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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-24-10 10:02 AM
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Van Jones To Netroots: Quit Beating Up On Obama
Las Vegas -- Former White House green jobs "czar" Van Jones told progressive activists and bloggers today that, rather than bash President Obama for not changing the country as fast as they'd thought, they should maintain hope and help him with his agenda.

"I can't stand it. President Obama volunteered to be the captain of the Titanic after it hit the iceberg," Jones said at Netroots Nation while being interviewed by journalist Ari Melber of The Nation. (Follow our live coverage here.)

Jones, who resigned last year after conservatives targeted him as an extreme leftist, refrained from any Obama-slamming of his own. Speaking to a large second-day crowd, Jones reminded the group that he quit and wasn't pushed out. "I resigned. I did not want to be the banana peel that the president of the United States slipped on trying to win on health care," Jones said.

He cautioned bloggers from despairing and going after Obama. "This is harder than it looks. Having spent six months in the White House, it's a totally different experience when you're sitting there and the missiles are coming over the horizon at you," he said.

While some expected Jones, now with the Center for American Progress, to go after the administration for failing to get climate change done this year, he said he thinks it still can be done.

Jones said he agrees with Sen. John Kerry, who said today that his bill has a chance in the lame-duck session after the midterm election. "He is right that thing this is not over.
... There are many things that can change the math," Jones said. He said that "red state America is struggling because of our stupid energy policy" and that if the government doesn't act, the U.S. will go from an oil economy from Middle East to a clean energy economy imported from Asia, "skipping the jobs" in between.

Jones said that while, "most of us feel lost and lonely," the netroots should soldier on.

"If you keep the hope alive, change is still possible," Jones said in his opening speech. Jones said the group can't allow themselves to "blow your own candle out. We have to keep hope alive."

He said progressives "did not lay down" during the 8 years of the Bush administration and shouldn't "expect other people to lay down for you" just because Obama's election was celebrated as a breakthrough.

"We really believed we'd gotten to some sort of finish line. In fact all we'd done was gotten to a starting line," he said.

Jones said the netroots need to realize they are up against an "epic" force with the conservative media movement, which is trying to "bury everything you fought for everything you believe in," and comparing it to the Lord of the Rings. "These are orcs, they are here, and they are coming for you," he said.

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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-24-10 10:06 AM
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1. '...captain of the Titanic...'
"I can't stand it. President Obama volunteered to be the captain of the Titanic after it hit the iceberg," Jones said at Netroots Nation while being interviewed by journalist Ari Melber of The Nation.

What an apt metaphor for President Obama's situation.

K&R.

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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-24-10 10:08 AM
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2. I loved the Orcs metaphor too.
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chillspike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-24-10 10:20 AM
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3. See that?
I don't want to stop anyone from having their own beliefs about the Obama admin but here is someone who was on the inside and, even though he was let go by the Obama admin, he is still patient and positive about it.

i mean, it's us or the republicans and we know we CANNOT allow the republicans to get control.

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jaxx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-24-10 10:22 AM
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4. I wonder if anyone will listen to him.
Van Jones made a whole lot of sense in that speech. He seems to have taken the thrown under the bus propaganda and called it a lie. The time is still now, it's easy to quit and hard to get things done, but get things done they have. Bravo!
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katandmoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-24-10 10:38 AM
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5. Yes, warn the netroots about Fox, Mr. Jones -- they obviously need you to clue them in.
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-24-10 10:51 AM
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6. Should Fox go unmentioned at Netroots Nation? Do you
think Van Jones will be the only speaker with that warning?
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katandmoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-24-10 01:32 PM
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14. I have no idea if he is and I don't see how the question is even relevant.
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alarimer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-24-10 10:56 AM
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7. Why is he defending the cowards who threw him under the bus?
The blogosphere is only trying to hold Obama's feet to the fire and keep hi fucking promises. Don't give me any bullshit about it being "so much harder" that we can know. It's hard if you don't fucking stand up for anything. Most Presidents do a little arm-twisting to get what they want. Obama has simply stood back and not fought for a single fucking thing he promised. He gave away the store on health care; he did not fight for strong financial reform. He has appointed rich Wall Street fucks to every conceivable post, while not supported some of the others that he appointed (Dawn Johnsen) in their fight for confirmation.

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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-24-10 10:59 AM
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8. Well, Van Jones was there and you weren't . I think I'll choose
to believe him.
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JoeyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-24-10 07:20 PM
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18. It's my argument from authority
and damnit I'm not going to back down no matter what you say!
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-24-10 11:02 AM
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9. He's basically saying: Not in my m'fckin name! If you want to bash Obama,
keep his name out of it. Most of the people bringing up his name don't give a shit about him, Sherrod, etc.
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-24-10 07:53 PM
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19. Nailed it.
Most of the people bringing up his name don't give a shit about him, Sherrod, etc.

And Jones and Mrs. Sherrod are both smart enough to know it too.
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-24-10 11:36 AM
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10. b/c it's the politically practical thing to do for someone who works in politics.
Edited on Sat Jul-24-10 11:37 AM by nashville_brook
burning bridges being bad, and all that.
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Karmadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-24-10 11:40 AM
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12. Stop making sense or else.
nt
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-24-10 03:22 PM
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16. i know -- i'm totally asking for it.
:evilgrin:
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-24-10 11:39 AM
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11. What do you mean by arm twisting, and how do you know Obama hasn't done it?
as for the difficulties of the job, they are, like most jobs, much more than the outside observer ever thinks they are. Think of your own job. I'm sure I'd think I could easily do it. Since I don't know what it involves.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-24-10 12:27 PM
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13. 9-11 truthers deserve to be fired.
Fuck 'em.

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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-24-10 02:50 PM
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15. gratuitous to Van Jones: No
My critical eye doesn't go blind just because of the party affiliation of the occupant of the White House. War is still an atrocity, incarceration without charge, counsel or trial is still a travesty, and torture is still a crime against humanity. I can not, I will not trim my standards to fit this year's fashion.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-24-10 06:10 PM
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17. Help him with his pro-corporate-over-the-people agenda? FUCK THAT.
Not gonna happen.

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