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davidswanson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-10 08:44 PM
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Replace Rangel With Tasini Right Now
Well this is helpful. The best candidate for Congress I know of, Jonathan Tasini, is now running against an incumbent, Charlie Rangel, who is going to be put on trial in Congress for all sorts of alleged corruption.

According to the Christian Science Monitor, "the allegations range from misuse of rent-controlled apartments in New York City and failure to disclose income from a villa in the Dominican Republic to reports that he exchanged official favors – a tax loophole for oil driller Nabors Industries Ltd. – in exchange for a $1 million gift to the Charles Rangel Center at City College of New York." The Associated Press reports that the detailed charges will be released next Thursday, and "sanctions can range from a damaging committee report to censure by the House and even expulsion, a punishment reserved for only the most egregious violations."

Of course, this is all petty tomfoolery in comparison with what Rangel and most members of Congress spend their days doing, funding illegal wars, funneling our money to Wall Street, promoting corporate needs over human needs, and engaging in overlooking instead of oversight. But massive crimes, no matter how many people they kill, are just not as interesting as petty personal ones. If sex can be found anywhere in these new charges, Rangel's career of misrepresentation will be ended for sure (after all, he's not a Republican). Or perhaps clips of him acting scared, obnoxious, arrogant, and a touch senile will do the trick. Here's one from Thursday on CBS.

Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics (CREW) and others familiar with the charges are calling for Rangel to resign. Someone else calling for him to resign, or at least to abandon his reelection bid, is Jonathan Tasini, who said on Thursday:

"I am calling today on Rep. Rangel to announce immediately that he will not be a candidate for re-election to the 15th Congressional District in New York in light of the findings of the House ethics committee that Rep. Rangel violated ethics rules. For the first time in eight years, the House ethics committee has taken a very serious step forward in ethics investigations, calling for the appointment of a special subcommittee to rule on the findings -- a step last taken when former Rep. James Traficant was convicted of taking bribes.

"While Rep. Rangel still should be accorded the right to defend himself before a trial of a special subcommittee, the threat to the future of the Democratic Party is today. Rep. Rangel will be, as I argued when I announced my candidacy for the 15th Congressional District, the face of Washington corruption in Republican advertising and campaigns across the nation. Rep. Rangel will, without a doubt, cost the Democratic Party seats in the November election, if he is the nominee of the party.

"By announcing that he will not stand for re-election, Rep. Rangel will allow the people of the 15th Congressional District to choose a new Congressman who will be able to spend 100 percent of his or her time defending the interests of the people, not his own political career. Our party must be clear -- we must not allow even the hint of impropriety to be part of our ranks. The people, the voters, are sick and tired of dysfunction. They are fed up with corruption -- real and moral. They want leaders who they can trust."


Now, I think Tasini is wrong about not allowing even a hint of corruption to be tolerated. The next victim of a Breitbart video should be immediately promoted and honored, rather than attacked and fired, for example. The facts will most likely end up fitting that response. But Rangel's corruption is out in the open. He does not serve the people of Harlem, New York City, New York State, or this country, or the world. He serves the military industrial complex, his campaign "contributors" and the demands of Washington insiders and lobbyists.

Normally, replacing him would not change that in the slightest. But we're talking about replacing him with Jonathan Tasini. I know Jonathan and have for years. He's an activist and an organizer. He's sworn not to spend a dime on aggressive wars and to work to end them. He's committed to defending Social Security against all attacks. If he's elected to Congress, you'll see him organizing on Capitol Hill for peace, justice, civil rights, and the interests of the constituents so abused, neglected, and taken for granted by Rangel.

I don't know if Rangel will ruin the chances of a Democrat running in New Mexico or Oregon, but he certainly won't help. I doubt we can pressure him to resign or pressure Pelosi to pressure him to resign. But he is, and already was, in serious danger of losing his primary, and we can take advantage of the current story, which may lead to his resignation or expulsion, to build national support for a candidate already surging in New York's 15th district, a progressive whom national advocates for democratic governance ought to be rallying around anyway: Jonathan Tasini.

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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-10 08:50 PM
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1. Is that even possible or legal? I'm not adverse to it if so, given what
I've read about Rangel. He got caught and he's most likely going down.
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-10 08:50 PM
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2. How many republicans have you heard calling for John Ensign to resign?
Or David Vitter?

When I hear one I'll consider condemning Charlie Rangel.

This kind of shit is why we lose elections.

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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-10 08:54 PM
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3. No, as a NY'er, I don't care for Tasini.
According to the emails I've received from his campaign, he would have voted "no" on HCR. I really don't want to vote another pain in the ass into office. There's a way to be constructive with your criticism of Democratic intiatives (Sanders, Wyden) and actually contribute constructively to the effort, or the way to be a pain in the ass who votes with the Republicans, but claims it's based on "principle." No thanks.
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-10 08:57 PM
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5. Why shouldn't he have voted 'no' on HCR?
Edited on Thu Jul-22-10 08:59 PM by brentspeak
Thanks to HCR, the American people are now more enslaved than ever before to the private insurance health racket. And to add injury to injury, our tax dollars now = Blue Cross/Blue Shield/Wellpoint/Aetna execs' dollars. The chances of an affordable national health care system are now permanently 'nil' thanks to the so-called health care "reform" law.

No thanks to HCR. :thumbsdown:
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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-10 08:59 PM
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6. I've heard your "enslavement" propaganda over and over.
I'll take my nephews having health insurance now, in spite of preconditions; a new brother-in-law deciding to go to med school because of loan forgiveness and Sanders' billions in funding for new community health centers across the nation; and my Mom's improved options in Medicare over that tired Dr. Zhivago meme any day.

