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KansasVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 02:55 PM
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FOX News and the MSM did not fire Sherrod.....the Administration did!!!
I hate Fox News. I hate a lot of the MSM. But the great thing about them is that they do not hire and fire people that work for this administration.

This administration is the only person responsible for this firing. The MSM, and especially Fox News will always SUCK. And there is nothing we can do about that issue.

What we need is people spending more than 2 damn hours investigating things before they start reacting.

Hell, I have fired people before, for very low level positions, and I know we spend a lot more time discussing it than the Administration did on Sherrod.








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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 02:56 PM
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1. And an unrec....
nt
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KansasVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 02:57 PM
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3. And too cowardly to explain why!
Edited on Wed Jul-21-10 02:57 PM by KansasVoter
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 03:02 PM
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You know why. I wouldn't have even addressed that post.
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spiritual_gunfighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-10 07:23 AM
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85. I reced if for ya
I guess they are just following the cowardly lead of this administration.
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 03:04 PM
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23. Thank you for reminding me to recommend this thread.
Much appreciated.
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KansasVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 03:06 PM
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32. Thanks!!
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 03:08 PM
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33. same here
Thanks
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 03:18 PM
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39. Thanks from me too!
Weird how so many DUers are in agreement with Fucks Gnus these days... curious.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-10 12:47 AM
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-10 01:29 AM
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79. I have read and written several "that that" sentences,
but I think this is the first time I have read a "was was" sentence.

"Unless your OP about not knowing who Sherrod was was actually just a lie?"

Fun sentence.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-10 01:50 AM
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82. I know, but I couldn't think of a better way to reword it.
I spent minutes trying to think of a better way, but then I had had enough. ;)
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-10 02:39 PM
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91. Good one. nt
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-10 01:31 AM
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80. And that is that.
My job here is finished. :)
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 02:56 PM
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2. REC. True. As a matter of fact I expect that shit from Faux. But the Obama
Edited on Wed Jul-21-10 02:58 PM by xultar
administration needs to quit bowing to those fucks.
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 03:05 PM
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28. LOL... I first read your words as....
"administration needs to quit blowing those fucks."

:rofl:
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KansasVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 03:38 PM
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54. At least stop believing them!
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 02:57 PM
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4. You forgot to call the admin "weak".
:spank:
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KansasVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 02:58 PM
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6. I called them stupid on this issue. What would you call them?
Blaming Fox is real easy. Hell, lets do that on all the issues.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 02:59 PM
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8. I blame the people who lied.
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KansasVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 03:00 PM
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12. So if I can just publish a lie, then the Admin is ok if they blindly believe it? Wow, easy job!
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 03:03 PM
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22. You'll need a partisan media outlet in your back pocket first.
It's not easy to do what Faux and Breitbart did.
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KansasVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 03:05 PM
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29. And not difficult not fall for it!! It is not like they have been decent up to this point.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 03:13 PM
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34. Office of the President has its own sources of information & intelligence, which are far
better than anything the public gets through the mainstream media.

The idea that the president's team is dependent on whatever info comes to them through the msm (esp fox), & makes decisions based solely on it, is silly.

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KansasVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 03:16 PM
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35. +1000
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Ignis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 03:31 PM
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52. We can rely on FAUX to lie. That's nothing new.
The troubling thing is the ill-considered response to their lies.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 03:40 PM
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56. The information the WH relied on was from the NAACP, not the media.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 03:46 PM
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58. Doubtful that the WH relies on any one source of information.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 03:49 PM
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61. Probably, hopefully. But in this case they originally listened to the NAACP's opinion, not Faux's.
Period.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 04:09 PM
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64. The Naacp's "opinion," per their own statement, was apparently based on fox news reports
without any independent review of the story:

In a statement released Tuesday afternoon, NAACP CEO Ben Jealous said that the organization had been "snookered" by conservative media:


"With regard to the initial media coverage of the resignation of USDA official Shirley Sherrod, we have come to the conclusion we were snookered by Fox News and Tea Party Activist Andrew Breitbart into believing she had harmed white farmers because of racial bias.

Having reviewed the full tape, spoken to Ms. Sherrod, and most importantly heard the testimony of the white farmers mentioned in this story, we now believe the organization that edited the documents did so with the intention of deceiving millions of Americans."


http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_upshot/20100720/pl_yblog_...

they didn't review tapes or check with the farmers, they just offered a useless "opinion" based on fox news reports? uh-huh, sure.

so such "opinion" is no different from just listening to fox.

i don't believe the naacp actually operates that way, nor do i believe the white house does.

it's a cover story to take the heat off the wh & deflect it to the naacp.
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Celebration Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 03:48 PM
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60. Oh great
So they just do what the NAACP says?

That's comforting.

:sarcasm:
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 03:55 PM
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62. No, that's not what I said, and not what happened.
Do you have a problem with the NAACP and their opinions?
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 03:59 PM
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63. I have a problem with the WH relying on the opinion of any one organization, & I don't believe it
Edited on Wed Jul-21-10 04:06 PM by Hannah Bell
does or did.

nor do i believe that the naacp is so easily "snookered" as this statement would indicate, since its implication is that the naacp relied totally on fox news reports:

In a statement released Tuesday afternoon, NAACP CEO Ben Jealous said that the organization had been "snookered" by conservative media:

"With regard to the initial media coverage of the resignation of USDA official Shirley Sherrod, we have come to the conclusion we were snookered by Fox News and Tea Party Activist Andrew Breitbart into believing she had harmed white farmers because of racial bias.

Having reviewed the full tape, spoken to Ms. Sherrod, and most importantly heard the testimony of the white farmers mentioned in this story, we now believe the organization that edited the documents did so with the intention of deceiving millions of Americans."


http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_upshot/20100720/pl_yblog_...


They gave their opinion to the WH based on fox news reports, & only later reviewed tapes & contacted the white farmers?

sure, that sounds credible.
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whathehell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 03:40 PM
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55. They're terribly "sensitive" to the disapproval of the Right, it seems...Gee, if only
Edited on Wed Jul-21-10 03:41 PM by whathehell
they were that "sensitive" to the opinions of their BASE we might be waaay ahead of the game by now...It's as if they're ashamed to be democrats...It disgusts me. :thumbsdown:
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-10 01:12 PM
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87. In this case they did have something to do with it
Are you letting them off the hook?

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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 03:01 PM
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13. I sure didn't see evidence of any strength or resolve
According to Sherrod Brown's report, she was getting pressure to quit because the story was going to be on Glenn Beck's show that night. Now, a strong administration would shrug and say, "Who gives a flying fuck what Glenn Beck has to say?" But the Obama administration was scared enough about it that they really put the screws to Brown to quit. I don't know if that's "weak," but I sure as shit wouldn't characterize it as "strong."
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 03:06 PM
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30. You are right. They are weak. Omission corrected.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 03:19 PM
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41. Unstrong and weak...
Get your insults straight, please!

:)
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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-10 01:20 PM
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90. LOL You beat me to it. The word is "unstrong".
LOL
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spiritual_gunfighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-10 07:25 AM
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86. Okay I will call them weak then
The Obama administration was way fucking weak on this one!
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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 02:58 PM
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5. This is the last place to defend FOX News
I think the administration should been more careful, but FOX News is to blame for them being so hyper-defensive about everything.
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KansasVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 02:59 PM
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9. Hell, then lets just say Fox news controls everything. Makes an easy excuse!
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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 03:02 PM
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18. Where did I say any of that?
Edited on Wed Jul-21-10 03:53 PM by KingFlorez
Those are your words. You can't absolve FOX News of any involvement in this.
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KansasVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 03:04 PM
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24. Fox News can lie all they want. It is our job not to fall for it.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 03:00 PM
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10. I don't think the OP is defending Faux...just stating a cold hard fact.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 02:58 PM
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 03:00 PM
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11. Breitbart and FAUX NOISE are the manipulators. Gee...who are the manipulatees?
Edited on Wed Jul-21-10 03:01 PM by BrklynLiberal
once again....


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Lil Missy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 03:01 PM
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14. Agreed. White house should be smarter than some jackass on faux news.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 03:01 PM
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15. In an era of rampant incompetence - no one
Ever wants to take reponsibility.

Including this admin.
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 03:01 PM
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16. Obama is an unstrong weakling!!
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KansasVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 03:03 PM
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21. If you are 100% OK with how they handled it then go for it. 100% blind support is a great trait!
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 03:06 PM
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KansasVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 03:17 PM
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36. Wow, clever and mature.
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 03:24 PM
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46. thank you.
:toast:
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KansasVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 03:32 PM
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53. There is a story on Fox News now about Obama being a socialist.....
Maybe you should call the White House about it.
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superduperfarleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 03:04 PM
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26. I'll see your unhinged sputter and raise you this one.
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spoony Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 03:17 PM
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38. Lol
And that one can be entered in a slam poetry contest and read to bongo drums.
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superduperfarleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 03:02 PM
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17. If Bush was "responsible" for the attorney firings, then Obama is "responsible" for this.
At the very least he needs to get control of his administration and make it clear that they are not here to please a constituency (the Fox/Beck/Breitbart crowd) that will hate him, not disagree with policy but actually HATE him, no matter what.
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KansasVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 03:17 PM
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37. Great point!!
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katandmoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 03:02 PM
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19. K&R The administration showed its cowardly ass. It's scared shitless of Fox.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 03:02 PM
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20. "..I welcome their hatred" - a good strategy for this day as well nt
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Better Today Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 03:04 PM
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25. K & R
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 03:05 PM
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27.  Sherrod was "collateral damage" sacrificed for political expediency in this administration.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 03:19 PM
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40. +100
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Xenotime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 03:21 PM
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44. There you go.
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 03:24 PM
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47. ....
:cry: :grr: :cry:
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FarPoint Donating Member (665 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 03:19 PM
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42. I smell a GOP set-up
The Administration fell for it without hesitation.
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KansasVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 03:20 PM
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43. If that is true, then we are really, really stupid!
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 03:23 PM
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45. Even the NAACP admits to getting "snookered" by the right wing liars
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KansasVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 03:30 PM
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51. So the NAACP is stupid also. My god people, why not wait a damn day to decide???
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-10 01:13 PM
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88. You know I bet you'd have fallen for it
If you were in that position. Too easy to say it was obvious from a keyboard, by someone with no responsibility.

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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 03:26 PM
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48. So you are happy stoking the flames and HELP THE RACE BAITING ASSHOLES
doesn't say much for you or the many other DU'ers who fall for the ratfucking republican crap constantly.
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KansasVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 03:29 PM
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49. Wow, are you lame.........
And it does not say much for an administration who would fall for a story from Fox News. You are proud of them for believing the story without doing ANY RESEARCH??? They you must be gullible as hell!
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 03:29 PM
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50. Ah, so Teddy Roosevelt welcomed flame-stoking, eh?
"The President is merely the most important among a large number of public servants. He should be supported or opposed exactly to the degree which is warranted by his good conduct or bad conduct, his efficiency or inefficiency in rendering loyal, able, and disinterested service to the Nation as a whole. Therefore it is absolutely necessary that there should be full liberty to tell the truth about his acts, and this means that it is exactly necessary to blame him when he does wrong as to praise him when he does right. Any other attitude in an American citizen is both base and servile. To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public. Nothing but the truth should be spoken about him or any one else. But it is even more important to tell the truth, pleasant or unpleasant, about him than about any one else."

"Roosevelt in the Kansas City Star", 149
May 7, 1918
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 05:14 PM
Response to Reply #48
66. that whooshing sound you hear...
Edited on Wed Jul-21-10 05:14 PM by frylock
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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 03:41 PM
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57. I think they acted so quickly because...
they have to work harder to prove they are not racist (because of all the tea bagger shit lately). It's the same thing as they say about women and other minorities having to WORK twice as hard to prove they are equal to everyone else. I think they are being hyper sensitive to all the racist criticism and were caught off guard on this.
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KansasVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 03:47 PM
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59. Maybe a good point........
I see what you mean. But I think that waiting a day would not have caused much more damage even if the story was 100% true. This 24 hour news scares them too much. Now it made it much worse by reacting too soon and giving Fox a whole other reason to ridicule us.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 05:51 PM
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69. It would have taken an hour max to do the research.
Edited on Wed Jul-21-10 06:07 PM by glitch
The speech was at the NAACP, they had to have the video and transcript. One call, one file transfer, one reading/viewing. Done, rebuttal. That's even without hearing Sherrod's side.

They jumped because they don't want to make this administration about race. Good idea, but then that makes them extra vulnerable in that area to manipulators like Rove and Breitbart. Hence they will continually be race baiting this admin, it's win-win for them. If Obama does the research and defends Van Jones or Sherrod, he's accused of "favoring" blacks, IOW a racist. Just a "coincidence" that blacks are the ones being attacked.

Solution: all of his administration should know what they are doing and
NOT TAKE THE BAIT

edit: and use these attacks to point out how the far right lies. (ignoring race and turning the issue to all about far right lies. Best part, by defining the far right he can still be chums with the moderate right, should they ever resurface)
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 04:13 PM
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65. If they were "caught off guard", then the "other side" is much better at chess.
Yes, we all knew they would have to work harder.... and if Obama didn't understand that, he had no business running the race.

THAT does NOT excuse this.

Never.
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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 05:58 PM
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70. I don't know if they are better at chess, but we all know they are better at sleaze. How could
the administration know of EVERY tactic they will try, every person they will attack? I agree they should have waited and not taken the word of "the other side" but I cannot see how they could/should know every move they will make.
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 06:06 PM
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71. LOL. This is the THIRD incident with the same M.O.
The ump says, "They're OUT!!"
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-10 01:15 PM
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89. +1
They are super sensitive to exactly this, no wonder it's where they made an error.

It's not that big an error anyway, they fixed it already.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 05:38 PM
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67. k/r
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LAGC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 05:40 PM
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68. K&R
We've got to be better than that.
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LuckyTheDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 06:09 PM
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72. EVERYBODY makes mistakes
How you respond to them is what counts. The administration owned up to its error, apologized and offered to make things right.

Breitbart, on the other hand... not so much...
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KansasVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 11:57 PM
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75. I am saying do not blame the MSM
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jah the baptist Donating Member (329 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 06:11 PM
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73. and then did the right thing...the thing we all wanted
so lets contiue to crap on them because they and not the rw media are the enemy.
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 06:22 PM
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74. Specifically Tom Vilsac (sp?) did
It may never have made it to Obama, if that's who you mean by "this administration".
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-10 12:23 AM
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76. Geithner, Summers, and Rahm have their gigs though
Edited on Thu Jul-22-10 12:25 AM by upi402
Whose side is Obama on?

Does she serve at the pleasure of the President, or Vilsuck?
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lib2DaBone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-10 12:32 AM
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77. After this fiasco.. I think I know where our public Option went....
It went the same place as the re-newal of Glass-Steegal and the Jobs Bill and the end of war in Afghanistan.

I hope we can hold on to our Social Security a little longer....
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mike r Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-10 01:39 AM
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81. Sherrod: the only official ever fired because of the fear that Glenn Beck might go after her
Sherrod may be the only official ever dismissed because of the fear that Fox host Glenn Beck might go after her. As Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack tried to pressure her into resigning, Sherrod says Deputy Under Secretary Cheryl Cook called her Monday to say "do it, because you're going to be on 'Glenn Beck' tonight."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/20...
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pecwae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-10 07:18 AM
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83. Shame to have to point out the obvious.
Thread after thread of celebrating lawsuits against Breitbart and FNC when it would have been more prudent and mature to quietly investigate fully before jumping to conclusions. If the administration hadn't panicked and been so easily manipulated none of this would be happening.
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spiritual_gunfighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-10 07:22 AM
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84. Yep
Fox does what Fox does, that is never going to change. But they way the Obama administration reacts to this is what was the problem. Complete cowardice.
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