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maryf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 10:05 AM
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Obama's Expanding Covert Wars Jeremy Scahill in "the Nation" June 4th
I searched and didn't see a prior post of this, very worthwhile reading:

Obama's Expanding Covert Wars
Jeremy Scahill
June 4, 2010


The Washington Post is reporting that the Obama administration has substantially expanded the role of US special operations forces across the globe as part of what the paper calls Washington's "secret war" against al Qaeda and other radical organizations. Obama, according to the paper, has increased the presence of special forces from 60 countries to 75 countries. US Special Forces, the paper reports, have about 4,000 people in countries besides Iraq and Afghanistan. "The Special Operations capabilities requested by the White House go beyond unilateral strikes and include the training of local counterterrorism forces and joint operations with them," according to the Post. "Plans exist for preemptive or retaliatory strikes in numerous places around the world, meant to be put into action when a plot has been identified, or after an attack linked to a specific group."

The expansion of special forces includes both traditional special forces, often used in training missions, and those known for carrying out covert and lethal, "direct actions." The Nation has learned from well-placed special operations sources that among the countries where elite special forces teams working for the Joint Special Operations Command have been deployed under the Obama administration are: Iran, Georgia, Ukraine, Bolivia, Paraguay, Ecuador, Peru, Yemen, Pakistan (including in Balochistan) and the Philippines. These teams have also at times deployed in Turkey, Belgium, France and Spain. JSOC has also supported US Drug Enforcement Agency operations in Colombia and Mexico. The frontline for these forces at the moment, sources say, are Yemen and Somalia. "In both those places, there are ongoing unilateral actions," said a special operations source. "JSOC does a lot in Pakistan too." Additionally, these US special forces at times work alongside other nations' special operations forces in conducting missions in their home countries. A US special operations source described one such action where US forces teamed up with Georgian forces hunting Chechen rebels.

One senior military official told The Washington Post that the Obama administration has given the green light for "things that the previous administration did not." Special operations commanders, the paper reports, have more direct access to the White House than they did under Bush. "We have a lot more access," a military official told the paper. "They are talking publicly much less but they are acting more. They are willing to get aggressive much more quickly."

<snip> Really read the whole thing folks!!

While some of the special forces missions are centered around training of allied forces, often that line is blurred. In some cases, "training" is used as a cover for unilateral, direct action. "It's often done under the auspices of training so that they can go anywhere. It's brilliant. It is essentially what we did in the 60s," says a special forces source. "Remember the 'training mission' in Vietnam? That's how it morphs."


http://www.thenation.com/blog/obamas-expanding-cov...
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Liberation Angel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 10:10 AM
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1. The power of life and death can be Necrophilic
Edited on Wed Aug-04-10 10:13 AM by Liberation Angel
The ability to kill with impunity or relative impunity can really warp one's powers of discernment. One begins to love this power to kill. It is an aphrodisiac of sorts.

Especially when one has determined for "pragmatic" reasons that death, murder, sacrifice of others (civilians and soldiers/grunts) and assassination is acceptable for the goals one sets.

It perverts the mind which is why

I always say

Nonviolence and Love is the only answer and only hope.

These wars only prolong the wars and that is what the BFEE wants so Obama is playing a losing game when he lets this happen.

Extremely sad.

Pitiful even.

and horrible
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maryf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 10:13 AM
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3. Wow
strong post, thanks, pitiful, horrible, amen.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 10:12 AM
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2. another reason
to vote for a primary challenger
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maryf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 10:16 AM
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4. But please tell me fh
Who is not a corporatist? Who will not continue our exponentially closer tread toward fascism?? The system is broken, throw it away, I think.


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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 10:22 AM
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5. well, how do we just throw a broken system away
I am not sure it is completely broken and whether the situation looks dire we must try to make change happen ourselves.
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maryf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 10:28 AM
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6. It'll take some doing
and it's good to keep talking and thinking of many ways... thanks for doing that!
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 11:01 AM
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13. You're not sure it is completely broken -
really? How many people starve in the street before we are "sure"? I don't think I am exaggerating, given that unemployment (vis a via the republicans) and social security (vis a via the dems) are now both on the chopping block.

As to making "changes ourselves" - yes that is definitely what we need. Changes in the form of massive sit-ins, protests, strikes. That is what it is going to take to make real change. It is the only thing that has ever worked historically. Voting is not enough.
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Winterblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 10:33 AM
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9. Replaced with what?
If you do not like the Democratic process what would you suggest would be better?
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maryf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 10:46 AM
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11. A democratic process would be a start, actually
When the corporate rulers have their money and power in everything, do the people really have a say? do we really have a democratic process here? It would be nice if we did...