Tasini would not get my vote.
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-10 09:01 PM
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7. Uh, who would get your vote?
Edited on Thu Jul-22-10 09:05 PM by brentspeak
And I haven't used the word "enslavement" nor used "propaganda" when discussing HCR here before (it's called "having an opinion"). Find some links to back up your claims concerning me, or else go chasing after someone else.

Sounds like you had some ready-made smear on your fingers for anyone who dared to criticize HCR.
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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-10 09:10 PM
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9. I really like the sound of Vincent Morgan.


http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/17/nyregion/17morgan.html

A 40-year-old challenger wages a grass-roots Democratic primary campaign against a popular Harlem congressman who has been entrenched for decades and for whom he once worked. The upstart says the incumbent, who has been dogged by a Congressional ethics investigation, is “still living in the realm of his past accomplishments” and that distractions have left the 15th District “unrepresented.”




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D-Lee Donating Member (457 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-24-10 07:32 AM
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23. That candidate doesn't wash ... not from Harlem, no community efforts
Edited on Sat Jul-24-10 07:33 AM by D-Lee
http://www.jonathantasini.com/about-jonathan

You might like this fellow but nothing recommends him for this particular post.

There are a lot of fine Harlem politicians available: http://www.observer.com/2010/politics/tasini-takes-rangelm-blames-him-harlem-gentrifcation

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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-10 09:17 PM
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10. Fair enough - I'll change that to - I've heard *this* tired enslavement junk before. nt
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Raineyb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-24-10 09:07 AM
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24. So you expect representatives to just lie down and vote for any old piece of
crap without any regard as to whether or not they think it's the best for the country?

Your attitude is exactly why NOTHING will ever get fixed in this country.

History doesn't get changed if we just go along to get along it's the pains in the ass that change things.

THIS New Yorker thinks you're dead wrong.
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-10 08:55 PM
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4. Tasini would be a great improvement. Would the Democratic establishment back him?
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davidswanson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-10 09:06 PM
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8. yes he would
gotta doubt it

but who have they got to choose from who doesn't have corruption scandals?
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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-10 10:04 PM
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14. Why should they, when he does not back them?
Yes, I've seen Tasini's website and all -- far, far left.

He should actually be running as a Green or Nader-ite -- but he's trying to get the Democratic vote, WHILE AT THE SAME TIME, tearing down Democratic initiatives... if you couldn't tell, I don't like him at all.
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-10 12:06 AM
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18. Maybe because he is a Democrat
Obama doesn't support the public option or card check or renegotiating NAFTA or usury laws -- things that are Democratic goals. And yet, Tasini supports all those things. Will you say that Obama should be part of some other party?
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Raineyb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-24-10 09:09 AM
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25. No it wouldn't
The Democratic establishment is really quite clubby and if they don't back you you're SOL.

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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-10 09:29 PM
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11. Would love to see Tasini
take Rangle's seat. He is a fighter---for us.
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tomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-10 09:59 PM
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12. i send him money. best choice i've ever had for any office in new york...
....since 1970.

rangel will not get my vote.
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Liberty Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-10 09:59 PM
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13. Tasini helped me and thousands of writers,when he was head of National Writers Union.
I had a nightmare experience with a major publisher ripping off freelancers' works, and was told by the newspaper I could no longer writer for them if I wouldn't sign over retroactive rights to 500 articles they'd stolen -- free.

I called Tasini, who at the time had his own case, Tasini vs. NY Times, working its way through the courts on appeal. (He later won in the US Supreme Court, establishing clear precedent.)

Tasini flew to our city to meet with me and other writers for the paper, then helped us get a top class action lawyer. NWU's parent union, the UAW, footed the bill for our lawyer's expenses, the only way I could ever have afforded to be a named plaintiff in what become a landmark class action suit. It's still being battled out in the courts a decade later, but I will always be grateful to Jonathan for fighting for us.
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Kat45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-10 11:10 PM
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16. Did he eventually win that case?
I was in the NWU back then as well. I thought the Boston Globe (owned by the Times) was making writers sign that onerous contract (for retroactive rights in all media including those not yet invented) before being able to write for them. IIRC, many long-time Globe freelancers stopped writing for them because of that. It was also a large part of the reason I gave up on writing.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-10 10:21 PM
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15. I'm just wondering why his predecessor on the
"Ways and Means Committee", Bill Thomas, who was once my Congressman wasn't subjected to the same scrutiny and pressure for his corruption, which was pretty legendary. Why is Charlie subjected to this during his time and that other turkey wasn't during his whole time in Congress where he made the most egregious deals for the Republicans, deals that are affecting us today? Also, his personal life and business dealings were also pretty sleazy all the while he was Chairman of the "Ways and Means Committee."
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-10 11:11 PM
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17. Didn't he try to run against Hillary Clinton in '06?
:rofl:
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LatteLibertine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-10 12:17 AM
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19. This isn't going to help us
come November. Ugh, I was hoping the charges were bogus.
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JanusAscending Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-10 12:41 PM
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20. Here we go again!
Rushing to judgment before all the facts are in! You want to do to Charlie what Fox almost succeeded in doing to Shirley??? Give it a rest!
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ColesCountyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-10 04:48 PM
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21. Let me get a rope and find a cottonwood tree.
Why let a trial, facts or any of that silly procedural nonsense get in the way of a good, swift hanging?

:eyes:
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-10 04:53 PM
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22. Tasini is not likely going to win over Harlem with that campaign.
Edited on Fri Jul-23-10 04:53 PM by BurtWorm
This is my Congressional District we're talking about. I will probably vote for Tasini in the primary, but if Rangel wins, I'm voting for Rangel.

http://www.jonathantasini.com/content/15th-congressional-district

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