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edhopper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-10 07:57 AM
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The GOP Mosque gambit worked
With the willing aid of the MSM, the GOP has made the phony "Downtown Islamic Cultural Center" into a big story.
Completely overshadowing the real 9/11 story. The obstruction by the Rethugs of health care to Ground Zero workers.
And why the Dems (especially Obama) aren't saying this everyday is beyond me.
Good people will die because of this lunacy!

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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-10 08:05 AM
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1. The GOP realized that the general population would side with the families and the
Edited on Sat Aug-21-10 08:07 AM by dkf
left would side with the Muslims. They set us up. in reality this isn't about muslims being "the other" but about us being the other.
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edhopper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-10 08:13 AM
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3. But the GOP did not side
with the workers who now suffer because they cleaned up ground zero.
This is the real story.
But the GOP have made this fabricated BS the news story.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-10 08:38 AM
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7. 9/11 workers are not 9/11 families.
9/11 workers are the victims of our goverments failure to protect them adequately. This is Giulianis fault.
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Raineyb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-10 08:42 AM
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8. Set us up? Anyone who stands with the Muslims are doing the right thing. How is that a set up? n/t
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-10 12:25 PM
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10. That is right in the eyes of a minority of the population. By 2 to 1
The majority believe sensitivity to the grieving is more important.
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DonCoquixote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-10 08:05 AM
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2. why
Did this work, because even people like Howard Dean insisted that we had to soothe the feelings of the bigots, and of course, the fact the GOP played this has nothing to do with those "he's really a Muslim" vibes..who knows, maybe Hillary will primary him in 2012 and we can finally get that nice war with Iran.
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kevinbgoode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-10 08:14 AM
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4. I think it is very safe to say that there is no such thing as the "liberal"
MSM now. . .that outrageous non-story has had so much airplay that "news" anchors might as well have been reading word-for-word press releases from the RNC as fact.

It is bad enough that the entire "news" cycle is constantly dominated by whatever ridiculous, over-the-top statement falls out of some right-wing loon's mouth. But that has become so normalized now that the media looks for ways to create new "controversy" from every wingnut fringe element that can issue an email press release. The other sides? You will rarely hear a peep - just like we so often only see weak "spokespersons" allegedly "representing" another point of view on the air just so the public can see them shut down (or shouted down)in a pretend "debate."

There isn't a newscaster in America with the balls to actually question how a con-artist con-servative self-proclaimed "Christian" can lie with impunity, even with the evidence in front of their faces. Hell, they won't even call them "self-proclaimed" or "self-identified Christians" - nope, they are simply "Christians," despite an affinity for breaking a major commandment every time they open their pieholes.

Michelangelo Signorile brought up a very interesting point recently about just how far the MSM has gone over to the dark side. When a gay group, for example, "outs" a "conservative" public official, using attributed quotes from people who have had experiences or know of experiences with the guy, the MSM refuses to speculate on the officials sexual orientation (think Lindsay Graham, for example, or Crist). At best, they'll say "rumored" if anything at all. Yet, when Judge Walker issued the Federal District Court decision regarding Proposition H8 a couple of weeks ago, every major media outlet proclaimed him as "gay" and it was spread around (mostly fed by repeated right-wing talking points) like wildfire as "fact." The only evidence? A San Francisco Chronicle article which once said his sexual orientation was an "open secret" - using no evidence and no attributed references. The media's defense when this double standard was brought to their attention? "Well, he didn't DENY it."

It's the same way they seem to handle the Dr. Laura "controversy." It's rare to see an MSM outlet actually EXPLAIN the First Amendment to the American public, even though much of our population is so ignorant about how our government works that they'd vote their own rights away if the media told them to. . .Instead, we heard the same, tired, con-artist con-servative defense of "her First Amendment rights being violated" as if she is somehow entitled to have a radio show to run her mouth. I've come to the conclusion that conservatives believe there are two First Amendments. One for them, which entitles them to unlimited use of the public airwaves to say whatever they want about their fellow citizens because they "own" them and free speech is only allowed if you OWN the means of broadcast or are being PAID to talk; and the other First Amendment is for the "little" people, who are entitled to have an opinion but have no business engaging in public criticism of any conservative talking point or having access to media to engage in that criticism.

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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-10 08:15 AM
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5. The left has done the predictable....
divided itself into factions over the absolute garbage. We do not stand united and we do not allow ourselves to agree on central tenets and stand by them. If we continue to behave in this manner then we deserve the world we will have created.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-10 08:33 AM
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6. yes burying the hatchet would be a good idea before November
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pampango Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-10 09:04 AM
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9. A simple matter: if they comply with the law (building & zoning code) & the laws are constitutional,
that is really the end of the story.

If I want to build a building somewhere and comply with all the zoning and building codes, the government can't come along and say you can't build THAT here. If they didn't want THAT there, they should have changed zoning or building codes to prevent IT from being built.

If the government comes along and says, "Sure you complied with all the relevant laws and regulations, but we don't like you so we're making a exception in your case and prohibiting you from building here", well, the lawyers will have a field day with that. Of course, the repubs know that you can't legally and constitutionally stop them from building there which makes this a great wedge issue since it won't go away.
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LatteLibertine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-10 12:48 PM
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11. If "the people"
vote the GoP back into majorities, they get what they deserve.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-10 01:02 PM
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12. It certainly "worked" for Al Queda and the radical Muslims.
Those who want a real religious war where all Muslims, not just fanatics, are the bogeymen.
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