79. It's quite remarkable--the elected head of the union |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-07-10 05:06 AM Response to Reply #79 |
137. it's not like the members voted for him. it's a rigged delegate system. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 09:33 PM Response to Reply #71 |
111. ...read their annual reports. 2007: |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 09:45 PM Response to Reply #71 |
113. the worker may say so; doesn't mean he's informed or correct. |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 10:57 PM Response to Reply #113 |
118. Then again, so far in this thread, you "saying so" has implied the opposite is true. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-07-10 02:43 AM Response to Reply #118 |
125. please link me to where i say "0 jobs is better than tens of thousands that were saved". |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-07-10 03:12 AM Response to Reply #125 |
127. "I don't believe the bankruptcy was necessary" |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-07-10 03:47 AM Response to Reply #127 |
128. Because the gov't money & muscle let them get it done quick & on terms they liked -- instead |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-07-10 04:27 AM Response to Reply #128 |
130. The alternative was dissolving the union contract and selling the assets |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-07-10 04:34 AM Response to Reply #130 |
131. Yeah, Hannah keeps talking as if there would be a reorganization without the bailout |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-07-10 05:02 AM Response to Reply #131 |
135. building new plant in china during the "bankruptcy" |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-07-10 05:53 AM Response to Reply #135 |
143. Again, so what? |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-07-10 11:16 AM Response to Reply #143 |
158. only if one is willfully blind. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-07-10 04:57 AM Response to Reply #130 |
134. The fact that you say so doesn't make it fact. |
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Vinnie From Indy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-07-10 10:27 AM Response to Reply #118 |
155. I have to reply to this point that has been offered by many on this thread |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-07-10 10:56 AM Response to Reply #155 |
156. And the new plant would have been non-union. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-07-10 11:18 AM Response to Reply #156 |
159. like this, you mean? |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-07-10 11:33 AM Response to Reply #159 |
160. Multiplied X200. nt |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-07-10 01:00 PM Response to Reply #160 |
163. oh, it will be. |
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Number23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-07-10 01:14 AM Response to Reply #71 |
121. Go get 'em, geek! rofl |
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polmaven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 08:47 PM Response to Reply #70 |
106. Which Union is it |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 07:09 PM Response to Reply #59 |
89. Bullshit. |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 07:30 PM Response to Reply #89 |
93. Yes, he valued the jobs of the American auto workers and he took a huge |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 07:31 PM Response to Reply #93 |
95. . |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 07:32 PM Response to Reply #95 |
96. Brilliant counter-argument and a perfect summation |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 07:39 PM Response to Reply #96 |
98. Keep going. No matter how many last words you think you've got, |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 07:47 PM Response to Reply #98 |
99. You've yet to refute a single thing he's said.... |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 07:55 PM Response to Reply #99 |
100. Yep, nothing more than "everything Obama does is awful |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 08:25 PM Response to Reply #99 |
103. You've yet to refute a single thing I've said. Just ad hominum attacks. nt |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 09:02 PM Response to Reply #103 |
108. We're still awaiting your analysis of why |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-07-10 07:03 AM Response to Reply #108 |
145. "We." Have you got a mouse in your pocket? |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-07-10 02:45 PM Response to Reply #99 |
169. ROFL @ "and doesn't have the character to admit it" |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-07-10 07:49 PM Response to Reply #169 |
172. That it is. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 09:42 PM Response to Reply #93 |
112. pre-bailout gm employed about 90K people. post bailout that went to 60K, now ~40K. |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 10:55 PM Response to Reply #112 |
116. GM employs 100K in North America. nt |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-07-10 02:17 AM Response to Reply #116 |
123. April 20, 2010: GM shed 65K jobs in the last year. |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 10:55 PM Response to Reply #112 |
117. What you are missing is that even if your numbers were correct, they are ALL greater than 0 |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-07-10 04:08 AM Response to Reply #117 |
129. $60B for 40K jobs. 65K lost. If you have a problem with the numbers, take it up with the reporters |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-07-10 04:36 AM Response to Reply #129 |
132. You are the one that can't understand that positive > zero, not even COUNTING the spillover effects |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-07-10 04:51 AM Response to Reply #132 |
133. Here's what I understand: the cites are in the articles linked above. |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-07-10 05:03 AM Response to Reply #133 |
136. So what??? |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-07-10 05:07 AM Response to Reply #136 |
138. GM purposedly destroyed its own "suppliers," e.g. delphi. which used to be GM. |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-07-10 05:32 AM Response to Reply #138 |
