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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 06:56 PM
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It appears that the government gave the withdrawal story to NBC (MSNBC).
CNN isn't covering it. It's also pretty clear that MSNBC knew this was coming. They have all their star personalities covering it including Maddow in Iraq. Do you consider it ethical for the government to give access to one network and not others? Is it the cost of balancing access with security? What do you think? Saying "Bush gave it to Fox" is not an answer.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 06:59 PM
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1. MSNBC and NBC are the only networks that gave a damn about Iraq for years
I think they deserve it for that reason alone.
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JonLP24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 09:04 PM
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32. Not necessarily
NBC management lowered Ashleigh Banfield's profile for criticizing the media's coverage of the Iraq war at a speech given at a University. Here is what she says about it.

Yet they wouldnt let me leave. I begged for seventeen months to be let out of my contract. If they had no use for me, lets just part ways amicably no need for payouts, just a clean break. And Neal wouldnt allow it. I dont know what his rationale was perhaps he thought I would take what I felt was a very strong brand, and others felt was a very strong brand, to another network and make a success of it. Maybe thats why he chose to keep me in a warehouse. I will never forgive him for his cruelty and the manner in which he decided to dispose of me.
http://mofflymedia.com/Moffly-Publications/New-Canaan-D...

They also fired Donahue because he was critical of the decision to go to war leading up to it. However to be fair this was before it was political popular to be against it.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 06:59 PM
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2. I was wondering what was going on
Are the rest of them just trying to ignore it because it was a promise kept. Or did the military only allow MSNBC. My guess is on the former.

They want to let this moment pass quietly because it would show a positive thing about Obama and they are in morning over the loss this will be for the military supplier complex.

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Parker CA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 07:02 PM
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7. Maddow made it sound as if NBC/MSNBC were the only outlets given permission to join the final convoy
leaving Iraq.

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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 07:00 PM
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3. I don't believe any network was denied access
I think CNN made a bad business decision by not covering it. I'm surprised that Fox isn't using the withdrawal of troops as a club to beat Obama about the head and shoulders and brand him as a Muslim loving foreign born socialist.
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Pab Sungenis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 07:01 PM
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4. In any military operation, you must limit access to information.
The White House knew it couldn't trust Fox to sit on it for the week or more it took to get this underway, since by letting it slip they could embarrass the President or even jeopardize the operation. They also might have had doubts about CNN. By letting very few, select MSNBC reporters know what was going on, they could get it covered safely.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 07:01 PM
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5. They had folks on the ground
other networks did not.
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Uzybone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 07:06 PM
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8. thats the bottom line
CNN has barely covered this war since Michael Ware left Iraq.
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KILL THE WISE ONE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 07:01 PM
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6. patch up relations with the professional left ?
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 08:32 PM
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30. Or
Cynically uses Rachel and Keith's coverage to bash the left when we stop and look a little deeper and say WTF.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 07:14 PM
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9. Or...
Richard Engel, who is/was NBC's embed got the story first. While I'm sure our government is exceedingly glad to spread this news, I don't think the fact that NBC got the story first is some nefarious plan. Had one of the other embedded networks been first we would have seen them running instead of NBC.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 07:16 PM
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10. you mean... the professional left. i gasp, i tell you. nt
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 07:18 PM
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11. I applaud the administration for that actually.
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 07:18 PM
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12. And you know for a fact that the government gave them the story? or is this more
speculation?
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Monique1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 07:23 PM
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14. Bottom line is
everyone would be happy if FOX noise machine had the exclusive on this - sure - our combat soldiers probably would be dead leaving.

Shows who the WH trusts and I applaud them.
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 07:19 PM
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13. Gotta sell fake peace to the Professional Left or we'll keep screaming to shut down the Pentagon
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Monique1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 07:26 PM
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17. I guess it is wrong for me or others to be happy
I will go into depression tonight until the day I die. That is what you want. Can't be happy or have hope.
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 07:44 PM
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23. Why be depressed? Celebrate another day of living.
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rufus dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 07:24 PM
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15. obviously a calculated decision
and it will obviously create some blowback. So it looks like a big media fight with the WH is a planned event.
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AsahinaKimi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 07:26 PM
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16. I am glad FOX is not covering this
Can you imagine the crap spewed?
:puke:
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GreatCaesarsGhost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 07:26 PM
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18. Aren't other networks free to use NBC footage as pool reporting?
they just don't seem interested.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 07:29 PM
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19. How do we know the other networks
decided it wasn't a big enough story to invest the same effort into it?
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Political Tiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 07:30 PM
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20. You seriously think the other networks don't have reporters in Iraq?
I see no proof that some sort of exclusive deal was made with NBC or MSNBC, and until there is some proof of some secret deal it's irresponsible to suggest otherwise.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 07:43 PM
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22. No they did not
that costs a lot of money, and people have cut on foreign bureaus for the last 25 years.

Hell, FOX had to learn how to do this for this war, at the beginning, and promptly forgot it.
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Political Tiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 08:57 PM
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31. Actually, they do. Rachel Maddow just mentioned it
and explained why MSNBC is on top of this story.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
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Political Tiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 07:30 PM
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21. Dupe. n/t
Edited on Wed Aug-18-10 07:30 PM by Political Tiger
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EC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 08:06 PM
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24. None of the other networks have the capability to do it
they don't have the right equipment for moving shots...


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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 08:07 PM
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25. That was an interesting bit about the Bloom Mobile. n/t
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EC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 08:21 PM
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28. Yes, it was... n/t
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Safetykitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 08:07 PM
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26. Who is the celebrity presenter?
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 08:11 PM
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27. They just explained it
They have technical capabilities that no other news service has - a satellite truck with the satellite afixed to a gyroscope, so they can b'cast on the move where others need a stationary satellite.

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Poboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 08:28 PM
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29. I have problems with this arrangement, but
I must say, the coverage has been very objective.

On principle, this is exclusive is concerning.
I am very impressed however and wanted to commend the people at MSNBC on not being used for propaganda purposes.
The crew is doing a very good job at explaining the reality.


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