I think this is a discussion that needs to be had! Not sure what the system should look like, but it needs to be created by the majority of the people, not by the upper 2% who own almost everything...
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 11:00 AM
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12. We need a society and governance that is established to
benefit ALL people equally. The democratic process is just a method - it can work, and maybe has at times. But the idea is equality of all citizens - the method of achieving that is open for discussion. Democracy would be good, if we actually had one...
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maryf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 01:09 PM
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19. +100
:hi:
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 01:20 PM
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21. a democratic process that's not rigged from beginning to end?
eom
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 07:14 PM
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27. Who will be allowed to win the primary? Agreed, the system is broken. nt
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maryf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 07:42 PM
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28. As it stands?
whoever will carry on the approved agenda...
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 10:15 PM
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30. Fraid so.
Until we get rid of corporate run elections (machines and money and media) we are stuck with corporate "candidates".
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maryf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 07:19 AM
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31. Maybe we should go to the real source
and get rid of private corporations all together?
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 08:25 AM
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34. Yes ma'am!
:applause:
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maryf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 09:15 AM
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35. thanks!
:fistbump:
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 10:01 AM
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37. We need to pull a lot of charters and rewrite the rules, that's for sure.
Corporations used to be required to provide a use to the community. Their charters got pulled if they didn't. And if they were criminal their charters got pulled and their principals got jailed.

We should bring that back.
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maryf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 10:37 AM
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38. kind of difficult in a global market place...
and communities that try to keep corporations in their town... small local hegemonies are on the way out, and have been for a while...would be preferable though...best to get rid of capitalism altogether in my opinion...
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maryf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 10:29 AM
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7. Unreccers at work
Last I saw it was at 4, must have hit the greatest...seems to be a death knoll at times...
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 11:04 AM
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15. There are those who believe that voting is the end all,
and they are so focused on winning that we can't get into discussions of substance with them. Fortunately I believe they are the "sensible" minority on this site. I do believe there are many on here who see the deeper problems and want to discuss how to get to a better future (or even have a future given the amount of environmental damage capitalism is doing...)
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maryf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 11:21 AM
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17. Discussion is the operative word!
and it's a shame that some don't want to engage...scared? blind? or a cooperative?

Are we ready to talk? I think so! :hi:
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 10:31 AM
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8. Nobel Peace Prize
:silly:
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maryf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 10:37 AM
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10. Doublespeak in hyperdrive! nt
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 11:04 AM
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14. How dare Scahill scrutinize our President! It was only OK when he was focusing on bush. n/t
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 11:08 AM
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16. I just watched Men Who Stare At Goats
wouldn't be surprised if something like that was being used in this expansion.

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maryf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 11:28 AM
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18. I wouldn't be surprised by too much...
I met a man in late 79, when I was a dirt poor bartender, who said he was a marine in a psi ops group...really seemed legit and not real happy; I was a safe person to vent to I guess...the military industrial complex will try anything to maintain their holds...
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maryf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 01:16 PM
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20. Case in point: Costa Rica
Edited on Wed Aug-04-10 01:17 PM by maryf
further updates welcome...

http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0711/anger-costa-rica-deal-invite-us-warships/

Anger in Costa Rica over deal to ‘invite’ 46 US warships

By Daniel Tencer
Sunday, July 11th, 2010 -- 3:40 pm

Anger in Costa Rica over deal to invite 46 US warships

Costa Ricans suspect 'ulterior motive' in permitting large numbers of US troops

Opposition leaders in Costa Rica are up in arms over an agreement between the country and the United States that reportedly allows 46 US warships and 7,000 US Marines to enter the country as part of an anti-drug effort.

According to several Costa Rican news sources, the government there signed an agreement with the US last week to extend an 11-year-old cooperative program aimed at eradicating the maritime drug trade.

But opponents say this year's deal differs from previous ones in that it allows US warships to enter the country. Previously, opponents say, only US Coast Guard vessels were allowed to enter Costa Rican territory. The new agreement expires on December 31 of this year.

A committee of the People's Movement political party said the deal turns Costa Rica into a "US protectorate" and brings the country into "a new phase of military occupation," according to the Costa Rican newspaper El Pais.


need I say it again? more at link, read it all!! :)
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 02:51 PM
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22. He is just doing what he campaigned on.
You weren't paying attention!
This is just another Promise Kept.
It will be added to the "Mission Accomplished" list today!
:party:
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 03:07 PM
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24. What don't you "get" about what he never promised he promised
he'd do? When he promised he didn't promise, it was clear as spam gravy that he meant every word that he didn't say! You guys just want a pony!

:rofl:
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 03:26 PM
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25. AND, he doesn't have a Magic Wand!
He can't just wave a Magic Wand and turn "Combat Troops" into "Non-Combat Troops".
.
.
.
.
WHAT?
He DID?
.
.
.
My bad.
He DOES have a Magic Wand.
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maryf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 04:40 PM
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26. Remember what you learned about magic...
Its all an illusion, sleight of hand, and distraction...hypnosis plays in there too... :)
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 07:40 AM
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33. Ouch. Most apt.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 02:53 PM
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23. War is Peace-NOT!!! nt
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 07:44 PM
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29. sending in a few James Bonds
well at least 50,000 troops won't be needed
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maryf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 07:21 AM
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32. at least not until
we've managed to preemptively start another necessary military engagement!
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 09:31 AM
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36. USA doing what it does best ...sticking their nose in other countries.
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maryf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 10:39 AM
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39. all for non altruistic reasons...
like protecting the interests of corporations...
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