141. Your entire post doesn't even CLAIM to rebut anything I wrote in my previous one. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-07-10 01:10 PM Response to Reply #141 |
164. it does, but you are willfully blind to it. |
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blue_onyx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-07-10 01:38 PM Response to Reply #133 |
165. So... |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-07-10 01:46 PM Response to Reply #165 |
166. "China requires companies to build there " |
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blue_onyx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-07-10 02:20 PM Response to Reply #166 |
167. Let me rephase it |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-07-10 02:46 PM Response to Reply #167 |
170. It was the NEW YORK TIMES "website" & what you posted was a rah-rah piece supporting |
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blue_onyx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-07-10 03:30 PM Response to Reply #170 |
171. You're the one who doesn't know what she's talking about |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-10 12:28 AM Response to Reply #171 |
173. the chinese auto industry was built by foreigners & foreign investment. |
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blue_onyx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-10 09:50 AM Response to Reply #173 |
174. LOL |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 11:18 PM Response to Reply #112 |
119. Deleted message |
Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-07-10 05:17 AM Response to Reply #119 |
139. yep, if a mugging saves one $15/hr job, it's a victory for some. |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-07-10 07:11 AM Response to Reply #59 |
146. And there are hardly ever F-bombs dropped during union meetings...nt |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 02:15 PM Response to Original message |
50. K&R... |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 02:17 PM Response to Original message |
51. thank you for reporting words actually spoken from the source |
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Peacetrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 02:37 PM Response to Original message |
55. K&R |
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Tarheel_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 04:25 PM Response to Original message |
68. You mean "unnamed source" got another one wrong? K&R..... |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 04:34 PM Response to Original message |
69. Correction: high-level, non-elected union leader secures his cozy position. |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 04:42 PM Response to Reply #69 |
72. Hilarious how you bash the union leadership when |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 04:45 PM Response to Original message |
74. This King guy is speaking for himself. He isn't the UAW. Obama saved the auto industry DESPITE Rahm. |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 05:22 PM Response to Reply #74 |
76. He is the elected head of the UAW. |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 05:43 PM Response to Reply #76 |
80. He is one guy at the top position. And Rahm got overruled. Who are you? (nt) |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 05:49 PM Response to Reply #80 |
81. Rahm got overruled? |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 05:58 PM Response to Reply #81 |
82. "doesn't that mean that Obama is capable of rejecting his bad advice?" Rahm was overruled. So, yes. |
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TheBigotBasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 06:14 PM Response to Reply #81 |
84. Did he get overruled? |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 08:11 PM Response to Reply #84 |
101. Yup. He got overruled and now he wants credit for something he didn't do. Again. |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 09:04 PM Response to Reply #101 |
109. I'm open to that possibility. |
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polmaven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 08:53 PM Response to Reply #74 |
107. Wow...you were in the room? |
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Bobbie Jo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 06:02 PM Response to Original message |
83. K&R |
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TomCADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 07:12 PM Response to Original message |
90. No! Ignore The Fact That Obama Administration Save U.S. Auto Industry!!! |
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Denzil_DC (268 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 07:19 PM Response to Original message |
91. K&R n/t |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 08:21 PM Response to Original message |
102. "La La LALALALALALALALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOUUuuuuuuu!!!!" |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 09:10 PM Response to Original message |
110. Rahm's a pretty cool guy. Eh saved the auto nuion and doesn't afraid of anything. |
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Hekate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-07-10 01:28 AM Response to Original message |
122. Kickety kick and Rec |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-07-10 08:39 AM Response to Original message |
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Lost4words (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-07-10 09:00 AM Response to Reply #150 |
152. if he was he would sound like YOU! nt |
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Lost4words (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-07-10 09:06 AM Response to Original message |
153. if ours was a free market GM would have had to find its own survival plan |
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snooper2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-07-10 09:18 AM Response to Original message |
154. The folks here who hate Obama and Rahm are really in a tizzy now |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-07-10 10:59 AM Response to Original message |
157. Admirable. I think he's keeping his eye on the big picture. n/t |
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162. Kick |
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