What is Socialism?

[marmar]

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Posted by rmontero at 8:21 am
July 28, 2010

What is Socialism
Posted by rmontero on @ 8:21 am


Some people would say its government control over the economy, or state ownership, others would say it’s the welfare state or government regulation, but these definitions generally come from people that do not identify as socialists. So we have to go to the source, what do socialists say socialism means. Eugene Debs was probably the most well known socialist in American history, he ran for president from Prison (he was put away for speaking out against WWI) and received 6% of the vote in 1920 (in the middle of the first red scare), and this is his definition of the goals of socialism. “The working class must get rid of the whole brood of masters and exploiters, and put themselves in possession and control of the means of production, that they may have steady employment without consulting a capitalist employer, large or small, and that they may get the wealth their labor produces, all of it, and enjoy with their families the fruits of their industry in comfortable and happy homes, abundant and wholesome food, proper clothing and all other things necessary to “life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.”

So what does that mean? Well he went a little bit further about the choice of Capitalism and Socialism by saying “It is simply a question of capitalism or socialism, of despotism or democracy.” So to Eugene and other Socialists, putting the economy in the hands of the people is not just a question of sound economics it’s a question of democracy or despotism, how so? As we’ve seen in the last couple of years public policy is extremely susceptible to big business pressure, the public option had overwhelming support, yet somehow it was politically difficult for the government, and we all know it was from the insurance companies had something with more power than public pressure, money. Right now the insurance companies are entirely driven by profit, which means take as much money from you and give you as little care, and they have a stranglehold on the government because of their money. A public option however would be different, it would be run by the government, which means it would be run by the electorate, to the electorate the government health care’s profit isn’t the biggest concern, its the efficiency and quality of the healthcare, . Now imagine if the Oil companies were put under public control, how would energy policy be run, right now its for short term profits with out thinking about the effects on the environment, or even what’s best for the consumer (just what will get the most money out of the consumer), if it was controlled democratically, then the concerns of people would necessarily be concerns of the industry. If you take the major industries and resources and put them in public control then its not the big corporations that now control those industries and resources that will be able to buy public policy, it will be the public.

What about the Free Market? Isn’t the free market kind of a democracy? You vote with your cash? In a way, it is. Here’s the problem More than 70% of the wealth of the United States is controlled by the top 10% of the country, the bottom 50 % of the country control only 2.5% of the nations wealth, and the top 1% control 33.8% of the wealth, this isn’t getting better its getting worse. Usually these statistics are used just to show wealth disparity, look at these statistics from the viewpoint of political power, its more than just wealth disparity, it’s a lack of democracy. When it comes to the market, there is no Free Market, at least for the bottom 90% of Americans, its a market controlled by the rich, they have over 70% of the vote, so they control the market, your money is your vote, if you don’t have a significant amount of disposable wealth, you have no vote. ..............(more)

The complete piece is at: http://blogs.alternet.org/rmontero/2010/07/28/what-is-socialism/

[David__77]

1. Socialism is a road of transition to a better society.

It's not a clearly-defined thing by any means. "Society" by its very nature, is not merely an agglomeration of individuals; rather, it is a social, collectively-determined entity. Socialism begins to better address the collective and individual interests at the same time.

[RC]

2. Socialism is the base upon which civilization is built.

Try to imagine a civilization without any socialism.

[readmoreoften]

3. So far civilizations have been built on corvee labor, slavery, and capitalist exploitation.

This is a civilization without any socialism. Sure there are Keynesian "fixes" to capitalism, but that is not workers' power over the bosses, bankers, and stockbrokers who don't work and suck the life out of us.

[socialist_n_TN]

4. Socialism, to me, is the government

REPRESENTING the people and having control over the means of production. That wouldn't necessarily mean that small businesses and sole proprietors would be CONTROLLED by government in every aspect of their enterprises (why would an entity dealing in TRILLIONS of dollars worry about a 20k sole proprietor?), but it would mean that they would have to obey certain laws for the benefit, health, and safety of their workers. Bigger companies would be subject to more regs and the BIGGEST companies would be controlled by the government FOR THE BENEFIT OF ALL OF THE PEOPLE OF THE COUNTRY. This would be ESPECIALLY true of companies that ARE there for the service of the general population like utilities, energy, defense, health care, etc.

My socialist government would also facilitate and support worker ownership of production whenever and wherever appropriate, even if it means those worker owned co-ops compete DIRECTLY with capitalist enterprises.

I could go on, but this is probably enough for now. :)

[Starry Messenger]

5. Socialism is anti-capitalism, good for humans and other living things

Hopefully a thing we will see before capitalism sucks all the marrow out of this world.

[cascadiance]

6. No matter how much you yell, the right wing Beck drones will yell that Hitler is a socialist!

And that believing in socialism is believing in what he was about!

They've been propagandized pretty heavily here!

It's going to be a tough job getting some of these idiots re-edumacated, if its even possible to do at all!

It amazes me how in just one year or so suddenly fascism is a "synonym" for socialism according to these brainless drones!

[Enthusiast]

8. It wasn't done in a year.

For many years Limbaugh has been telling his followers that the Nazi Party was a left wing movement. Of course this is not historically accurate. But that never stopped a little misinformation campaign.

[Naturyl]

7. Socialism is conscience.

Nothing more, nothing less.

[Greyhound]

9. Exactly. The "socialism is evil" folks unfailingly frame Socialism as government ownership

as opposed to "private" ownership. They can't see any alternatives to authoritarian dominance.

You would think that after 30, 40 years of everybody from government to business pleading for new ideas (How man euphemisms have they invented for 'a different way'?), they would be more interested in trying some of them.
:kick: & R

[SmileyRose]

10. It's a church potluck dinner.

Everyone brings their best to the party and we all share. Someone is going to bring a 12 layer lasagna that everyone wants and bottoms out fast. Someone else is going to bring that green jello with celery thing that eventually ends up in the trash.