Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Did I hear it right on KO? That even though the war tsar has to be approved by Congress

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU
 
Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-16-07 11:15 PM
Original message
Did I hear it right on KO? That even though the war tsar has to be approved by Congress
he is not answerable to Congress--only the President.
So if they delegate the entire war to the tsar--does that mean that Congress will not be able to get answers on the war because it will all be done by this guy?
This shit is really making me sick.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 12:02 AM
Response to Original message
1. I missed KO tonight, but what I had heard was that the czar doesn't have any
real authority. He would need to go to the President or the head of the NSA to get anything done. There will be a lot of confusion at first because no one really knows what this guys supposed to do.

I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 12:10 AM
Response to Original message
2. Does this mean he gets to approprate money for the war.
bypassing congress for that also.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 12:20 AM
Response to Original message
3. Could be.
That happened with the Privacy and Civil Liberties Board. From Countdown Tuesday night:

LANNY DAVIS, RESIGNED FROM PRIVACY AND CIVIL LIBERTIES BOARD: Hello, Keith.

OLBERMANN: So the 9/11 Commission suggested this oversight board. The Washington Post says the administration made hundreds of revisions and deletions to its very first report? What is going on here?

DAVIS: Look, I have to start by saying that this is a genuine difference of opinion. The White House council, Fred Fielding, who was on the 9/11 Commission, disagreed with the process of editing and deleting aspects of our report to Congress. But there are people in the White House and in the administration who saw this legislation putting us in the Office of the President as creating a board that was part of the White House staff no different than anybody else. And that was their opinion.

My opinion was that the Congress intended us to provide real oversight, but in-house criticism and review of some of these programs that might have infringed on civil liberties, such as the national security letters, which the inspector general of the Justice Department did say constituted serious abuses. Now that difference of opinion, where the White House council actually agreeing with my view, means that the real problem is Congress in creating what is a square peg in a round hole, putting what should be an oversight independent entity in the Office of the President.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18700776/
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
KellyW Donating Member (539 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 01:55 AM
Response to Original message
4. The way I understand this...
The tsar is really a deputy National Security Advisor. Which is does not need to be confirmed. The congress does have to sign off on command positions given to 3 stars, which this guy is.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 02:59 AM
Response to Original message
5. Tsar = fall guy for misbegotten war
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 03:07 AM
Response to Original message
6. part of the spin
in creating a 'war czar' is the 'war czar' will bust through the layers of bueracracy to get what is needed

:eyes: creating another level of bueracracy will help bust through the layers of a bueracracy?

looks more like creating a perfect pet scapegoat to take the blame for the lack of progress with the Iraq occupation.

No plan, no "power", no oversight -- yeah right, Operation Pet Scapegoat will will be another slam dunk... :eyes:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Sun Oct 22nd 2017, 11:54 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC